April 10, 2018 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #1504809slominerParticipant
Starting about two months ago I’ve started seeing delivery of a new frum newspaper called Lehovin. It reads like the English version of Hapeles. Does anyone know much about this?April 11, 2018 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #1505484
If I had to guess, I’d say it was being published by Agudas Bnei Torah of America.
If you’re curious enough, you can contact them and ask if that’s actually the case.April 13, 2018 9:50 am at 9:50 am #1506012
We throw it out, along with the marketeer, vues and other unsolicited materials left at the door.April 13, 2018 10:33 am at 10:33 am #1506022
From the few issues so far, it’s the best frum Jewish paper.April 14, 2018 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1506299smerelParticipant
From the name alone you can tell that it is a propaganda paper.April 15, 2018 7:17 am at 7:17 am #1506338a jerusalem dudeParticipant
WHY TEAR APART AMERICA? ISN’T THERE ENOUGH MACHLOKES ALREADY?! SHOULDN’T WE LEARN FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN ERETZ YISROEL?PLEASSSSSSSSSE-KEEP ERETZ YISROELS POLITICS TO THEM AND LET OUR RABBIS DEAL WITH OURS.October 27, 2018 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm #1611665
This week’s issue was very interesting.October 28, 2018 8:52 am at 8:52 am #1611759
we used this weeks issue as box filler for a return to lands end.October 28, 2018 9:41 am at 9:41 am #1611797
The FJJ has more paper waste for that purpose.October 28, 2018 10:48 am at 10:48 am #16118891Participant
It’s a very good newspaper.October 28, 2018 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm #1611991Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Lol, I have no idea what most of these things are that are being spoken of, but I think it’s hilarious how extremely some of you are reacting to a new newspaper showing up at your door.October 28, 2018 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1612037yzjParticipant
I wish they would make it 2-plyOctober 28, 2018 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1612034
Some 28 years ago there was a realistic opportunity to start in North America , Degel.
There were certain Community figures in NY Who were raring to go and gung ho
Rabbi Pam firmly And emphatically put down his foot declaring that in America There are no factions /divisions That is how it should remain and should not start
That became precedent respected and accepted by all
when a couple years later Deri wished
to start A branch of his faction in America
He was firmly told of this and indeed backed off and declined to do so
בנין נערים סתירה
These Youngsters Will now rend all that asunderOctober 28, 2018 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1612032manitouParticipant
It seems that it’s another Hapeles, just the fact that Joseph loves it tells me that it’s a hateful paper.October 28, 2018 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm #1612072
IITFT: This is a newspaper not a political party or community group. So your comparison is completely off.
If you’re concerned about their being another newspaper, you should be just as upset that there’s a Yated when we already have a Hamodia. After all, your argument is against another branch. Yated represents the Degel breakoff from the Agudah (which is represented by Hamodia) and yet Degel/Yated publishes in the United States despite your insistence otherwise.October 28, 2018 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #1612095
“I think it’s hilarious how extremely some of you are reacting to a new newspaper showing up at your door.”
Most weeks, it goes straight from the porch into paper recycling. this week, we had a need for box filler, so it made it a few feet into the house went into a box, and off to a UPS mailing center.
If we ever buy a hamster or a cat, im sure we would be happy to make use of the paper too. until then , it is just another waste of paper, that shows up on our porch.October 28, 2018 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #1612092
Joseph:The Yated in English Started In ’89 several years before any factionalist competition
Your plaint against Hamodia indeed will standOctober 28, 2018 8:27 pm at 8:27 pm #1612104Uncle BenParticipant
Joseph: The Yated in America predates the American Hamodia by a nice few years.October 28, 2018 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1612113
apy: What do you do with the unsolicited FJJ thrown at your door? Consistent with your first comment above about unsolicited materials left at the door?October 28, 2018 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #1612122
IITFT: Fair enough. So even according to your opinion Lehovin is no better or worse than Hamodia. Both Hamodia and Lehovin simply added another Jewish newspaper where one already previously existed.
