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I have the feeling that several of you are in the UK where the system is different (correct me if I’m wrong). In the U.S., most midwives are in practice with OBs, who are supportive of these midwives, otherwise they would not employ them. The midwives who would attend a planned homebirth are not the type who would even want to work with OBs. What sometimes happens is, a woman is planning on using a homebirth midwife, who isn’t even welcome in the hospital, and so the mother also has an OB who she goes to for monthly checkups.
One day the OB gets a phone call that oops!, the woman gave birth at home, because she was just laboring her heart out at home and suddenly things “were going too fast and there wasn’t time to get to the hospital”. But if things seem to be heading south at home, they will transfer to the hospital the OB practices at, with the homebirth midwife along as a “friend” or “doula”. (Which she would certainly be qualified to do anyway) The mother doesn’t really care if “her” OB is the one on call, because she is only there because she needs the services of the hospital.
The philosophy is like, you don’t need a plastic surgeon when a bandaid will do.
Love my Toyota Sienna! Runs great even when we neglect to keep up on maintenance. Would you like to buy it?
Here’s the bottom line. They crunched numbers from seven studies:
Neonatal mortality rate:
Planned home births Planned hospital births
32/16,500 (0.20) 32/33,302 (0.09) All
23/15,633 (0.15) 14/31,999 (0.04) Nonanomalous
Statistically, .15 (one and one half percent) is three+ times higher than .04 (four tenths of a percent).
“Conclusion: Less medical intervention during planned home birth is associated with a tripling of the neonatal mortality rate.”
So maybe they are saying that that more medical intervention during planned homebirth is better?
Their conclusion is vague and unclear but serves the purposes of the trade organization’s publication.
They have also distorted studies on VBAC in the past. I’m not convinced.
How about finding some nice investment properties in Gaza and the West Bank?
TMB=stalker
Well, feh. I guess my satire went over like a lead balloon…
In Spain it stays mainly on the plain.
Health: she was not bedridden until she fell and was admitted to the hospital.
She was also being transported every two weeks to a wound care clinic. It cost hundreds of dollars more to transport her on a stretcher than a wheelchair, so until the end she being transported in a wheelchair. I don’t know why they couldn’t provide this care in the hospital.
I don’t know why my relatives made the decisions they did, and I did not learn of most of this until the end. The proceeds of the sale of her house ended up all going to the state anyway to reimburse for her care, so they should have just made her as comfortable as possible while she was alive. Hindsight being 20/20 and all… Better to suffer here than in the World to Come, so Baruch Hashem she is not suffering anymore…
Once we were walking to shul and three very cute furry puppies came charging out of a house toward us. My 3 y.o. son freaked out and ran across the street. It was a whole minute until a car came by, but I was shaken to the core. When my husband and I were done blaming each other for not having a hold of him, we started training our kids to run to US when they are scared, instead of running away, and then we trained ourselves to always know who is responsible for who (and to have their hand firmly if inclined to run away).
Indeed, they did knock my mother out and drag me out with forceps.
My grandmother a”h fell at home but never made it to rehab because she developed an infection in the hospital from a bedsore so big it exposed her tailbone. Every time we said we wanted to talk to a specific doctor, she got very agitated and said, no, no, I don’t want to cause any trouble. An aunt who has worked in a nursing home for decades said, “once (bedsores) get that big, they don’t recover” and she was right. My grandmother died there because of neglect (and possibly abuse at the hands of one doctor). I lived hundreds of miles away at the time and was crushed that family kept most of this from me until the end.
My son was in the NICU for days because of my OB’s physical abuse during the c-section. Years later, my son has developmental issues, and of course I can’t prove that the OB caused them, but I’ll never know for sure that he didn’t, either.
Health, I don’t hold you personally responsible for these things and I don’t think you should feel responsible for defending the whole health care profession. Iy”H you will be a fine (whatever it is you’re studying for). It can be said that there are irresponsible patients and incompetent health care providers, but they are not the majority by any stretch and we’d like to think that they do the best they can with the information they have. Each patient is different with fears that influence the decisions that they make. The health care provider’s challenge is to learn their profession cold but then be able to apply their knowledge to each patient’s different situation. I doubt I’m saying anything you don’t know, but maybe someone else will read this and gain from it.
So what should a ger do, who learned to daven in a shul that was founded by conservative Hungarians 100+ years ago but is now composed of MO Ashkenazim who daven in nusach Sefard, and who has since moved to a Yeshivish community?
TTFN: Tigger
I don’t know, but after the first few it just opened up the door to ROTFLMTOWTIME…
(with tears in my eyes)
No way, Jose.
FWIW, I think Madoff’s son may have been overcome with guilt for turning his father in.
No, no, no. You’re supposed to say something like, “well, my morahs keep telling me that I work too hard” or “I get very intense about things I care about” (and be prepared to cite examples). It’s your opinion, so as long as it’s not completely outrageous, you can stretch it (not the truth, but your version of the truth) a bit… 😛
Why do companies make the jellied kind that comes in jars? That has to be the most disgusting stuff ever…
How long in meters is the 10 foot pole I wouldn’t touch that with?
frumladygit – I wonder if the case of Tracey H. was an (accidental, of course) overdose or allergic reaction from the pitocin or epidural. She had not had either in her previous 2 deliveries, and she said about this one, “After they started the pitocin, it felt a little weird”…
What I don’t get is, wasn’t she on a monitor? They had me hooked up to all that when I had pitocin and epidurals. Shouldn’t they have at least caught her oxygen level, even if her heart hadn’t stopped beating yet?
