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December 10, 2009 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm in reply to: Children and Prizes–Hindering Intrinsic Self Worth #669815
to all you old timers out there bemoaning the state of the world today…GET OVER THE OLD DAYS!!! in the old days you could buy the pyramids for a dime…in the old days there was nothing wrong with taking a paddle to a child…in the old times, you didn’t have fast food…in the old times you had harder ways for doing easier things…WE UNDERSTAND!!! however, these days a dime gets you northing…these days most gedolim say that hitting kids is extremely counter productive…these days getting ready for shabbos involves spending 10 minutes in a meal mart…these days we have washing machines…THESE DAYS KIDS NEED MORE POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT! its as simple as that. times change. what may have worked for you a millennium ago, no longer works. gnash your gums in anger all you want…but times change. get over it.December 10, 2009 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm in reply to: Children and Prizes–Hindering Intrinsic Self Worth #669811
true…but try explaining that to a kid
you could call shomrim if they were throwing history books out the window at people…December 10, 2009 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm in reply to: Children and Prizes–Hindering Intrinsic Self Worth #669807
you all talk of the torah as a book of obligations. obligation denotes burden. the object of constant positive reinforcement is to make it seem more of a privilege to follow the torah
go learn :D:D:D
you say that you views are non denominational. for jews this is all well and good…we can all (ideally) learn all day. goyim however dont have that option what would they do? after high school go to 4 EXTRA years of college because their high school education was bare bones??? your idea is completely impractical, and childish. also, aside from goyim, jews too have to get jobs. high paying jobs. first of all because we have big families, and second of all, because kollelim thrive on donors. if we all are sitting in kolel because when we get into college we fall behind, who will support the kollelim? ela mai…you say if people want that kind of education in college…college is tedious enouigh without having to learn high school material.
as for science, yes. let’s open that can of worms. there is nothing wrong with the learning of science. absolutely nothing. there is something wrong with SCIENTISTS not science. learning in intricate detail, about how everything works together so perfectly, and so mathematically exact, makes a person appreciate mah rabu maasecha hashem. the only problem with science would be they way it is presented. if it is presented from the point of view that god is a completely arbitrary entity and not to be understood, and therefore if you do understand why things happen…that disproves god, then yes! science is wrong! if however you simply learn how perfect our world, and how things work and why they work, and how hashem set our world in motion and keeps it in motion, it can be an incredible boost to your emunah.
lolDecember 9, 2009 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm in reply to: You Know You’ve Been Spending Too Much Time in The YWN Coffee Room When…. #1119514
…when you turn blonde :D:D:D
wow! thats not gonna happen…
suppose a kid is not such a ba’al kishron? suppose he will need to go to college to get a job? why rob him of his future?
lol indeed! you know if he wanted to force businesses to expand, he should have financed them. all businesses. not just the barely solvent car companies. instead of spending a trillion dollars on nothing, and now proposing stimulus 2.0…he could have given that money to individual businesses…thus enabling them to expand, which would create new jobs.
^yeah that. Icanonlytry: science brings true understanding of ma rabu maasecha hashem, why cut it? history is very important. we have to know why things happen, how government was formed, how cobnflicts were created the resolved…al this is very imoportant! it is important to know about our world.
exactly. cut out the middle man, i.e. the government working through insurance companies, and bang! you just saved a bundle. (of course i just saved a bundle by switching to geico:D a fifteen minute call can save you fifteen percent on car insurance. geico. :D:D:D lol)
^yeah that. that being said, a big part of the stigma is lack of awareness and education on the matter. most people’s minds, when they hear that someone went to a psychiatrist or psychologist, automatically jump to “NUTSO!!!” that is because they dont know what the functions of such trained professionals are, and they dont know the myriad of reasons that a person may see said professionals. granted you do have your extreme cases out there, bipolar…schizophrenia…whatever, but there are normay everyday reasons a person may see a psychologist or psychiatrist. stress. insomnia. recurring nightmares. there are a whole host of reasons that these professionals exist. if people knew and understood that, the stigma would be lessened.