As far as Hamodia vs. Yated is concerned, I’d probably argue that in reality Yated is the breakaway even in the U.S. since Hamodia started much earlier in Eretz Yisroel and Europe while Yated came much later as the official paper of the breakaway Degel movement, even though they branched off with a special US edition first.October 28, 2018 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1612131
IITFT: Another interesting tidbit regarding your historical account of how Maran HaGoen HaRav Pam zt’l prevented an American split following the Degel splitting off from the Agudah in Israel, HaGoen HaRav Aharon Schechter shlit”a prevented a similar American split in the past decade when Peleg split off from the Degel in Israel.October 29, 2018 7:20 am at 7:20 am #1612211eishsheliParticipant
First of all it was started by and is backed by plenty of gedolim and definitely better than all other news papers that consider themselves frum but in reality are full of hate and propaganda and just pushing agendas at least be happy that this is good and free the other are terrible and They still charge for itOctober 29, 2018 7:20 am at 7:20 am #1612205
This is a newspaper not a political party or community group. So your comparison is completely off.
Newspapers are often allied or associated with political parties or movements
(even when they’re not an official organ of the entity in question).October 29, 2018 8:40 am at 8:40 am #1612273
Randomex: Do you have evidence that this new paper is associated with any political entity?
Would you ascribe the U.S. Yated as being affiliated with Degel and the U.S. Hamodia as being affiliated with the Agudah?October 29, 2018 9:23 am at 9:23 am #1612286
That Hamodia is surely affiliated with the agudah should be obvious, although they gave Lichtenstein, a relative of theirs, a longer leash for North American audience
Lipschitz is a little bit more complicated he is pretty much independentOctober 29, 2018 9:23 am at 9:23 am #1612287
if I am not mistaken Rabbi Pam received the the yaTed in his own house
that might prove little though as all Roshe Y got them freeOctober 29, 2018 10:07 am at 10:07 am #1612363
Joseph is the publisher of Lehovin.October 29, 2018 10:56 am at 10:56 am #1612418
I republish my editorials from The Vues in it.October 29, 2018 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #1612575ToiParticipant
It’s obviously an eitz propaganda paper, c’mon Joe. They only write about eitz rabbonim. Your point about about R Aharon is entirely untrue, and ironic at best. vihameivin yavin.October 29, 2018 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #1613310
Toi: This week’s issue of Lehovin had a picture of Rav Chaim shlita and news from him.A few weeks ago it had the same about Rav Aharon Leib zt’l. These are just two of many examples. You’re completely incorrect about it being limited to only certain rabbonim.
And my earlier point about Rav Aharon shlita is accurate. When Peleg split from Degel there was a movement among American rabbonim to take one side regarding the dispute in Israel. Rav Ahron singlehandedly insured that the American Gedolim did not take any sides and continued honoring both sides in Israel as Gedolei Yisroel. It is almost an exact replica of what IITFT related regarding the story of Rav Pam zt’l having insured the American Gedolim didn’t take a side when the Degel rabbonim broke off from the Agudah and formed their own Moetzes, newspaper and political party. In both cases (decades ago during Rav Pam’s time and a few years ago under Rav Aharon) those pushing to take one side wanted to side with Degel. And both times, in the end, the Gedolim in chutz l’aaretz continued to equally honor both sides in the disagreement in Eretz Yisroel without siding with one over the other.October 30, 2018 10:28 am at 10:28 am #1613555Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
So, wait, in the name of not having partisan newspapers you guys are slandering this paper because it competes with the partisan newspapers you like?October 31, 2018 7:50 am at 7:50 am #1614277RR44Participant
When the suggestion was brought up in the Knesset to allow Israelis abroad to vote, Moron Harav Shach opposed it strongly – despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of chareidim abroad would have been able to take advantage of the law of return and then vote, and that few of our non religious brethren would vote. Moron Harav Shach said decisively there is enough machloikes in eretz Yisroel, we do not need export it to chutz la’aretz.October 31, 2018 8:31 am at 8:31 am #1614292
“we do not need export it to chutz la’aretz.”
