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    Besides how can you expect a guy who wants to get married and cannot because of all these criteria, how can you expect them to not get depressed or start drinking when they search their whole lives and just get broken cause of reasons that aren’t in their control. It’s sad that it comes to this. Look how many marriages where both husband and wife have well established careers and the marriages are worse than gehinom! Status means nothing. Yes you need parnassah but careers/money don’t declare anything as far as how good the marriage will be. When you take everything away from a person all that’s left of them is their kind heart and soul. The rest is a distraction.

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    Rebyid- lives of true love tend to be longest. And being poor as well was just an extreme example. You can have an average life and be happy with what you have and have a true mutual live which lasts longer and more meaningful than anything. Don’t necessarily need to be poor it’s not either or. And rather than being blinded by money and influences from all sides family,friends,shadchanim who put in false criteria to look into a guy when it just ruins many potential matches.

    Yes money is important and my examples include a guy who is hard working but just has an average parnassah. Isn’t the everlasting outcome of marriage the actual person who you marry or is it the money which is temporary? I think girls/woman need to reprogram their minds to what’s important. I don’t except girls to know this they are usually young and spoiled and easily influenced by others manipulation. But the problem is that the older girls were young once too and it only took then to reach age 30 and up to understand what the true importsnce of life is. Especially if they have a stable income. They could have shared their lives with someone but didn’t even consider since they expected the guy to make just as much or more. Was the competition worth it?

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    Problem is most girls who are settled expect no less from the guy if not more. So the fact that they have a steady income actually goes against a guy who has a regular job or no diploma. If a girl truly wanted to marry, they shouldn’t be turning it into a competition of who makes more. As long as the guy is good and a hard worker there should be no reason to dismiss unless these girls just want to stay single over their false pride. Some still feel they are 20 years old with so many options. Besides what is more true in life, true happiness with the person you want to be with forever or some extra paper? Especially if the woman is settled she has no excuse if she found a good guy by rejecting him due to finances. Even a poor life with the partner who is your true love is worth more than a life of leisure with someone who isn’t. It’s worth everything in this short life in my opinion. Nothing compares to having that person as yours.

    in reply to: Toothpaste Anyone? #1706261
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    Good point

    in reply to: Toothpaste Anyone? #1705752
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    Any other theories?

    in reply to: Stealing the Afikomon #1704883
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    Funnybone, isn’t that how the minhag works? That’s why I don’t understand why it’s considered stealing the afikomen rather than finding it

    in reply to: Toothpaste Anyone? #1704881
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    “Tom’s has strawberry with an OU”
    Thanks kollelman but once again we talking about companies that obviously don’t have an ou

    in reply to: car troubles #1704815
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    Btw dirty car totally works. They will mistake scratches for being dirt as they blend in. Never wash car before. Besides car wash only add more scratches to the paint.

    in reply to: Toothpaste Anyone? #1704801
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    Shnitzy what’s that have to do with the kosher

    in reply to: Toothpaste Anyone? #1704766
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    Halal or Haram means it is ok by kosher standards?
    Companies might be vegan in terms of no animal derivatives but can’t claim or be listed as vegan if they test it on animals so they cannot tell you that they are vegan if that’s the case. I’m obviously asking about companies without kosher certification because if they had a hechsher there wouldn’t be an issue. Companies such as Crest, Colgate,aquafresh, etc.
    I wrote to crest and they said they have no animal byproducts and the glycerin comes from plants or other sources. Is that enough?

    in reply to: Stealing the Afikomon #1704500
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    Why would it be stealing? You hide the afikomen and the kid can find it not steal it. You are allowing them to find it. Where did the whole stealing thing come from? If anything the kids are learning to look for mitzvohs!

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1704494
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    That’s a good point

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    The only downside on leasing is how some companies get you for every little ding and scratch at the end of the lease which is normal wear and tear. Difficult to have peace of mind for those 3 years when you constantly see new scratches on the bumper or sides of the vehicle especially in nyc where parking is wreckless.
    Not to mention that scratches and tiny dents are inevitable when you drive a car on the street, aside for weather such as snow and ice and trucks that scatter salt at 100 mph hitting your cars paint.
    Thtats how lease companies make the big bucks. I mean seriously to charge for plastic hubcaps that cost them nothing and which they obviously replace anyhow before reselling the vehicle! I’m sure they aren’t counting on using your 3 year old hubcaps, but they will charge you $100 for each one if it’s worn out or has a small chip. That’s just disgusting and ruins the lease experience. Best to take em off and save them for the end of lease so that they are in pristine condition. They will definitely get worn out if you drive and park a lot.

