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ujmParticipantSome of the Gedolim agree to paying lip service to “quotas” which are tacitly understood to be filled mainly by shababniks, OTD, Chardakim, etc. who “are anyway being mechalel Shabbos and doing issurei kares”… (It is known in the Chareidi world who said that.) Others disagree even with that. There is a difference between “not learning” and “mechalel Shabbos” (“Issurei kares” means having a GF if you didn’t understand.)
It’s hardly a secret that was said by HaGaon HaRav Ahron Leib Shteinman. It was widely and publicly reported at the time:
Recently Released Letter By Maran HaRav SHteinman To Hagon HaRav Don Segal Regarding Nachal Charedi
ujmParticipantYYA: Every secular, Reform and Conservative Jew, virtually anywhere in the world, also, had frum great grandparents, not too long ago.
ujmParticipantEvalimoshavlo: Israel is part of Golus. You can’t leave Golus before Moshiach comes.
ujmParticipantanonymous Goy: Do you eat chazer?
ujmParticipantChizuk? Don’t worry; you’re in the Five Towns. When Mamdani rounds up the Jews to put them into concentration camps, he won’t be able to reach you.
ujmParticipantujmParticipantmdd, like YYA pointed out to you — Satmar (and Brisk, Toldos Ahron, the Eidah HaChareidus and a number of others) never accepted Israeli government funding, ever, to begin with. Since 1948. And they are all still around. And thriving.
If the Yeshiva velt, the Litvaks, other Chasidim, etc need to give up every penny of Israeli government funding to keep the government out of our business and keep us our of their treife army, we’ll all give up every penny from their government and still stay far far away from the tuma army.
ujmParticipantI do a write in vote for any office that there’s no Republican or Conservative candidate. (With a tiny number of exceptions, sometimes.)
ujmParticipantmdd1: I would like to hear your opinion on the question of should shvach bochorim be completely and entirely exempt from army service, given the fact of how so so many shvach bochorim enlist in the IDF while observant but by time they’re discharged from service they’re frei.
Yes or no, Reb mdd?
November 4, 2025 11:41 am at 11:41 am in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2467826ujmParticipantYaakov: I’m very aware of the history. And the NK was quite “radical” (in the sense how hamon hoam defines radical in these regards) under the leadership of Rav Amrom. It didn’t suddently flip within five years after Rav Amrom withdrew from the leadership. There are quite the stories of Rav Amrom himself.
Btw, if you search the UN website you can find documents from the NK petitioning the UN in the 1950s to take away Israeli sovereignty and place the Holy Land under international control and UN protectorate.
ujmParticipantDemocracy is not a Jewish concept. Judaism supports a monarchy that’s a Jewish theocracy.
ujmParticipantujmParticipantThe statistics I’ve seen was around the 50% mark as the figure of RZ/DL enlistees in the IDF that come out frei.
November 3, 2025 10:07 am at 10:07 am in reply to: Capitalism, Socialism, and the New York Election #2467069ujmParticipantYou should submit this as your thesis for your Master’s.
ujmParticipantYYA: Actually it very much makes sense.
Firstly, though, the Holy Roman Empire (962-1806) and the Deutsches Reich (1871–1918) and even the Weimar Republic (1919–1933) all used the name Reich as part of their official names of the country before the Nazis Third Reich.
It makes sense here given the facts that the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis during the Holocaust period. And given the facts that Zionists today persecute Torah Jewry.
I’m not sure why you brought up Oestreich; that is a reference to the name of Austria.
November 3, 2025 10:07 am at 10:07 am in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2467067ujmParticipantYYA: As I’ve pointed out multiple times already, the Neteurei Karta in the times of Rav Amrom Blau ztvkl was very “radical” and kanoish, already. It didn’t happen only after he passed away.
How, exactly, is today’s NK any more radical than Rav Blau’s NK that (to take one of numerous examples) protested together with Yasser Arafat’s PLO against Israel in front of the UN? That occurred during the lifetimes of both Rav Blau and the Steipler Gaon. (And I refer you back to the OP of this thread regarding how the Steipler described the NK.)
ujmParticipantAAQ: RJBS was never a member of the Moetzes.
ujmParticipantIt is absolutely legitimate — and even mandatory — for a Rov to unequivocally state that a certain person in an apikorus, if he believes that is to be the case. That isn’t an ad hominem; it is simply a religious obligation to publicize such a truth. Even a neutral third party would need to admit he has the right to express that sincerely held opinion.
ujmParticipantNow, if we can only get Sam2 to show his face again…
November 2, 2025 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2466820ujmParticipantYankel: Why would the Steipler Gaon specifically and directly and explicitly refer to the Neteurei Karta if he really meant, as you claim, the Eidah HaChareidus? That makes as little sense as claiming he really meant Agudas Yisroel.