Imagine what he would have said in todays era of social media and instant spreading of info.November 5, 2018 7:03 am at 7:03 am #1616974
My point was that newspapers often do have a particular political
view and are therefore indeed comparable to political entities.November 5, 2018 8:37 am at 8:37 am #1617024
Apparently this world be a close approximation of which paper is closest to which party:
Hamodia – Agudas Yisroel
Yated – Degel
Lehovin – Peleg/Bnei Torah
Jewish Press – Religious Zionists/MOSeptember 7, 2019 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #1784620
HaGaon HaRav Aharon Schechter shlita published a letter supporting Lehovin.September 8, 2019 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1784692GadolhadorahParticipant
For a change, Reb Yosef provides a reasonably accurate mapping of the editorial positions of various frum media to the political canvas.September 20, 2019 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm #1788398lowerourtuition11210Participant
It is thrown into my driveway without permission where it stays.September 20, 2019 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1788413roshvrishonParticipant
I agree with those that say we don’t need the מחלוקת exported here. those that are interested can easily find out what’s going on. I want to add one point about the discussion. I was told that the Hamodia came out while Moshe Sherer wasn’t well. He said that the 1st thing he will do when he gets back to work will be to shut down the Hamodia. Alas, he didn’t get back. This what I heard.September 20, 2019 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #1788467
Yated started out long after Hamodia in Eretz Yisroel. Presumably the naysayers here would advocate that the Yated should never have started in the first place as it was a response to their machlokes with the original Hamodia.September 21, 2019 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #1788486
LOT112: Do you leave the FJJ where it was thrown without permission?September 22, 2019 8:40 am at 8:40 am #1788546ChanagbParticipant
It is satmarSeptember 22, 2019 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1788586smerelParticipant
<i> I was told that the Hamodia came out while Moshe Sherer wasn’t well. He said that the 1st thing he will do when he gets back to work will be to shut down the Hamodia. Alas, he didn’t get back. This what I heard.</i>
Difficult to believe because Reb Moshe Sherer would have had little ability to close down Hamodia without making a MAJOR machlokes fight that he probably would have lost. Even had he won, the fight would have caused major damage and r two or three years later another Hamodia type paper would have opened anyhow.
According to his family and others who visited him during his final hospital stay, he said that if he gets better his next three projects are (1)kids at risk (2)Shidduchim (3) I’m not sure about this one but I think it was dealing with the increasing hostility to religion in American pseudo-intellectual liberal circlesSeptember 22, 2019 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #1788707
” Presumably the naysayers here would advocate that ”
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to the fact that’s the original paper has veered far from its own original agendaSeptember 22, 2019 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #1788713frishe kigelParticipant
lehovin is an eitz propaganda newspaper.
eitz is a faction that goes against the gedoilei had or and the one who started it was labelled by the sar hatorah ten Chaim kanievsky as a zoken mamrei and therefore no one should have anything to do with eitz.
anyone who receives it should shred it up as if it’s a treife newspaperSeptember 22, 2019 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #1788721YaapchikParticipant
Reportedly, Rav Aharon Shechter shlita is behind it!September 23, 2019 12:02 am at 12:02 am #1788771
lehovin makes great liner for the kitty box.September 23, 2019 9:13 am at 9:13 am #1788822
APY: Ehrlicher Yidden don’t have pets. Those who have pets takah wouldn’t appreciate an ehrlicher type of paper.September 23, 2019 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1789006GadolhadorahParticipant
Apashutayid: Reb Yosef is 100 percent with respect to cats (as one would expect from Reb Yosef) but chazal bring down that using this ehrlicher newspaper is totally appropriate for wrapping your favorite pet herring (or any other fish with fins and scales).September 26, 2019 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #1789991MominessParticipant
Theres nothing to read in any of the magazines or newspapers anyway. They are all just ads and empty articles that dont say much.
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