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    Habochur,”Leasing is for ppl who have the mishigas of always driving late model cars. There’s no reason why you can’t buy a car and have it last for more then 3 years”

    Not true. People want to drive a new reliable car without any problems. Ya you could get a used car to last for more than 3 years but you think you won’t have to invest a dime for mechanical work? Most used cars constantly need fix ups and maintenance. Not to mention when you buy a used car from someone you have to pay the whole sum at once. It might already be the same as the whole 3 year lease deal and youre still taking a chance with the used car as it’s likely you will need to invest more money to keep it going.

    Assuming you get lucky and you get a used car that will last more than 3 years without major mechanical investments, and all you need is a simple car for driving, then ya it’s worth more than leasing in the longrun. But who’s guaranteeing you that?
    Besides many times there are deals on leases such was $99 a month for Nissan Sentra and only 1300 up-front, it’s really not a lot of money at all for driving a brand new car for 3 years. Insurance is a little more than an old owned car yes, and you are taking a chance on end of lease fees especially if no waiver, but if it works out then that’s a great deal for 3 years of worry free driving! Even with all the fees it might still be cheaper than having to constantly fix an old car. Aside for the aggravation. Or it might just even out. So then it’s up to what you prefer to drive.
    True that a purchased used car will be yours, but sometimes you might not want it to be yours anymore with all the issues.

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    But I think by leasing they make you get full coverage. If it’s your car it’s not mandatory. If it gets stolen thats your problem.

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    If you have a waiver from the company than leasing is no issue as far as scratches and small dents. Most don’t though. And after that it’s just like having a long term rental. Most people need a reliable car.

    in reply to: Ice cream called “big gay” certified kosher-what’s your take? #1702787
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    Sy G- Jews understand the problem and won’t go to media for attention against their fellow jew. Usually. Plus on Jewish owned private venues there are strict rules not just on food. Even in restaurants the hasgacha can be strict on what music is playing in the background.

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    Coffee, there are upsides and downsides to leasing. It all depends what matters to you more. First of all when buying a used car you will most likely run into mechanical fixes. It’s not always easy to find a good used car for a good price as it is. Leasing is all about money. No need to search for a forsale sign all over, just pay and you get a new car. You don’t need to worry about fixing mechanical issues such as power windows, timing belts, transmission, oil changes and other maintenance, anti freeze levels, and so on.

    True that you aren’t left with anything after 3 years but who’s to say a used car would last you for more than 3 years anyhow? Especially without investing a lot of money to constantly fix things that go bad. With a lease you can think of it as a long term rental. When you think of it that way, it makes more sense since a rental would never be say $125 a month. Ya insurance is more for a lease but even with insurance it’s so much cheaper than a rental.

    So again with leasing you get a brand new worry free car as opposed to being afraid of getting stuck on a highway with a used vehicle. Its the most logical if you compare it to buying a used car that might not last longer than those 3 years anyway or renting which makes no sense at all. Also many people like driving a new car every few years.

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    Maybe putting some dirt on the car to cover up scratches! Wd 40 trick also works wonders

    in reply to: My Best Friend Is A Goy #1702049
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    Spouse material? If not why would it be an issue?

    in reply to: car troubles #1701954
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    Not all leases offer a damage waiver that you can purchase.

    Also depends on the company. Lincoln might be lenient cause they are a much more expensive car. Besides usually there is a small waiver if you are getting a new lease from them such as Nissan offers $500 which is practically nothing seeing how they charge for everything including the bumper and even hubcaps. If you have a small chip in the hubcap you’ll be charged $100 for a replacement as if they don’t replace hubcaps anyway when they resell the vehicle.