Neteurei Karta isn’t some kind of generic name for tzadikim. It’s referring to discuss tzadikim.
ujmParticipantAAQ: “Why do people who do not like the government and the army insist on living under their protection?”
How many times must it be repeated to you, to get it into your thick skull, that every Jew has a G-d given right to live in Eretz Yisroel, regardless of which evil Nazi like government happens to be controlling the area, at any given time.
They never asked for their protection. They were fine with the Ottoman and the British. The Zionists ruled up the Arab and Muslim billion peoples by threatening to seize Eretz Yisroel, thereby having created, already, nearly a century of endless war and terrorism that didn’t exist in Eretz Yisroel before Zionism.
That’s before even (and not even needing to) getting into the fact that the frum Jews lived in Eretz Yisroel before the Zionists and even before the Zionists ever even formed their anti-Torah anti-Jewish ideology.
ujmParticipantmdd1, what about the many many many many who go in shvach and come out frei? Or who go in shtark and come out shvach? Or who go in shtark and come out frei?
Are you in favor of granting an exemption from serving in the army to anyone and everyone who is shvach?
November 2, 2025 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2466477ujmParticipantYYA: What on earth are you ranting about? I’m not NK nor do I necessarily subscribe to their shitta. I have my own Rabbonim shlit”a and follow my minhagim and shittos based on their instructions. That being said, the NK does have rabbonim. I know the Kasho Rov ztvk’l, who was only niftar very recently, was one of their Rabbonim.
Why don’t YOU here and now share with us which alleged sources YOU are aware of, as you claim, WRT the shittos of the Steipler and the Chazon Ish regarding the Neteurei Karta and HaRav Amrom Blau ztvkl. And name names as you demanded of me, rather than anonymous babble. And specifically what they actually said.
ujmParticipantujmParticipantOctober 30, 2025 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2465843ujmParticipantsomejewiknow: Absolutely correct. That’s exactly the point I’m trying to convey. Thank you for putting it very succinctly.
Yaakov Yosef A: You’re familiar with all the talmidim? Two are Reb Moshe Cohen and Reb Yitzchok Katz.
ujmParticipantujmParticipantmdd1, I personally know a man who bit a dog.
It happens.
ujmParticipantujmParticipantujmParticipantsam4321, welcome back. Looooong time no see.
October 29, 2025 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2465542ujmParticipantYaakov: I’ve already asked talmidim of the Steipler Gaon. And every one I’ve asked agreed with every point I made in this thread regarding the Steipler and his love and full support of the Neteurei Karta.
ujmParticipantSimcha: The Zionists army deserves no hakoros hatov whatsoever. The Zionists triggered the last 75+ years of constant and endless wars and terrorism. They set the bed. Now they want those who aren’t responsible for their terrible problems to fix it for them. Let them fix it themselves.
ujmParticipantHow is wearing a lace shaitel any different than wearing a top that is designed to look like it’s your actual cleavage and chest, looking like you aren’t wearing any top at all?
ujmParticipantOctober 29, 2025 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2464618ujmParticipantYaakov: You’re missing the point. I’m not saying the Steipler supported protesting together with Goyim against Israel. My guess (I’m not certain) is that he was against that idea. But what I am saying is that, despite the Steipler possibly being against this idea or that action that the Neteurei Karta might have felt (based on the Rabbonim that HaRav Amrom Blau ztvkl consulted) was the proper approach (therefore disagreeing on a certain point with the Steipler), nevertheless the Steipler clearly believed that on the balance of things, despite any disagreement on more minor issues, that the Neteurei Karta were great tzadikim that Klal Yisroel needed and benefited from, and that broadcast to the world that Torah Jewry is diametrically opposed to Zionism.
ujmParticipantYaakov Yosef A:
“It’s just that the Chareidim can’t say out loud that they won’t serve altogether”
Why can’t the Chareidim say that out loud?
ujmParticipantThe so-called “Hareidi units” of the Zionist Army is 95% dati leumi and 5% OTD Hareidim.
October 28, 2025 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2464302ujmParticipantYankel: You lost your bet before you even made it.
ujmParticipantujmParticipantOctober 28, 2025 10:12 am at 10:12 am in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2464037ujmParticipantYaakov: You must’ve missed my post on the previous page of this thread where I pointed out that the Neteurei Karta — in the time of the Steipler Gaon — joined a protest with the Palestinian Liberation Organization headed by Yasser Arafat — at the United Nations.
And — yet — the Steipler Gaon wrote what he wrote, in high praise of the Neteurei Karta, despite that fact.
The Neteurei Karta in the time of the Steipler Gaon was just as kanoish as they are today.
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