i was talking to my chavrusa last night about this and he brought up a good point. for all the supposed disadvantages that frum schools have, frum kids score in the top margins on standardized tests. we have fewer distractions in our school environment to take our focus off our studies. that being said, MaKesher brings up an excellent point. the lack of derech eretz in frum schools is astounding. one major problem, is that secular studies is seen by many of the students as beneath their dignity. they want to learn all day, and that is admirable but there is a time for everything. and even if if secular studies is useless pointless and a waste of time, that doesnt mean that the teachers, who are only doing their job, have to take abuse for it.
i was listening to WABC today and Mark Simone made a good point. we already have several forms of government healthcare in place. nameley…medicare…medicade…veterans health…among others. the infrastructure is in place, why not extend the program and its funding?
you get my point…
:D:D:D lol heres the chakirah…is it a din in the caffiene…or a din in the coffee…
nope…im just your friendly neighborhood bombmaniac :D:D:December 8, 2009 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm in reply to: You Know You’ve Been Spending Too Much Time in The YWN Coffee Room When…. #1119510
when your hashkafos go out the window:)
hes already married:) but yes…smoking is a drain on the health and budget
lol it tastes good for the first five latkes…but after the fifteenth? forget it! just gimme the latke!!!
lol he’s now very annoyed i actually took the deal…the withdrawal is killing him :D:D:D
you want advanced chem bio math and programming to be taught in high schools?? sheesh…well, even in public where the whole budget goes to secular studies, those are optional…or on an honors track…heres how it worked where i went. we learned what we needed for the regents. then, we had the option to take a course in microsoft office. later, we had the option of taking calculus. i dont know if you mean that the advanced stuff should be mandatory or not…but think about it this way. first of all…a public school has a bigger budget. second of all, they have nothing to spend that budget on [strong]BUT[/strong] more programs. third of all, as important as secular studies (and it is important…), you still need to leave time for limudei kodesh. it is after all a yeshiva…the emphasis must be on limudei kodesh. if its the education offered at Stuyvesant you’re after…then go there.
lol yair weinstock much…?
lol…if you are only having 3 cups a day…clearly you arent learning enough :D:D:D
i have a GREAT idea for a jewish novel…how about, a kolel guy who somehow gets involved in a plot with the FBI…CIA…NSA…DOD…KGB…MI6…MI5…GSS…MOSSAD…COS…DCPJ…ASIS…FSB…INTERPOL…BND…CSIS and a few others…and he holds a piece of kugel in which is a piece of pepper that is really a microfil containing the identity of the man who really shot kennedy…and somehow his rosh yeshiva comes in at the last minute on a private jet, and figures it all out based on a goral hagra…sounds good?:D:D:D
ronrsr: LOL we backed up the mormons because they dress like us…lol
heres a one word recipe…MOTTS!!!
hehehe tell your wife her place is in the kitchen and see how long it takes before she hits you in the face with a golf club…lol anyway, while housekeeping skills are important, so is a strong knowledge of tanach. think about…a mother is the main teacher of a child until they get into about third grade…
um…well…you would need a trade or technical school to learn that stuff…and we are talking about high school…but i agree. limudei chol is taken as a joke in frum schools. SO MUCH SO THAT IN MY NINTH GRADE CLASS…PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY THROW ORANGE PEELS AT THE TEACHER!!! EVEN THOUGH HE WAS FRUM!!! WHERE IS THE DERECH ERETZ???
oomis: :D:D:D ROTFLOL!!! its just the sheer stupidity and narrow-mindedness that would lead to the idea that colored shirts would be assur…to come to such a conclusion takes real talent 😀
WHAT THE BLEEP DOES THE COLOR OF YOUR SHIRT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! SERIOUSLY!!! its a serious problem! people have become so caught up with their perception of what is right…its scary! i know people who if they see a guy in a colored shirt smoking they say “bum!” white shirt? “oh he’s just taking a break” its ridiculous! the color of your shirt means nothing about who you are. you can have a complete menuval in a white shirt, and the best bochur in (well, if he was lakewood he’d be wearing white…no?:D) chofetz chaim;D wearing a colored shirt! why would it even enter your mind that it should be assur?!? do you not wear a tie on shabbos?!? is it plain black?!? its become a game of perception. you are percieved as a ben torah if you wear a white shirt, and a bum if you dont. frankly its disgusting! like many people above have mentioned…back in the day EVERYONE WORE COLORED SHIRTS!!! COLORED SUITS…COLORED HATS…!!! WERE THEY BUMS???
