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  • #1504809

    slominer
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    Starting about two months ago I’ve started seeing delivery of a new frum newspaper called Lehovin. It reads like the English version of Hapeles. Does anyone know much about this?

    #1505484

    If I had to guess, I’d say it was being published by Agudas Bnei Torah of America.
    If you’re curious enough, you can contact them and ask if that’s actually the case.

    #1506012

    apushatayid
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    We throw it out, along with the marketeer, vues and other unsolicited materials left at the door.

    #1506022

    Joseph
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    From the few issues so far, it’s the best frum Jewish paper.

    #1506299

    smerel
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    From the name alone you can tell that it is a propaganda paper.

    #1506338

    a jerusalem dude
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    WHY TEAR APART AMERICA? ISN’T THERE ENOUGH MACHLOKES ALREADY?! SHOULDN’T WE LEARN FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN ERETZ YISROEL?PLEASSSSSSSSSE-KEEP ERETZ YISROELS POLITICS TO THEM AND LET OUR RABBIS DEAL WITH OURS.

    #1611665

    Joseph
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    This week’s issue was very interesting.

    #1611759

    apushatayid
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    we used this weeks issue as box filler for a return to lands end.

    #1611797

    Joseph
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    The FJJ has more paper waste for that purpose.

    #1611889

    1
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    It’s a very good newspaper.

    #1611991

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Lol, I have no idea what most of these things are that are being spoken of, but I think it’s hilarious how extremely some of you are reacting to a new newspaper showing up at your door.

    #1612037

    yzj
    Participant

    I wish they would make it 2-ply

    #1612034

    Some 28 years ago there was a realistic opportunity to start in North America , Degel.

    There were certain Community figures in NY Who were raring to go and gung ho
    Rabbi Pam firmly And emphatically put down his foot declaring that in America There are no factions /divisions That is how it should remain and should not start
    That became precedent respected and accepted by all

    when a couple years later Deri wished
    to start A branch of his faction in America
    He was firmly told of this and indeed backed off and declined to do so

    讘谞讬谉 谞注专讬诐 住转讬专讛

    These Youngsters Will now rend all that asunder

    #1612032

    manitou
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    It seems that it鈥檚 another Hapeles, just the fact that Joseph loves it tells me that it鈥檚 a hateful paper.

    #1612072

    Joseph
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    IITFT: This is a newspaper not a political party or community group. So your comparison is completely off.

    If you’re concerned about their being another newspaper, you should be just as upset that there’s a Yated when we already have a Hamodia. After all, your argument is against another branch. Yated represents the Degel breakoff from the Agudah (which is represented by Hamodia) and yet Degel/Yated publishes in the United States despite your insistence otherwise.

    #1612095

    apushatayid
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    “I think it鈥檚 hilarious how extremely some of you are reacting to a new newspaper showing up at your door.”

    Most weeks, it goes straight from the porch into paper recycling. this week, we had a need for box filler, so it made it a few feet into the house went into a box, and off to a UPS mailing center.

    If we ever buy a hamster or a cat, im sure we would be happy to make use of the paper too. until then , it is just another waste of paper, that shows up on our porch.

    #1612092

    Joseph:The Yated in English Started In ’89 several years before any factionalist competition
    Your plaint against Hamodia indeed will stand

    #1612104

    Uncle Ben
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    Joseph: The Yated in America predates the American Hamodia by a nice few years.

    #1612113

    Joseph
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    apy: What do you do with the unsolicited FJJ thrown at your door? Consistent with your first comment above about unsolicited materials left at the door?

    #1612122

    Joseph
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    IITFT: Fair enough. So even according to your opinion Lehovin is no better or worse than Hamodia. Both Hamodia and Lehovin simply added another Jewish newspaper where one already previously existed.

    As far as Hamodia vs. Yated is concerned, I’d probably argue that in reality Yated is the breakaway even in the U.S. since Hamodia started much earlier in Eretz Yisroel and Europe while Yated came much later as the official paper of the breakaway Degel movement, even though they branched off with a special US edition first.

    #1612131

    Joseph
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    IITFT: Another interesting tidbit regarding your historical account of how Maran HaGoen HaRav Pam zt’l prevented an American split following the Degel splitting off from the Agudah in Israel, HaGoen HaRav Aharon Schechter shlit”a prevented a similar American split in the past decade when Peleg split off from the Degel in Israel.

    #1612211

    eishsheli
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    First of all it was started by and is backed by plenty of gedolim and definitely better than all other news papers that consider themselves frum but in reality are full of hate and propaganda and just pushing agendas at least be happy that this is good and free the other are terrible and They still charge for it

    #1612205

    This is a newspaper not a political party or community group. So your comparison is completely off.

    Newspapers are often allied or associated with political parties or movements
    (even when they’re not an official organ of the entity in question).

    #1612273

    Joseph
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    Randomex: Do you have evidence that this new paper is associated with any political entity?

    Would you ascribe the U.S. Yated as being affiliated with Degel and the U.S. Hamodia as being affiliated with the Agudah?

    #1612286

    That Hamodia is surely affiliated with the agudah should be obvious, although they gave Lichtenstein, a relative of theirs, a longer leash for North American audience

    Lipschitz is a little bit more complicated he is pretty much independent

    #1612287

    Joseph,
    if I am not mistaken Rabbi Pam received the the yaTed in his own house
    that might prove little though as all Roshe Y got them free

    #1612363

    apushatayid
    Participant

    Joseph is the publisher of Lehovin.

    #1612418

    Joseph
    Participant

    I republish my editorials from The Vues in it.

