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Chaim87 / 1a2b3c: For Rav Wolfson’s position on Zionism, listen to the recording titled “Rav Moshe Wolfson: Korach was a Zionist”, which audio is available under that title on youtube.
Chabad Shlucha: Who is this mysterious person who physically abused you to the brink of death? Was it some anti-feminist upset at your loud and proud public expressions of being a militant feminist?
Catch Yourself: Rav Samson Raphael Hirsch was explicitly and expressly anti-Zionist.
Lmaanachai: The problem here isn’t the diagnosis; the problem is the proposed solution. Urging girls to wait and get married older is a non-starter. It goes against Halacha and Yiddishkeit.
And it goes against the interest of each yochid, each young Bas Yisroel. If an individual girl delays trying to get married, she significantly increases the likelihood of making herself into the victim who eventually won’t be able to find anyone to marry.
The only real solution is to encourage the boys to marry younger. They should start considering shidduchim, at the latest, at ages 17, 18, or 19. Hopefully they can be married by time they’re 18 to 21.
The other potential solution, and you’re going to either laugh (like Menachem already did above) or scream (like Gadolhadofi is going to as soon as he reads this), is “plural marriage” (a/k/a polygamy). Non-Ashkenazim (Sefardim, Teimanim, Mizrachim, and any other non-Ashkenazim) can do so immediately. Ashkenazim, of course, have the Cherem. But Rabbeinu Gershom put an expiration date on it — which has passed already. Now, the later Rabbonim decided to extend it past its original expiration date. But just like the Rabbonim extended it then, the Rabbonim can end it now, if they today decide that Klal Yisroel needs plural marriage for our benefit.
And as the shidduch crisis of there being much more girls than boys in the shidduch parsha makes clear, if a small minority of the fewer boys took two wives instead of just one, it would quickly resolve this shidduch problem for the girls.
SB613: Your point does have some logic but it isn’t persuasive since halacha itself says, both, to get married younger as well as to wait for an older sibling. Waiting for an older sibling isn’t a newfangled svara; it is brought down in the seforim hakedoshim. Halacha doesn’t say to get married older for societal reasons. (In fact, as we acknowledged, halacha says to get married younger.)
(As an aside, it is also interesting to observe that it is usually the same people who will push for getting married older that will also push for not waiting for an older sibling.)
Lmaanachai: How are you going to draw a line between who is “Chasidish” and who is “Litvish”? Many many people don’t neatly fit into only one category. For example, those who are sometimes called “Heimish” could be more Chasidish leaning or more Litvish leaning, but not really either. There’s the Oberlanders, who most are more Chasidish leaning, but not Chasidish and not Litvish. They might even daven Nusach Ashkenaz while wearing an up-hat (or even a shtreimal). The Yekkes are neither Litvish nor Chasidish. Same with the Sefardic. And Teimanim. And Mizrachim. And what about the Yeshivish? A large portion, perhaps even a majority, shtam from Hungarian or Polish or other non-Litvish backgrounds.
When you have young girls getting engaged, if your proposal became reality, they’ll simply self-identify as non-Litvish.
My contention is that there’s no real way to implement this idea. If it were tried to be implemented, almost anyone who wanted to get around it would have so many loopholes to blast through.
And there will be wedding halls that will cater to young Kallahs, without them penalizing them, monetarily or otherwise.
Yes, this website (WordPress for the main site and bbPress for the CR) is as buggy as they get.
I’ve had the same experience for the last few months. Duvi’s probably did some “update” around that time.
Correct me if I’m mistaken, but… I don’t think Reb Wolf ever stopped talking during leining!
There’s no way to enforce this idea. The wedding halls won’t go along, because (among other reasons, one reason being the) unless *every* hall agreed then no hall will agree. And every hall will not agree. Chasidim, by design, get married at ages 17, 18, 19 etc. And the Chasidish halls will never agree. And they’ll be other halls, not Chasidish, that will choose to profit rather than agree, by getting more business by not having this rule.
And, if not, people will open new halls that don’t have the rule. And families with a young engaged daughter will find somewhere else to have the Chasuna. Even at a non-traditional hall.
Besides, Chazal suggest getting married by age 18, at the latest.
I vote with Chazal.
Instead of the idea in the OP, try to encourage the young men to get married earlier, instead of them waiting until 22 or 23.
Mishpacha and Ami are both left-wing rags; though Ami is worse.
I didn’t read the follow up comments to see if the following point was made yet, but the Halacha of dina demalchusa dina does NOT apply to these cases, since these people do not live in the US. Therefore US laws aren’t halachicly binding upon them.
Menachem Shmei:
I seem to recall that CS has posted on this forum (and I’ve seen similar comments by other Lubavitchers elsewhere, in case I’m misremembering regarding CS), people who were born after the Lubavitcher Rebbe was niftar, saying that had some sort of big/serious shaila and they (somehow) asked the Rebbe what to do, and the Rebbe answered him/her to do X, Y and Z.
That’s what I’m trying to understand.
CS: I don’t quite understand if you have a shaila of, say, should I marry this person, or which Yeshiva should I send my son to, or how should I resolve a fight with my neighbor, or should I dedicate my life to Torah exclusively or should I also take a job, or is this particular job offer the proper hashkafa and tznius (and should I accept it), or how should I enforce tznius standards in my family, etc.
