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The anti-Zionists posters are the *only* Jews. The Zionist apikorsus spewed is anti-Jewish are certainly from either Goyim or outright heretics.
DaMoshe/ZSK: My message wasn’t addressed to either of you, as I’ve done you no wrongs (real or even perceived). No need to flatter yourselves.
Asking mechila for any real or perceived slights or misunderstanding or whatever anyone may have been hurt from by me.
I am mochel those who feel they need or wish it, whether necessary or not.
Yes.
The Zionist Army isn’t worthy of them. They are opposed up Znus, whereas the IDF values Znus and engages in it in a widespread manner.
Maran R’ Shteinman Tells Yeshiva Student To ‘Go To India’ Instead Of IDF
Yeshiva student visited with HaGaon HaRav Aaron Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlita seeking the Gadol Hador’s advice as he feels he can no longer remain in beis medrash, lacking fulfillment from his learning as he explained his situation. According to a Kikar Shabbat report, the young man asked what his next step in life should be, explaining to the rav he is considering enlistment into the IDF as an option.
The rav took the young man by surprise to put it mildly, instructing him “travel to India” in response to his thoughts of joining the IDF.
ubiq — Furthermore, in practice, like most things, the vast majority of Torah observant Klal Yisroel absolutely does follow Rav Moshe on this. Even the Young Israel shuls that used to have an open parking lot on Shabbos have all long closed them. There was one Young Israel in Las Vegas that was at one point the last Young Israel in the country that had it.
None2.0: Jews are obligated to censor themselves. And to censor others who fail to censor themselves.
At least if you’re an Orthodox Torah-observant Jew.
Yankel: All those Arab behaviors you’re describing started after that advent of Zionism and the Zionist agitation to take over political control of Palestine.
ubiq: Do you pull this stuff out of a hat or simply make it up as you go along?
Rav Shlomo Zalman does NOT permit it whatsoever. All he permits is inviting someone on Shabbos IF you offer him a place to sleep so that he doesn’t have to be Mechallel Shabbos to come. He does NOT permit renting a parking lot so people can drive there on Shabbos, like AAQ and his father wanted.
Do you really fail to see the huge, tremendous and significant difference?
And Rav Ahron Leib holds exactly as Rav Moshe.
pekak: There’s much much less people who speak Yiddish who would post shmutz than there are such people who speak English.
Dr. Pepper: Are you volunteering to code the forum to make that work? 😀
AAQ: It is unquestionably a million times better to not go to Shul on Shabbos than to be Mechallel Shabbos by driving to Shul.
The idea that “one is a Jew in their heart” comes straight from the Reform/Conservative playbook. You just gotta be a Jew in your heart, a mentsch, while you eat your pork and drive to synagogue twice a year on R”H and Y”K, you are better than anyone who keeps the 613 Mitzvos that you violate.
Rocky:
What you just suggested is, effectively, that if 50% – 70% of IDF enlistees who join the Zionist Army while religious end up being irreligious upon their discharge from the IDF, that if no official scientific study documenting this was that conducted, then we should all bury our heads in the sand and ignore this phenomenon and simply let it go on producing more and more and more irreligious people out of formerly observant Jews — because, after all, no scientific study was ever conducted.
There’s never been a scientific study proving that religious people who started engaging in znus became OTD; so Rocky will argue that “it would seem anyone who makes a speculative statement such as “50%-70% of frum boys go off the derech due to engaging in znus, is using made-up statistics and should be condemned for putting such an idea in people’s minds.”
It seems everyone has a different definition of what being a “Harry” means.
pekak: A system like that can easily be abused by creating on-demand throwaway/burner logins just to post shmutz.
ChiefShmerel: I’m born and bred Yeshivish and I first heard the term in the coffee room here (years ago). I don’t ever remember hearing it used in real life.
Being an Oved Hashem with good Middos is exquisitely describing and impeccably depicting being Yeshivish. It’s virtually synonymous.
Simcha: Your poisoned into thinking that Daati Leumi and Modern Orthodox are just normal variations of Judaism or simply another shitta, like Beis Shamai v Beis Hillel or Rav Yisroel Salanter v Rav Chaim Ozer. But that is far from the case. DL and MO, while certainly not open apikorsos ( are at its core identifying “cause célèbre” deviations from normative Judaism.
My earlier point was not every so-called shitta is legitimate. Just like Conservative and Reform aren’t legitimate shittas, so, too, Zionism isn’t a legitimate shitta. I wasn’t comparing DL to Conservative/Reform; I was pointing out by example that not ever shitta is legit.
Very simple. Normal people don’t use the term Harry. It’s used by people who think highly of themselves and consider themselves to be big shots. And it isn’t used that often in common usage. And when it is, it isn’t necessarily only used regarding newly Yeshivish.
In short, it isn’t justifiable; and it isn’t common.
Simcha613: Do you envy the din vecheshbon of someone who can be Motzi la’az so publicly on the entire Masorti/Conservative/Reform tzibur, including rabbanim, dayanim, and talmidei chachanim?
Do you hope they are able to do teshuva before that time comes, but considering the amount of genuine mechila they will need, it’s will be a monumental achievement?
I’ll tell you one thing; better a three day lag due to the limitations of the moderators, than a completely uncensored forum where everything is immediately posted.
Perfect.
He writes “he should
shout out to HaKadosh Baruch Hu”.He does NOT write that he should wage a war against the Arabs to take the land.
He writes to daven. Not to fight. He writes ask Hashem to intervene. He does not write that man should take the matter into his own physical hands.
Thank you for sharing this important point.
Ysiegel:
I’d be very interested in hearing the rest of your take.
Thank you
LuckyStrike: The figures you quoted for the IDF OTD rate is an underestimate. The correct figure is r’l higher.
What’s a “Chareidi Godol”? That’s the same thing as referring to a “Jewish Godol”. Both are redundant, as there’s no other kind of Godol.