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I find it strange that the משנה ברורה’s pesak is a היתר.
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Obviously I agree nothing would beat derech emunah, but have you read the intro to daas notah. The whole point of the work was to clarify all the misquotes of Reb Chaim, and his son went to his father many times to clarify his position. I think it would be the one sefer that is pretty reliable of all the books quoting Reb Chaim. But maybe I’m just being Naive.
I really always find these conversations so disheartening from from both sides. Reb Chaim Kanievsky’s opinion is very clear. It is recorded in numerous letter and seforim that he feels that we should assume the chilazon was nignaz. Daas Noteh was written by Reb Chaim’s son in conversation with Reb Chaim, because there are so many inaccurate quotes in general from Reb Chaim. Unfortunately I don’t know much about you, but to dismiss this as hearsay suggest you are like the vast majority on both sides of the issue; completely and totally biased. The clip shows nothing and is obviously cut up. Why the full clip cannot be shown, add to my frustration.May 23, 2018 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm in reply to: Why do people think they could “trust themselves” with smartphones? #1524991
If the question asked was regarding a phone without a filter, It is a very fair question that I wonder a lot myself. Forget Psak Halacha. I know personally I would stumble a lot (and somewhat have) It is a very disturbing and honest question. Yet the guy next to me who speaks constant lashon harah, davens in twenty minutes and rarely makes it to the beis medrash, has more self control than me. I find it all very confusing.March 8, 2018 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm in reply to: Did Your Children’s Yeshiva or School cancel school today? – It’s Ridiculous! #1485562
Why do you assume schools are closed? Because the administrators want a day off?! It is so easy for people that do not have the responsibility of the children’s LIVES on their hands to pass judgement. I’m sorry you find it”ridiculous” that the powers that be prioritize the responsibility for the safety of over a thousand students to worrying about your inconvenience. Disagree with the decision and think it was safe. I could respect that. But don’t be upset because of your inconvenience.
11-13, and I want team vs team
I don’t care about length
about 20 boys
Jr. High, unlimited budget, no time-frame
I looked through some of the Lakewood papers on line, but didn’t see anything advertising such a thing. Any more help?!!
Health, Thank you for all the help so far.I do not live anywhere near Lakewood, any other ideas?
I think I do. My memory isn’t clear but I think I took a book over 10 years ago, planning to pay for it and never did. Any information would be amazing!
Something like that
DaasYochid, do you have any more information?!
I dont get what you mean. I’m just trying to locate who was s
selling the seforim
Few in europe said “o” they either said oy ei or ow
has anyone confirmed clif bars are just dairy equipment
Crisis of the week. I have no idea what you mean . There is one opinion that holds a halacha then everyone should go that way. . There is another option. Don’t buy one.
According to the 0u standard tevilah wouldn’t help because it doesn’t get the water internally anyway
Chill. I just heard someone I know lost his father in law and i didnt know when walking up to him whether or not to say condolences, I’m sorry about what happened or something else
rabbiofberlin the gemara is clear that only applies to something chaviv and doesnt apply to frequent ?????. You also need at least 10 people listening and that cant happen if people sing according to what im arguing.
WIY i was aware of the mishna berura but i’m just wondering about a real halachik issue
Aposhitayid: Torah Anytime while being an absolutely amazing website will at times also offer shiurim specifically in streaming format not available to download.
Curiosity, I didn’t say they shouldn’t stream, I said that some shiurim are 2 dollars cheaper or free if streamed. Its frustrating that there are speakers I would listen to if I had the Internet, but since I choose not to, I can’t listen to them. Unfortunately I cant’s afford to buy these shiurim. Some of these speakers are on the battlefront against having internet unless absolutely necessary.
Avhaben: Even streams that are easily copied I don’t think making the decision not to to have internet should lead me to ???? of
???? ???? and ?????.
That’s my point The Wolf
That these websites want to be ??? and yet actively encourage me to have a constant internet access. Its very frustrating.