    I also thought that bumper is included in normal wear and tear but it isn’t and it’s not even something you can prevent since most people park their car outside and don’t carry a portable garage with them. And as far as scratches, it’s not only the length it depends how deep they are and usually the maximum amount is accumulative meaning they might just give you 10″ altogether so if you have many small scratches which is totally normal for a car on the road for 3 years they will charge.

    Seriously, charging someone $100 for each hubcap cause they aren’t in perfect condition? Best to remove them or replace for the lease and then just put them back on when returning.
    Again all depends on company. Nissan is one of the worst when it comes to this.

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1699681
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    It’s not just chabad who are machmir on beards it’s more like all chassidishe groups. The only reason it seems unique to chabad is because they heavily judge people based on beards. Even many modern lubavitchers trim nowadays but that’s besides the point. Anyway most litvish do have beards and especially after marriage. But again not sure why the beard makes the yid in your eyes cause it definitely doesn’t. It grows by itself and bums have beards as well so nothing to work hard for. Try to focus on actual Torah and mitzvohs it’ll be a better way to use up your time.

    Rebetzin, everyone has their own customs. In Litvish hashkafa there aren’t really dynasties so their are many different customs following many different Tzadikkim not forgetting actual halacha. Again the teshuva from Chasam Sofer is from around 200 years ago.
    Besides that even those who you refer to follow things only when convenient for them. Sort of like a pick and choose. Easy to focus on when it helps their cause but convenient enough to ignore other things when it doesn’t.

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    “When they started shaving before the war, however, it was new and it was due to the influence of the haskala and the other winds of modernity.”

    5ish look into the teshuva of the Chasam Sofer and you’ll see that it wasn’t new. Stop trying to make up history. Also accept the fact that everyone has their customs. The beard doesn’t make the yid. Plenty of other things to focus on.

    in reply to: Debating with a Pakistani scammer #1698791
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    Any thoughts on my original question of concrete examples/proof/argument of how idol worship is wrong and all those are false gods? What are some examples to battle that belief? They are very strong in their belief of idols and very passionate about worshipping them. Hindus, and all other idol worshipping religions.

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1698156
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    Daas with another clever one!

    in reply to: Debating with a Pakistani scammer #1698155
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    I was speaking of the minority Hindu followers in those countries and neighboring countries. They believe in false gods and idols.

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1698154
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    Rebetzin, unfortunately on all sides children are taught(brainwashed) in a manner of lifting themselves up by lowering others. This is also the normal way of teaching even for adults. In fact the ones who accuse the whole yiddishe world of hating them do it most. Everyone should lower their gaiva of my rebbe is better than your Gadol and my Gadol is better than your Rebbe, and just remember the fact that we are all one. It’s a real shame how so many teachings come with the belittling of other yiddishe groups in order to feel superior.

    There is one Torah, one Yidden, and one Hashem. We are all the same with variations in customs which basically originated due to certain situations and locations in the world and doubts/loss of the original minhag. The problem is everyone took it too far and made these “temporary” minhagim halacha lemoshe misinai! Just follow your minhagim without the need to belittle others in order to raise yourself. Shows how much confidence you truly have in your own minhagim when you have to do that doesn’t it?

    Why can’t it be accepted that everyone has their own way of serving Hashem?

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    Chossid-“Then I walk outside and lo and behold I see all the bochurim playing basketball.”

    Oh please the classic we are better than them deal. There’s always that lubavicther (which I’m guessing you are) who happened to daven at a litvish yeshiva and saw these things. Your stories always follow the same pattern. What if I told you the things I saw in your yeshivas? You would be shocked at bochurim behaviors. I saw myself and was taken aback.

    in reply to: Debating with a Pakistani scammer #1698083
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    How do you debate them on their belief in avoda Zara? Is there any concrete answer to prove to them how these are false gods and idols and there are no others but HIM?

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697723
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    People shaved less in general since it was just so much harder to do without electric shavers. It was much easier to trim if anything. Plus people were “poorer” and had less access to scissors even. Much more people would have shaved if it was possible. It was much easier not to. Besides for minhag.