    #1612575

    Toi
    Participant

    It’s obviously an eitz propaganda paper, c’mon Joe. They only write about eitz rabbonim. Your point about about R Aharon is entirely untrue, and ironic at best. vihameivin yavin.

    #1613310

    Joseph
    Participant

    Toi: This week’s issue of Lehovin had a picture of Rav Chaim shlita and news from him.A few weeks ago it had the same about Rav Aharon Leib zt’l. These are just two of many examples. You’re completely incorrect about it being limited to only certain rabbonim.

    And my earlier point about Rav Aharon shlita is accurate. When Peleg split from Degel there was a movement among American rabbonim to take one side regarding the dispute in Israel. Rav Ahron singlehandedly insured that the American Gedolim did not take any sides and continued honoring both sides in Israel as Gedolei Yisroel. It is almost an exact replica of what IITFT related regarding the story of Rav Pam zt’l having insured the American Gedolim didn’t take a side when the Degel rabbonim broke off from the Agudah and formed their own Moetzes, newspaper and political party. In both cases (decades ago during Rav Pam’s time and a few years ago under Rav Aharon) those pushing to take one side wanted to side with Degel. And both times, in the end, the Gedolim in chutz l’aaretz continued to equally honor both sides in the disagreement in Eretz Yisroel without siding with one over the other.

    #1613555

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    So, wait, in the name of not having partisan newspapers you guys are slandering this paper because it competes with the partisan newspapers you like?

    #1614277

    RR44
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    When the suggestion was brought up in the Knesset to allow Israelis abroad to vote, Moron Harav Shach opposed it strongly – despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of chareidim abroad would have been able to take advantage of the law of return and then vote, and that few of our non religious brethren would vote. Moron Harav Shach said decisively there is enough machloikes in eretz Yisroel, we do not need export it to chutz la’aretz.

    #1614292

    apushatayid
    Participant

    “we do not need export it to chutz la鈥檃retz.”

    Imagine what he would have said in todays era of social media and instant spreading of info.

    #1616974

    My point was that newspapers often do have a particular political
    view and are therefore indeed comparable to political entities.

    #1617024

    Joseph
    Participant

    Apparently this world be a close approximation of which paper is closest to which party:

    Hamodia – Agudas Yisroel
    Yated – Degel
    Lehovin – Peleg/Bnei Torah
    Jewish Press – Religious Zionists/MO

    #1784620

    Joseph
    Participant

    HaGaon HaRav Aharon Schechter shlita published a letter supporting Lehovin.

    #1784692

    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    For a change, Reb Yosef provides a reasonably accurate mapping of the editorial positions of various frum media to the political canvas.

    #1788398

    It is thrown into my driveway without permission where it stays.

    #1788413

    roshvrishon
    Participant

    I agree with those that say we don’t need the 诪讞诇讜拽转 exported here. those that are interested can easily find out what’s going on. I want to add one point about the discussion. I was told that the Hamodia came out while Moshe Sherer wasn’t well. He said that the 1st thing he will do when he gets back to work will be to shut down the Hamodia. Alas, he didn’t get back. This what I heard.

    #1788467

    Joseph
    Participant

    Yated started out long after Hamodia in Eretz Yisroel. Presumably the naysayers here would advocate that the Yated should never have started in the first place as it was a response to their machlokes with the original Hamodia.

    #1788486

    Joseph
    Participant

    LOT112: Do you leave the FJJ where it was thrown without permission?

    #1788546

    Chanagb
    Participant

    It is satmar

    #1788586

    smerel
    Participant

    <i> I was told that the Hamodia came out while Moshe Sherer wasn鈥檛 well. He said that the 1st thing he will do when he gets back to work will be to shut down the Hamodia. Alas, he didn鈥檛 get back. This what I heard.</i>

    Difficult to believe because Reb Moshe Sherer would have had little ability to close down Hamodia without making a MAJOR machlokes fight that he probably would have lost. Even had he won, the fight would have caused major damage and r two or three years later another Hamodia type paper would have opened anyhow.

    According to his family and others who visited him during his final hospital stay, he said that if he gets better his next three projects are (1)kids at risk (2)Shidduchim (3) I’m not sure about this one but I think it was dealing with the increasing hostility to religion in American pseudo-intellectual liberal circles

    #1788707

    Joseph,

    ” Presumably the naysayers here would advocate that ”

    agree that things should be different when a majority Subscribe
    to the fact that’s the original paper has veered far from its own original agenda

    #1788713

    frishe kigel
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    lehovin is an eitz propaganda newspaper.
    eitz is a faction that goes against the gedoilei had or and the one who started it was labelled by the sar hatorah ten Chaim kanievsky as a zoken mamrei and therefore no one should have anything to do with eitz.
    anyone who receives it should shred it up as if it’s a treife newspaper

    #1788721

    Yaapchik
    Participant

    Reportedly, Rav Aharon Shechter shlita is behind it!

    #1788771

    apushatayid
    Participant

    lehovin makes great liner for the kitty box.

    #1788822

    Joseph
    Participant

    APY: Ehrlicher Yidden don’t have pets. Those who have pets takah wouldn’t appreciate an ehrlicher type of paper.

    #1789006

    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Apashutayid: Reb Yosef is 100 percent with respect to cats (as one would expect from Reb Yosef) but chazal bring down that using this ehrlicher newspaper is totally appropriate for wrapping your favorite pet herring (or any other fish with fins and scales).

    #1789991

    Mominess
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    Theres nothing to read in any of the magazines or newspapers anyway. They are all just ads and empty articles that dont say much.

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