I didn’t ever go through the whole forum and maybe someone raised this topic but something bothers me. Honestly I’m tempted to wear a pair of Techeles in private. (Im not interested in discussing why not in public) But it really seems strange to do such a thing though some people mentioned they do that. A much bigger issue of “getting the ????” of Techeiles is the fact that if you don’t have ????? on your ????? and you could, you really are probably being ???? an ???. (Not to get into all that Lomdus). Well if Im ????? the ????? enough to wear it to maybe get a ???? i better be ready then to put it on all my four cornered garments. Rather I feel it would be a lot less hypocritical to just say I’m following a ??? not to wear it and be done with it.
To me the Rayah is a good proof though I think it was mentioned earlier. Reb Shlomo Miller in the second Teshuva on the topic though mentions a similar proof regarding bentching if one only know the first ????. He then says that it doesn’t prove anything though I don’t really understand the reason he writes.
Rabbi Mordechai Finkelman says to say “In our religion we only touch our own spouses (wife/husband)”
I’m going to stop now my end as I relooked at the ????? of Rabbi Miller and also just saw the second one he wrote for the first time. He addresses these issues and also admits there are many ?????? not like Reb Chaim, he just says not too dismiss it to lightly. The real place to look at this topic in length is the ????? quoted there of the ??? ???? ?????.<http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37145&st=&pgnum=160&hilite=>
I don’t understand the point made about ??? ????. You might not gain from taking a ??? ?????. But you are still obligated to take a ???? ????? so you are still im a ??? of ????
Im going to look over some of the ?????? again, but Im wondering if you believe the underlying reason for all these ????? is ??? ??????? ??????. If on the second day of ??? ???? would one not need to blow ???? according to one opinion. Or second day of ???? not need to take the ?????. I’m not sure yet all the sources say You are ABSOLUTELY ???? to take the ????? in a case of ??? because of ??? ??????? ?????? but as the Mishna Berura says by Shofar It cant hurt because you might be ???? (and i Beg of you not to tell me the same arguement applies to ????? I know, this is not my point)
I don’t understand your proof regarding the Gemara Rosh Hoshanah. you are obligated in the mitzavah and the possibility of fulfilling it trumps the certain Deraban. I pretty sure the fact there is a ????? there is irrelevant to your proof. You understand that according to Reb Chaim EVEN WITHOUT the ????? you would not have to go to the place since there is no ??? ??????? ?????? there. This as I understand it has nothing to with Reb Chaim. If i have ??? if there is a Esrog in a certain place I need to go find out since I might fulfill my mitzvah 100 percent. Please tell me how you are definitely ending up in a never ending circle like I mentioned earlier.
I also can’t understand why I have now twice agreed this probably is not normative halacha and you keep telling me that. I am trying to discuss the Reb Chaim. That’s all. Relax and please try to explain your proof from the Gemara so i can appreciate what you are saying.
The case of tefilin is where the one dropped the ?????? in water and is not sure its ??? the ???? ????? says to still wear it. Please stop quoting cases where you will no longer remain with a ??? (or better said anything to do)
I didn’t mean to get so personal. Sorry. I’ve just seen the Ran Thrown around so many times it was frustrating. Most Reb Chaims are a Mesorah and this one is no different. Any of the Brisker Mishpacha knows it. I can’t help if it has gotten misquoted.
Reb Chaim, as i understand it, is saying that an action that will leave you in the exact place you started is useless and can’t require you to do anything. For example, if its Succos and I have only a fruit that is a ??? ?????, taking it will be of little help. Before I take the fruit I am ???? to take an ????? and after I take the fruit, since there is a ??? ??????? ?????? I’m still obligated to take the fruit. What did I accomplish in taking the fruit and you enter in to a circular world. In the case of Rosh Hashanah In the end of the day you will know if you accomplished the Mitzvah and end the circle. It makes a lot of sence .
With that said I do agree by Tefillin this is certainly not the case.
Also you are confusing two points. There are those that ague one MUST wear ????? because of ??? ???????? ??????. Rabbi Miller is just saying according to Reb Chaim you don’t have to. However all this does is explain why one is Not ???? to wear ?????, there still might be what to gain. If its my only esrog, while not ???? to take it, I still might be ???? the ???? ( I don’t honestly believe that any one that was stranded on a desert Island with only a ??? ????? wouldn’t take it.) And anyways many think there is not much of a ??? as you point out.
I’m sorry you cant find the Reb Chaim. I think Reb Moshe Sternbauch brings it down. It makes total sense you just have a wrong version of it. This is not the Chacham Echad from the Radziner.