    Source sefari(dot)org Chasam Sofer Orach Chaim 159

    אשר מלא פיו תוכחות קדוש יאמר לו ובודאי כן הוא בכמה מנהגי’ שנתקלקלו אצל ההמונים ונעשה להם היתר בעו”ה אבל אשר שם פניו נגד מגולחי הזקן לא ידעתי מה הרעש הגדול הזה לכו נא ונוכחה אי משום חוקת הגוים אשאלהו ויודיעני מי התיר לנו נעלים שחורים המבואר בש”ס לאסור מסאני אוכמי ולהפליא ענין אמרו במס’ תענית כ”ד ע”א דהוה מסיים מסאני אוכמי ויעיין ב”ק י”ט ע”ב ובתוס’ שם ד”ה דהוה מסיים ובשיטה מקובצת שם מחלק בין שחור לאוכם וזה מסכים קצת לפי’ ה”ג דמייתי תוס’ פא”ט מ”ו ע”ב ד”ה אוכמי הנאמר שהוא מקור משחת כאשר כ’ על עם ה’ אלו לא ניחא למרי’ למימר הכי והוא דבר דלא נמצא בש”ס ופוסקים וגם לא בשום ספר מספרי חצונים שיהי’ הפרש בין ישראל לאינו ישראל בגילוח הזקן כי אז גם כל האומו’ היו מגדלי’ זקניה’ ויעיי’ בש”ס שבת קנ”ב ע”א תלת אמרת לי תלת שמע’ וכו’ וברב’ בראשי’ פ’ י”א סי’ ז’ פילוסו’ שאל את ר’ יהושע וכו’ מפני מה אותו האיש מגלח פאת ראשו ומגדל זקנו וכו’ יע”ש אבל לא נמצא בשום מקום שיהיה בזה משונה מנהג גוים ומה שרמז לספרי מקובלים שכ’ שלא להושיט ידי’ בדקני כלל אין לי עסק בנסתרות אבל מהם ומהמונם הותרה הרצועה לגמרי בכל ארץ אטלי’ שכל חכמיה מגולחי זקן ונתלים באילן גדול ר’ מנחם עזרי’ בעל עשרה מאמרות אבי המקובלי’ שהוא הי’ מגולח מבלי השאיר שערה א’ וכן העיד עליו היש”ר מקאנדי’ באילים שלו והי’ אומר שעפ”י חכמי המקובלים אין ח”ל ראויה לכך ומה אאריך במה שאין לי יד ושם בו אבל אבותינו הנהגו עצמם כן על צד ההכרח הגדול ולא מקור משחת ח”ו אלא בקדושה יתירה והוא בימי גזירת תתנ”ו והרועים וכדומה התירו גדוליהם להמכתתי’ רגליהם לשנו’ מלבוש ולגלח זקנם שלא יכירום האויבים כי אז כבר גלחו הגוים זקניהם עפ”י מעשה ממלך פולין א’ שהי’ סריס כמבואר בספרי הימי’ והתירו חז”ל שהיו בימים ההם לעשות כן ולהיות גלוח הזקן דבר שא”א להשתנו’ והיו נכלמים מאוד האנשים ההמה בשובם לביתם ע”כ נשתרבב המנהג שלא לגדלו כלל רק סימנא בעלמא שזה יגולח ויגדל בקוצר זמן שבן לילה היה ורק אך מופלגי תורה היושבים בביתם הם מגדלים אותו ואותן שלפני גזירה ההיא שברחו לארץ פולין לא באו לכלל זה והנה זה ברור ונכון כי אלו היה תחלת מנהגו באיסור היה משום חוקי הגוים אבל אחר שכבר נהגו ישראל לגלח תו אין בו שום נדנוד ופקפוק כלל אפילו ריח איסור אין בו אבל הך דמסאני אוכמי לא ידעתי איך יתפשט ע”כ צריכי’ אנו ללמוד זכות ולומר שנתפשט ג”כ בתחילה בהיתר וכיון שהותר הותר והנה יעיי’ ביורה דעה סימן קנ”ז ס”ב ויעיי’ ש”ך סימן קע”ח סק”ד הקשה אמהרי”ק ובחידושי למסכת חולין ישבתי ת”ל יתברך באופן הנאות ואי משום מספריים כעין תער זהו חשש רחוק ושרשו פתוח מתרומת הדשן כשהזוג חדוד מאוד יש לזהר אולי יחתוך בתחתון לחוד וידענא שהוא מידי דלא שכיח גם מההשחתה תחת הגרון המעיי’ בש”ס וראשונים יראה כי ממש לית מאן דחש לדברי ר”ח בזה והמחמיר קדוש יאמר לו והמקיל לא יאמר עליו מקור משחת ח”ו כללו של דבר כל מה שאמר מכ”ת באגדת ריב”ח הנמשל הוא טוב וקדש קדשים והמשל שהיסב פני’ על חטא קל וקטן לא יקרא ח”ו בשם חטא ועון חלילה וחס והאומר כן עתיד ליתן הדין בלי ספק והייתי יכול להמשיל משל אחר אבל ועמך כולם צדיקים כתי’ ויהי’ ממחוז פלוני או פלוני:

    Btw doesn’t it say about Yosef Hatzaddik vayegalach, before meeting pharaoh? And Moshe Rabbeiunu (leviim)was commanded to do so once? And kitzur brings up not shaving on certain days meaning shaving was an allowed thing? Etc.

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697644
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    Gaon, yes but he writes a whole teshuva explaining other reasons supporting the topic including the history behind it. If someone can post it would be great I don’t know how to do that.

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697390
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    There is a teshuva from the Chasam Sofer about beards. In fact I think he says it dates back to Spain by the crusades. If someone can post the teshuva please it is very interesting and in depth

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1696683
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    Tomim”This it is appropriate for each and every Yid to spend time studying and internalizing Chassidus Chabad, and being miskasher to the Nossi Hador, the Rebbe.”

    What about all the other Nossi Hador of all past years?
    You do know that the Rebbe said in a sicha that to go around and tell another Yid that Tehillas Hashem is the only right Nusach, or that Tomchei Temimim is the only yeshiva to go to etc, isnt right to do.
    Btw why cant chabad accept that everyone has their own way?

    Neville-“Chabadniks have achilas keva before shachris. This is what you guys always do. You focus on a facet of the issue where you have slight backing to throw a smoke screen over the greater picture and fool the less learned people.”

    Exactly

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1696680
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    “Rabbi Yerucham Olshin made such an effort to come from lakeood to Rubashkins chassuna, and you see him in a video dancing to Lubavitcher niginim.”

    -He must be lubavitch now since he visited a wedding and “danced” to lubavitch niggunim. Just curious was everyone sitting down when suddenly he heard a lubavitch niggun and felt such an impulse to dance to it? Or was everyone dancing to that music which was playing?
    I guess he should have requested a Litvishe tune to accommodate him since he was in charge of someone elses wedding right?

    This is the problem with you guys, someone visits a lubavitcher or listens to a dvar Torah so you already turn them into leaving their own minhagim and seeing “the light” of chabad. Seriously so childish. How can anyone show you respect when you use it as them “admitting” that lubavitch is the way. How many lubavitchers meet with the Litvish world but the Litvaks dont publish it on every media and social outlet they can?

    in reply to: Captain Bump, who are you and why? #1696279
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    Captain good to hear from you
    Why is everyone saying you are blocked?

    in reply to: How Long Will This Thread Last? #1694812
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    whats with all the old threads being bumped. Just delete them lol so boring!

    in reply to: Is starting a lot of new threads worse than bumping a lot of old ones? #1694810
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    Most threads should be deleted

    in reply to: Joining Chabad #1694808
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    Just stop these threads. Every side has there strengths and weaknesses. Each side thinks they are right. You want to stay where youre at do it, you want to leave, do it. Dont make a whole scene. This thread is going to turn ugly quick. Mods should stop approving such sinas chinam threads. And I mean sinas chinam from both sides. All sides have what to work on. Enough of these sick arguments!

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    Neville “Surely you can’t be serious. Hitler wrote Mein Kampf (which became a best-seller), detailing his Anti-semitic opinions in 1925 and came to power in 1933. Kriallnacht was in 1938.”

    Noone takes anyone seriously when it’s just thoughts. Most have anti semitic thoughts doesn’t mean they actually do something. Yes he came into power in that year and those years were the warning signs which is the whole point of this topic. And once kristallnacht happened it was basically an overnight thing.