And why at 7 weeks premature were they giving her pitocin? Look at the date… Dec. 24… her water had broken so the baby needed to come out, and they (Drs.) wanted to be out of there for their holiday… just saying…
“Why do we have lines at all? Why not just whoever pushes hardest goes first?”
That’s how it works in the kugel line on Shabbos (which is also rude), but that doesn’t mean we have to behave that way in public…
I will sometimes let someone with only a couple things go ahead of me, esp. if I have a lot. If they were to then bring a whole cart full along, I would be annoyed.
As far as someone holding a place in line for someone who is shopping (and not just for one forgotten thing) – I think I would actually say, “I’m sorry, but the back of the line is back there.” What is so terrible about waiting your turn like everyone else?
I would like to add:
E. Grammar: check and DOUBLE check. Using Yiddish grammar in English is unacceptable.
F. Proper punctuation. Excessive capitalization and punctuation only SPARINGLY AND WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!!!!!!!!!!
G. No run-on sentences.
I have yichus! Ask me about my Mayflower ancestors! LOL…
I had midwives, and I had c-sections. It’s just the way it went for me. I wouldn’t have done it differently, although if I would have qualified I would have squatted in a field just to keep them from unnecessarily checking me over and over.
If someone is very low-risk, with support at home and access to a hospital, there’s no reason not to attempt a homebirth. I wasn’t low-risk enough to consider it.
People who consider homebirth/midwives/birthing centers are generally very educated about the birthing process. They are committed to a healthy labor and birth for both mother and baby. I didn’t care what other people think. But I’ve never really cared about peer pressure…
For some reason I am not nearly as offended by this as others, certainly not enough to personally attack the OP.
I have done some of these things, and I would do others if I could. But I can also laugh at myself. No, my kids do not own a litter of stuffed pigs. If I were fortunate to have two freezers, maybe I *would* have one fleishigs and one milchigs.
Maybe the talmid taking three steps halfway out of shul is trying to get away from the guy coughing and sneezing all over everyone?
Buy a movie ticket?? That’s what makes it funny. Google Docs? That’s actually a great idea, although I would just use good old Word…
I guess I would add, never say “Good Shabbos” to anyone, even when out of town and only passing 5 people walking to/from shul, but note I didn’t accuse one person of doing this – it seems to be an in-town “thing”.
OK, I laughed, loudly.
2) Hang a sign on your front door saying “ATTN LADIES, PLEASE USE SIDE ENTRANCE” (and if you don’t have a side entrance, even better).
…and I am female…
Eclipse: the proper response to TMB is: OK, you first!
I am really impressed by the posts on this subject here.
Re: Geirim having a gadol in their past: Their neshamas were at Har Sinai also…
There are great things about both Passaic and Baltimore. Baltimore is MUCH more affordable.
The dogs didn’t bark when we left Mitzrayim…
I don’t know about Brookyn, but in the rest of the tri-state area, the blizzard didn’t start until Sunday afternoon, and it’s only Tuesday…
Oomis – if I give you enough money, can I have a bedrooom by the water?
Over the summer I offered one a large bottle of water, and he said, “what do I look like, a water tank?” I just glared at him.
He also practically ignored me and talked only to my husband until he realized I was the one writing the check, LOL.
The ones who interrupt people’s davening are the worst. There’s a sign on the door in 4 languages not to ask until after.
How about Husbands Against Being Flattened?
Does anyone know how Be Happy is?
Eclipse – Threadasaurus??
Oh no – this thread didn’t evolve, it was CREATED!!!
(Purim can’t be far away)
Wolf: Do they have to be 12 or 18?
GAW: Work with me.
I was thinking the same thing. What a tragedy. Baruch Dayan Haemes.
I can’t believe NO ONE has brought up Wolf’s role in Little Red Riding Hood. Where do you think Wolf got the idea from??
Silence in the middle of the day!!
… and when homework is being done…
I don’t know if Hashem has a FB profile, but he does have some fan pages!
So we should be saving welfare for the legal residents who have Section 8, food stamps, and $3,000 sheitels?
What do YOU think?
3500 sf is not an average house!
FWIW: All these magazine need to do a better job proofreading!!!
Loved part 2 about the prison rabbi, and the reaction he got from heating his LaBriute meal!!
FWIW, I had orthoscopy for chondromalacia several years ago and it was the best thing I could have done. I even got to watch on a monitor (I did some serious bargaining to get out of general anesthesia, which I was deathly afraid of at the time). If my other knee ever needs it, I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. I took the PT seriously after surgery and I could tell it was helping.
I’ve done it several times already, LOL. No one ever noticed… even when I came back 😛
an undisclosed location ;P
Present and accounted for, Sir. (Reb?)
I think that’s a fantastic idea. Don’t forget to say Good Shabbos when you’re visiting in other communities as well!
…but there are still three opinions.