Truth be told however the mishna berua by ?????? does disagree and i dont think the Reb Chaim is normative ????. Also the Briskers are the ones that take 20 ???????.
“The gemara in Rosh Hashana is poshut telling us in the maskana of the gemara that safek deoraysa will be mechayev you to go somewhere which is a safek if you will be mekayem a mitzvah, even at teh cost of a vadai drabanan. And see the way the Mishna berura explains it in siman 595. About the ran, there is a lot to sasy about Rabbi Miller’s tayneh, but being that all the other mareh mekomos are clearly applicable I will not elaborate”.
I saw a discussion from 3 months ago about the Reb Chaim that a safek mitzvah is not ????.
This has always been my prime example what happens when not lomdanim get involved with PSAK. They end up embarrassing themselves. Ive seen this Ran etc quoted so often and it is a total error. Nothing to discuss. The briskers have a Mesora that if the fulfilling of a Mitzah one will still remain in a Matzav of Chiyuv it is useless. Therfor if one performs a Mitzvah in a way that he will still have to do it again because of ??? ??????? ?????? then he accomplished nothing. So if you have a ???? that was ??? ???, there is no point in taking it because ??? ??????? will tell you do it again. However if you are ????? if you are ???? in a ???? or could possibly fulfill it for sure (the case of ??? ????) then of course you have to do it (The radziner quotes someone that say you would be ???? but this in NOT the Reb Chaim) The Ran is talking about Bein Hashmeashos which is a ??? whether you are ???? and by taking it you will fulfill that requirement nothing else to do, no different from a tumtum who is ???? I hate to say it, but anyone quoting the Ran either totally missed Reb Chaim or is completely embarrassing himself.
Please just answer my questions. You are so bothered by LEARNING during chazoos hashatz. Is that because the mishna berura says not to do it because others might learn from it. Apparently you refuse to say “not listening” is what is bothering you. It is REALLY STRANGE for someone to have that as a “pet peeve” I will show you many Mishna Beruras that are not followed. Just be honest.
Also the magen avraham is not refering to answering to amein and not having ????? That is a very serious ?????
I don’t want anyone thinking I’m for learning during Chazoret Hashatz. A more appropriate title for this thread is what to do about people that don’t pay attention during chazoras hashatz (no matter what type of activity they are engaged in spacing out, learning or texting etc.) One little piece of advice I can give is that while many find davening from the sefer that brakes up shmonei esrei line by line to cumbersome to use it to follow chozaras hashatz
The vast majority of people anwering amein have no ????? it s better not to say amein at all that not have ?????
This is so ridiculous SOOO many people are against learning and yet I go to any and every shul and 99.999999999999999999999999% of the people are spaced out. Give me a break, like you really care that people are not listening.
How many people pick up sefer thinking this is a mitzvah. People are interested in what seforim. SHOW ME A SINGLE PERSON THAT PICKS UP A SEFER DURING CHOZARAS HASHATZ That thinks he is doing a mitzavah
Oh by the way Reb chaim kanievski paskens that technically if one misses the beginning of chozres Hashatz there is no inyan to listen to the rest. AND saying Amein w/o kevanah is a real averia is for sure worse then learning and not saying amein at all.
Almost every person I see spaces out instead of learn. Show me a single source that says it is better then space out then learn (it says not to learn because others might learn from you im talking about intrinsically i have a feeling most people in this post are not concerned bout this halacha) So why not start about a post about all the people that space out
i agree zeeskite however being dan lchaf zechus tape characters is a HUGE machlokes. Also Dr middos really does mellow out in the last tape (he sounds like he gained 20 years experience in just a week) really very inspiring how much mussar could help
zeeskite i think your kind of thinking is extremely skewed. If it wasn’t for shnooky the midos machine would still be unplugged, yet the only way shnooky prevailed was with interrupting dr midos when he was ignoring him, and than after getting snapped at informing dr middos with a shaky voice that the machine was unplugged. (Frankly i have a different theory why dr middos keep the settings for children only)
anytopic really but chumash hashkafa is prefered. I Meant the speker should say over a lot of sources. I find the vast majority of speakers have a few sources and repeat themselves many times. Rav Schecter is close to what I Like, though i find im ussually looking for some more varied sources and more depth