    “It seems like your goal isn’t actually to get us to stop ignoring the Antisemitism in the US, but rather to get us to START ignoring all the Antisemitism in Israel and elsewhere.”

    You keep mentioning anti semitism in Israel, there is no anti semitism in Israel! Last I’ve checked the government is still Jewish. And no, not igniring the global anti semitism I’ve already brought that up. Besides Europe is known for it’s hatred towards Jews nothing changed and nothing new as far as that goes. But here in the land of the free we have gotten used to peaceful times, but we see it changing. Slowly, yes. But again it usually happens slowly until it reaches the point of overnight breakout c”v. And that’s what needs to be stopped so it doesn’t get to that point.

    Maybe not everyone is ignoring but not enough is being done about it. Besides most of the Democratic party has either been silent or actually came out to defend the hatred of Omar towards Jews. Just wondering how many riots would have been going on if the N word started appearing all over the city. Oh boy I could just imagine how many people would speak out against it.

    Just wondering if these are all warning signs.

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    We have enough issues even without woman drinking ad dlo yada let’s not add on. We can start by working on summer modesty first and then advance to drinking.

    in reply to: USA ANTISEMITISM #1692478
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    “So, the original topic was that Antisemitism is bad in the US currently.”

    -no Neville the topic is that anti semitism is getting WORSE in the US especially from politicians and that we should be aware and not simply ignore as is so comfortable for most to do.
    Also don’t be jealous if my thread got more than 2 replies. But thanks for contributing seems you were interested enough ; )

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    Nevillle-“As far as an outburst happening overnight, which by the way is not actually how it historically has worked, the question would still be why would you be safe in Israel? If the industrialized world was taken over by Nazi rhetoric, they’re not going to just target the Jews in chutz and leave Israel alone.”

    -ever heard of kristallnacht?

    And yes of course a nation who is powerful enough to conquer the world night try to get at Israel as well, but there is still someone (an army) who is willing to fight on your behalf for as long as they can, rather than fight you or round you up. That’s the difference. Also again if a country were to invade Israel, that isn’t anti semitism it would be war. Anti semitism is a very scary thing when you are in a foreign land surrounded by wolves. There is nowhere to run. It’s different when it comes to war.

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    Well Joseph I’m only responding to your broken record about Hamas and other external enemies attacking Israel. You should understand that this topic is about anti semitism outbreaks in foreign non Jewish lands. Not about external enemies attacking a country. Every country deals with threats from enemies. Yes in case of global anti semitism Israel would be the only place where for sure the government would not institute killing of Jews by the government and army themselves(Germany,Rome,Persia,Egypt,Russia,Spain etc.)

    We hope nothing will ever come to this but we are seeing things unfolding. There’s no denying that anti semitism is being unleashed in the world and awoken. It must be stopped early if even possible at all. And there isn’t enough being done about it. I’m sure most of the world is comfortable with that and actually encourage it.

    So let’s keep to the topic please. Thanks.

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    Chassidishe-“As Avi K says. People who commit traffic offenses and then try to talk / lie their way out of getting a fine are despicable.

    It’s bad enough that they violate traffic laws in the first place. But then, instead of facing up to it and admitting their wrongdoing, to discuss methods to ‘trick’ the cop into not giving you a fine…. is REPREHENSIBLE.”

    -I mean dude, these things happen. Sometimes your just moving with the flow of traffic on an open highway. The fact that the limits are Ridiculously low such as 45 on a highway, doesnt mean it isnt safe to drive 60 or 70 when there is such low traffic. Besides there are so many traps that are designed to catch you. So lets not be naive.

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    Joseph “-If you want to discuss government sponsored attacks on Jews, that’s never happened in America and there’s no reason to think it is more likely today or tomorrow than it was yesterday or ten or twenty years ago. ”

    -What makes you so confident? Things go downhill fast when they do.

    Neville-“What we’re trying to tell you is that even if it was an extremely quick rate of change (which it’s not by your own words), it would take a century or more for the US to catch up with Israel in terms of danger.”

    -Really? Anti semitism outbreak would take a century or more? I was always aware those things practically happen overnight.

    “What we’re trying to tell you is that even if it was an extremely quick rate of change (which it’s not by your own words), it would take a century or more for the US to catch up with Israel in terms of danger.”

