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It’s better than quoting mius celebrities or tumadik songs, no?
😉Often you can get half decent stuff for like 75 cents and free shipping. No idea how that works out for them
I bought a wooden nickel for 75 cents once
Stormfront is a virulently anti semitic website.
Bringing any sort of “proof” from there is ludicrous.
So mw13 didn’t really hear it from a cousin?
What???
Exactly what basis would I have had for deleting the post?? When posts are of topic feel free to say so or ask the poster to post elsewhere.What kind of question is that?!
Just don’t send it to any livestock in the UK
Were you the sanitation worker or the Zionist?
How about Tuesday at noon at the new embassy building in Jerusalem.
HaRav??
While this is a wonderful place to discuss emuna, questions on emuna would be better answered in person or by phone by someone who is trained and knowledgable on the subject and how to teach it to others. There are mentors available through partners in torah and other organizations for this purpose.
Backpedal much?
“When did I ever claim that my “tochacha” has been met with continued sinning? I never made such a claim.”
Sure you did, go back and look.
Halacha is halacha, are you telling Joseph he is wrong? If halacha says to stop if sinning continues, and does not include a disclaimers for others it is not within your right to bend halacha to fit your perception.
One must give tochacha unless he’s sure he’ll be ignored and the sinner will continue sinning.
Great! You both have had more than ample PROOF that your “tochacha” has been met with “continued sinning” (more of the same posts), by your own claims this has been the case. THEREFORE I expect, starting this VERY minute, that you both will put a STOP to your tochacha and cease from causing further sinning.
THANK YOU!?
Based on things I’ve had to delete, no, if say they don’t.
Wow CT, that has got to be the most dramatic, overly emotional not very logical post I’ve ever seen you produce!
I hear what you’re saying, (and again am very grateful for the perspective) but in all sincerity I have to tell you I feel the exact same way about your interpretation. Maybe it is my age or my geographical location. I don’t know. But your interpretation, which you call clear and others do as well, is literally a yoga move for a bunch of others of us. Your clarity will convince you, my clarity (and life experience?) tells me that that presentation you give is mucho contrived, so we don’t have to agree to disagree, but we can both walk away knowing more about people and perspectives and how important it is to know that even when you are so sure it is clear, it may not really be so clear after all.
And thank you for the discussion.That problem is easily solved. Either bring your own, or quit school.
Who let this through?
Thank you for the compliment and more so for the explanation. I think because it was “clear” to you, it is harder to understand the distinction. I have to say that after 30 years of dealing with schools I don’t think it was intimidation or else anything. It was a request that they consider to be valid, that others consider to be a misplacement of Torah values and priorities. (I am NOT discussing the issue (I add this as a reference point to where this post is coming from), I am talking about the inconsistency of the presented facts.) ThEREFORE the two above comments are not even similar to me, nor where they to various others who read them. Perhaps it was clear to you, but I would not even have seen the connection (which I still see as a speculated stretch) had you not explained it. POINT BEING – (NOT that I feel either way about the topic!!!) that it is important to distinguish between your perspective on words that were stated, and the words themselves when making accusations of l”h, ms”r, disagreeing etc. I wanted the concept to be known, as a moderator who often deals with it on this side, and I was pointing it out. I hope this helps you see where I was coming from.
And if someone decides to derail this post with cries of “that’s how conversations work”,” so do we have to double check all our impressions yada yada yada..” go right ahead. I am talking about situations of rebuke. And I am only elaborating in the hopes of clarifying for the specific poster who asked.
“The implication of his post was very clearly as LU has described.”
People need to be a lot more careful about what they call “clear”
“29, you’re dancing between the raindrops.”
I am not dancing between anything. I am stating a common problem that occurs across topics and am asking people to be more careful. In addition to refraining from assuming that they were correct in the first place. This is imperative in cries of lashon hora as well as general discussion.
“I did research the matter and the entire story was completely false. There is no girls’ high school in Lakewood that refuses to take students whose fathers wear blue shirts.”
This is a very big and very common problem in the CR. The OP said :
I responded that due to the type of work I do, I wear blue shirts. I was told (direct quote with no exaggeration): “please keep a white shirt in your car, and when you leave work, you need to put your white shirt on”.Nobody said she wasn’t accepted for his blue shirt.
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The Mods get many complaints asking us why we posted/didn’t delete things that were never even stated. How much of this argument and name calling is based on things that were NOT actually stated. It is very important, when accusing others of L”H, referencing others posts in a conversation or even just replying, to read carefully and be cognizant of what the poster actually wrote. Perhaps a poster needs correcting, but wouldn’t it make more sense if we actually know what it was he said in the first place?He had already stated he wouldn’t.
I’ll let my 5 year old know.
Cortana tells some really funny jokes. One of my favorite:
“There are two types of people in this world, those who need closure…”I was referring to you taking an old thread and inserting new posts after almost every old post without really losing the continuity of the thread!
Very creative!
And now I see that the OP I responded to isn’t even there anymore. Interesting.
Ha ha, and looking back at Lefty’s post he seemed to be commenting more on the absence of comments from our CR-Dayanim than on the subject itself! Joseph – do women write their seforim while making dinner?
I wouldn’t call him a gorilla per se, although he could certainly use a shave and haircut.
LB, people usually use/save the term sfarim for sifrei kodesh.
Taken today at a bus stop in front of the yeshiva.
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Yes RY, this is an exact parody of some recent posts/accusations. Whatever you left unsaid becomes silently mentioned, and then you become responsible for this support of the unmentioned.
Didn’t we do this already?
“Maybe you can find someone else to explain it to you.”
These types of condescending remarks will be edited or deleted.
I don’t need help understanding your opinion, I am telling you you are mistaken.Insistence that you, a woman, have the ability, and the authority to pasken a shaila for someone you don’t know and are not able to have a basic conversation with is frightening. People need to know that that is not how halacha works.
Once again, An appropriate response would have been that you are of the opinion that…but that she needs to check with her rabbi or a posek.
I wasn’t talking about adding those words, it was about “issuing a psak”, telling her ,”it was 100% mutar” or that “no tshuva is needed”. This type of assurance needs to be done in person by someone who is given all the facts to the situation. Even on a hotline it is real people having a real time conversation (and my understanding is that it is Rabbi’s authorized to pasken).
An appropriate response would have been that you are of the opinion that…but that she needs to check with her rabbi or a posek.and what I already know about LB.
Please keep in mind that this is an anonymous forum, you have never actually met LB and when discussing halacha that may not be an adequate measure of factual information.Joseph is inappropriately misleading you.
bmyer is correct (100%) on both accounts
Thank you for that answer. It definitely makes sense. The only problem/shortfall with her response that she wouldn’t explain if it is indeed as you assume it (and I am assuming it is) is the assumption that the mods are making assumptions as opposed to stating facts.
“Several posters who mentioned that they “caught on to the truth” as you put it.”
In other words you have no answer to what you were answering to?
“And in so doing, inadvertently proved me right!”
By telling you that you are misjudging Joseph they are proving you right that he is really who you think he is?
whenever someone makes an incorrent assumption about someone.
I think several different mods on several different occasions have tried to correct this misperception of yours.Several what?
“those who argue with that said point.”
I was clear that the comment had nothing to do with my point being argued, it was about using that specific post to make that point. Those are two very different accusations and I will assume the mix up was unintentional.
There is no comparison between a chumra for tznius and over healthifying a cholent.
Regarding the rest of your post, it is outright false, and if anything I would say the reverse would have some truth to it more than that way.
It’s a bit hard to explain why in 8 years there has never been anyone able to “catch on” to the truth before now.