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takah is a tziyoni. He doesn’t like old fashioned Yiddishkeit.

Yseribus: What is your day to day function employed as a computer scientist?

Yseribus: What is your line of work and does your type of position generally earn significantly more than a computer programmer?

Rav Matisyahu Salomon shlita said that the Kollel guys with wives who graduated college and are employed in the outside world are generally the first ones to leave Kollel.

Reb Dorah:

That’s the second “rare agreement” you’ve had with me in two days.

I’m starting to detect a trend. I always knew that with enough effort on my part even you’d start coming around.

Winning one heart at a time…

“If your worried about women going out, kol kevuda…”

N0: Why “If”? Kol Kevuda is specifically cited in Shulchan Aruch (and Rambam) as actual Halacha. It’s a mandatory and obligatory part of Jewish life.

N0m: Neither of them worked on Wall Street.

The Gemorah says Michal bas Shaul Hamelech wore Tefilin. Some also say that Rashi’s daughters wore Tefilin and that Chana Rochel Schumacher of Ludmir wore Tefilin. Should we introduce Tefilin into our Bais Yaakov’s?

Dr. Pepper, I’m not an expert on this issue, but is the public school systems in suburbia as bad as those in the major cities? I somehow got the impression that often well to do parents move to towns known to have decent to good (or better) public schools that are in another league compared to major cities.

Dear N0: You and yseribus are changing the goal line of this train of thought. The only point relevant here is that this third-world style persecution pioneered by those in power in Venezuela, Russia, Cuba, China and Iran and picked up by the Democrats in power in the US attempting to use government power to “prosecute” their political enemy based on a novel legal theory for an act that occurred 7 years ago and the DA in office at the time didn’t prosecute and the newly elected Democrat hack DA also decided wasn’t prosecution material, despite having overtly campaigned for the office of DA promising to persecute his party’s political enemy, until his far left woke constituency demanded he reverse his decision not to prosecute, to which he complied.

I hear that Turkish Airlines is quite popular.

Dear N0,

No. This discussed hatred of Trump didn’t exist by all these folks prior to Trump entering politics.

Midwest: Where did you hear that’s the reason they closed?

mentsch1: The OP’s underlying point, as has been for the past several years in his comments, is that girls’ moms’ are unfairly relying on shidduch references to reject a first date with him.

Yseribus: There’s no way to avoid the rampant pritzus on any American college campus.

commonsaychel: You’re sure that isn’t a tzeilim on your necklace??

AAQ: It’s been almost unheard of, even historically, for a rabbi to need approval by the local government to be a rabbi.

Amil, Ari’s been posting here for years how terrible the girls’ mothers’ are in rejecting dates with him for all kinds of illegitimate reasons.

Get refusal can be legitimate or illegitimate, depending on the circumstances and ruling of Beis Din. By default, a husband is under no obligation to give a Get even if asked for one. Unless, that is, he committed a wrong proven in Beis Din where Beis Din rules that wrong obligates him per Halacha to give a Get. But there’s a only a small set of circumstances under Halacha that obligate giving a Get against his will. Absent those conditions it is within his rights to decide to decline a request for a Get.

Mentsch1: That’s no different than if a college student is accused of being a drug dealer based on non-solid circumstancial evidence, during the course which he admitted to stealing a pen, but was convicted perhaps wrongly of the drug dealing and sentenced to 25 years, and you’re okay with that since he stole a pen anyways.

Mentsch1: Can you name that bakery?

CTL: The DA in Manhattan organizing this political persecution of his political enemy, much the same way they do in Venezuela, Russia, Cuba, and Iran, is an elected position. And Bragg is a Democrat political hack who made political promises during his election for DA on who he will prosecute and who not.

AAQ: False. They are claiming that the mesorah is to be just as educated today as we were 100 years ago, 250 years ago and 1,000 years ago. None of those periods included a secular studies curriculum for the masses of bochorim. It did include a highly rigorous Biblical and Talmudical curriculum. That, both then and now, is far from being your characterization of “willfully ignorant”. It is only your ideology that all our zeidas were “willfully ignorant”, and that only when we came off the boat to America and adhered to secular mandates on what to teach that Klal Yisroel became less ignorant than our forefathers.

Amir: Even those that learned a trade at a young age (which was NOT a majority at the age you cited) never stopped Limud Torah. Indeed, Limud Torah has been a lifetime commitment of Yidden throughout Jewish history.

Yseribus: Are you trying to claim that in the pre-Holocaust era it was common for Mesivtas in Europe to offer a secular studies curriculum that most bochorim attended?

“That’s what I paid total.”

How long ago?

Yseribus: Why are you limiting your view to the post-Holocaust era? The pre-Holocaust era is much longer and more important to authentic Yiddishkeit. In the pre-Holocaust era in Europe secular studies was by far the exception by Chareidim, both Litvish and Chasidish. In fact, secular studies was especially rare pre-WWI and still by far the exception pre-WWII.