    -Not my intention to make a campaign to move to Israel. However I do believe it would be the safest place on the planet for Jews in case of global anti semitism. Theres no comparison between living in the land that belongs to you no matter what people say, than in a foreign land. Again we arent competing between Hamas attacks in Israel or the USA. We are raising a condition in case of open anti semitism, would it still feel safe to live in the USA? Giving examples of known enemies attacking Israel is not the same issue at all. You would never feel threatened by anti semitism in Israel. There is no such thing since anti semitism outbreak comes from the government. Meaning they choose if they fight it or actually encourage it. Its how its always been. Im pretty sure that would never happen is Israel. Especially not by Jewish government no matter how leftist they are.

    In america its a different story. You have “Jews” such as Bernie Sanders defending blatant enemies such as Omar who by the way will grow stronger and stronger. Noone can shut down such an evil mouth. And most dont seem to want to either. And its not just her, its that woman Talib, and the great intelligent AOC bartender. Such “smart empowering” women. “Defenders of race”, minority leaders, fighting against discrimination and treatment of women. You get the picture. And people seem to like that trendy topic.

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    Coffee addict- what land is left after America? I think it’s the last stop before Israel. If c”v there was major anti semitism in USA, I’m not sure other countries would be any more welcoming. Back then there were select countries left to flee to including America.

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    Joseph you keep giving examples of external enemies attacking and waging war. That’s not considered anti semitism by definition or government waged anti semitism on its own people. Those are just enemies.

    ” As a practical matter Israel is the most dangerous country for a Jew to live.”

    In event of anti semitism outbreak in foreign lands, it would be safest for Jews. I doubt that the israeli government would share interest in a Holocaust on its own people.

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    Joseph you aren’t making any sense. Do you really think that if Israel as it is today was around in the times of the Holocaust wouldn’t try to protect the Jews or do you think the nasty zionists would also make a Holocaust in Israel?

    No matter what the political views are, Israel would be the safest place for Jews in event of anti semitism.

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    Joseph-“And the IDF is not more likely to save Yidden than the US Army is. In fact, the IDF already does look at many Yidden as the enemy, tries to forcibly conscript them into their secular anti-Torah melting pot to shmad them into their anti-religious Israeli society. The IDF is less likely to save the Yidden they hate than the US Army is.”

    In event of war the army would fight to protect all citizens. IDF trying to draft bochurim has nothing to do with the actual soldiers who fight. Bochurim drafted is a whole other topic and in fact there have been many “bochurim” who just use yeshiva as an excuse to not be drafted when though they can hardly be called a yeshiva bochur. But that’s not the point. Let’s be real there’s no way the israeli army could pick and choose who to protect in event of war. That’s just silly.

    Of course the American army is strong and capable but we are talking of an event if CH”V there is open anti semitism, who said they would turn on you? It’s happened in all other countries in the past.

    And Neville and apukerma, yes for now things are still tolerable, but we are seeing things slowly changing and becoming more accepted and encouraged. It’s not true that most people condemned Omar. In fact many came out to defend her saying she has no anti semitic intentions, including Nancy pelosi, AOC and many others also “our very own” Bernie Sanders.

    “Things are more out of control in Israel than in the English speaking countries.”

    – yes but anti semitism grows out if control real quick if not stopped while it’s still possible to stop it.
    All political views on Israel aside, let’s be real for a second. If anything happened Israelis would be United no matter political or religious levels. Its always been the case during war.

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    Joseph we have been thrown out not only from Israel, but also from all other lands. Especially lands which were empires at that time. It’s always the strongest countries which have done that to us. Which is frightening. And again the difference between being forced out of Israel or a foreign land is that at least you know Israel is your land no matter what and it’s the only place in the world that you know belongs to you.

    I didn’t say the IDF will save you even thought it may be the case. The point is why would the American army save you if they turn against you and view you as the enemy? Lehavdil elef havdallos the German army was extremely strong and on the way to conquer the world. Did they save the Yidden? Obviously not. If you become the enemy of the country then the whole country turns against you. That’s why I bring up this topic. There are too many things happening and they are slowly getting out of control. People in the street and politicians alike. And they are getting a lot of support.

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