How does the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt’l answer those questions for you when you ask him shailas similar to the above examples.
Maybe Yeshivos ban electric scooters.
Many Yeshivos ban all electric scooters.
CS:
How do you communicate with your Rebbe? How does the Lubavitcher Rebbe answer your personal questions and advise you on how to conduct yourself on very specific personal issues and questions you have on what to do?
Rabbi Christine McDaniels.
“this geula is not just for Lubavitchers by Lubavitch, but here for the average joe.”
CS: Do you mean, by this, that the average Joe is on a lower level than Lubavitchers? (But even so, they’ll still get the geula.)
Otherwise, why did you find it necessary to point out that non-Lubavitchers will get the geula?
CS:
Do you have any response to my follow up question (or not)?
CS:
As you openly admit, above, that you would consider it an illegitimate and invalid position if any other Yid held that their Rebbe or Rov or Rosh Yeshiva (whether currently among the living or not) is Moshiach, why then are you upset or disappointed or angry when others consider who you believe to be Moshiach to be an illegitimate and invalid position?
You have four full years to let out your hate on Trump.
No need to let it out all at once.
Take it one day at a time. That’ll way you can split it up 365×4.
Can I give you kvittelech?
Do you consider another Yid who believes that the Bobover Rebbe is Moshiach or that Rav Shach is Moshiach or that Rav Malkiel Kotler is Moshiach, to be as legitimate and valid a position as a Lubavitcher’s belief that the Lubavitch Rebbe is Moshiach?
The Internet and its anonymous amaratzim has become the go-to place for answers regarding chinuch?
SR: People *do* avoid the hour for making a Chupa.
Based on the secular system of counting hours/time or based on the Torah system of counting hours/time?
John Kennedy and Bill Clinton (especially Clinton the rapist) were much worse. Hopefully anyone here would have voted for Richard Nixon, George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole, if you were eligible to vote in those elections. And not have voted for Hillary the rapist enabler and defender.
B”H the Venezuala-style political persecution, lawfare and witch hunt came crashing down on the heads of the evil Democrats who attempted to use the Justice system for their political benefit. With the American People wisely giving them the biggest potch in political history with the amazing historic greatest comeback in American political history of President Donald J. Trump, an Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence who clearly has the Ribono Shel Olam’s support, being re-elected for the first time in over 150 years in a non-consecutive term, only the second time this happened in American history.
This second Trump Administration will be the most powerful second presidential administration in American political history, with President Trump having had an extra four year interlude to fully prepare all the things he will do in his second administration.
He’s essentially taken over as soon as the election was over, even before Biden was taken out by his old age political operatives, with world leaders over the last month plus already dealing with President Trump instead of with the irrelevant Biden.
G-d Bless America!
Daas, I need your new address in Canada.
Mods, please move this thread to category DECAFFEINATED. Thank you
Neville: You shouldn’t assume just because “people use it” that it is therefore okay for us to use the yearly numbering system. (Forget about the AD/CE question altogether.)
Many frum Yidden will *not* use the years counting from the Christian Avoda Zora. (Even if it is inaccurate by a few years, that’s what it tries to honor by counting from.)
Reb Eliezer: The thread is probably not in the category “Decaffeinated Coffee”, so you don’t see it on the main page.
Schnitzel: It would be better for you to disregard the so-called year count of 2024/2025 and let January 1 be more meaningful, than for you to give any credence to the yearly numbering system of 2024/2025, which was setup to count the years since the Christian Avoda Zora leader they worship, but disregard the date of January 1 — which is far far less problematic than the year count.
B”H, it’s always a pleasure meeting a fellow Jewish Supremacist who isn’t afraid to point out the fact that we are incomparably far better than them.
Dr Pepper: I’m holding out for squeak to come out of his cave on the Julian nittel.
Soon it’ll be Zos Chanukah and we will, once again, be celebrating our own modern day Zos Chanukah miracle of the pidyon shvuyim release of Reb Shalom Mordechai.
You’re writing it yourself?
Unless I’m mistaken, I think OpenDNS can easily be evaded by any user switching to 8.8.8.8 (or similar).
Chaim: It was mentioned above that there doesn’t exist any effective free filter. That being the case, it would seem impossible to provide something for free if it doesn’t exist.
The reason for *all* anti-semitism, whether Christian, Muslim or left-wing anti-semitism is very clear. It is because we are in galus. And until we leave golus with Moshiach, it will continue.
That being said, Christian and European anti-semitism has been far far worse and much much much more violent and spilled far far far more Jewish blood than Muslim or Arabic anti-semitism, by a very very long-shot.
The numbers do not lie.
Whereas Jews were constantly facing Crusades, burning of the Talmud, blood libels, black death scapegoating, pograms, Tach V’Tat, numerous expulsions (England, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Hungary, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, etc.), Inquisitions, Dreyfus and most recently, and notoriously, the Holocaust of 6 million, the Jews in the Arabic and Muslim lands, by comparison (and that is key) were living mostly peacefully and safely despite sporadic exceptions.
L95: Rav Schach *never* said anyone who isn’t in learning should join the Israeli army. He never said anything remotely close to advocating for *anyone* to enlist.