lol waddaya gonna do…
you get my point…and by the way…wrestling DOES involve bodily harm. you have to tire out your opponent, and that often involves throwing them around like a sack of flour…
i dont just mean those that need the internet to learn…i mean for people who are on the internet anyway at that time of the day i.e. work. although that may be considered as if he cant learn any other way…but you get my point. this provides for a nice alternative to filth
lol it IS a pagan holiday. think about it…a tree??? what the heck does that have to do with jesus??? he wasnt even born then…he was born anywhere from march to may…christmas as it is was set to combine the pagan holiday “sol invictus” meaning the invinsible sun, becasue it was the date of th supposed sun god mithras…and because december 25th is after the shortest day of the year which marks the return or strengthening of the sun, and the “feast of saturnalia” which was a feast in the honor of the supposed roman god of agriculture, which went from december 17th to the 23rd. the idea was to make christianity more appealing as it was forced on the pagans. in fact…constantine at the council of Nicaea changed the historical record to indicate that he was born on the 25th! wow…and they claim they are the true religion…go figure…
anyway, i just use “happy holidays”. its safe…and now accepted as politically correct.
heres something i heard from rabbi dovid orlofsky. too many people are worried about sending their kids to “the best” school out there…because its a matter of their personal pride. the parent wants to be able to boast about the school his son goes to…or parade him in front of the envious neighbors…but they give very little thought to the actual needs of the child! if sending your kid to a lower level yeshiva that is not seen by the world as ” the best” then so be it! remember, the school your kid goes to has nothing to do with whats best for you. its whats best for him!
variations by gershon veroba…impressions by gershon veroba…
ok. leitzonus aside, jewish music…(and by that, for all you idiots out there…i mean shwekeyish and your standard mainstream frum composers…) with english words is perfectly fine. plain music…be it from a jewish or non jewish composer…essentially has nothing wrong with it. as an extention of that, there is nothing wrong with taking a non jewish song and amking it jewish by changing the theme and lyrics. many old time niggunim are written originally written by non jews.
when it comes to non jewish music with words, the story changes. MANY (not all) non jewish songs these days are atrocious, with such sexually explicit lyrics, that would they be turned into a movie, they would be rated XXX. therefore in GENERAL (please note…in GENERAL) they are all assur. that being said, just because a non jew writes a song, and its lyrics…does NOT make it assur! take Guns N’ Roses – Cats In The Cradle for example. the lesson in that song is applicable to everyone, jews and non jews alike. there are no sexual references in that song at all. it is a song that tells fathers to spend more time with their sons. is there anything wrong with that?
now that that is established…back to the subject at hand. a jew should NOT be playing non jewish music with lyrics in his place of business. there is no reason for it, but if he IS, before judging, listen to the lyrics before making your objections. it may be a completely acceptable song.
when it comes to non jews. a jew walking into the place of business of a non jew, has no right to complain about the music, unless it is generally offensive (i.e…it has explicit sexuality in the song) it is their business, and if you dont like it, walk out. there is a story (i think it was about rav moshe…) he got into a cab, and the driver was playing non jewish music on his radio. the talmid that was with him was about to ask the driver to turn it off, when his rebbi stopped him. the basic idea was…this is what he does…he drives around in this car all day…who are we to deprive him of this simple pleasure.
like someone said above (forgive me for not quoting you directly) if you feel so strongly about it, then get an ipod, and listen to that.
on the subject of christmas carols. many of them don’t even reference christmas at all! i see no reason why anyone would find them offensive at all! for example…”jungle bells” just talks about a sleigh ride…whats wrong with that? or “let it snow” is a song about how cold it is outside! whats wrong with that? i am not advocating playing that in your house…but honestly, what is there to get so worked up about?
as for songs that directly reference christmas…if you are sooooooooooo offended by that…than get an ipod.
merry chanukah ;D;D;D
Guns ‘N Roses? Don’t know about that. “Cat’s In the Cradle” was a #1 hit for Harry Chapin. – Moderator 77
heres 2 of things i find funny about smoking.
i’d say in 99% of cases, people start smoking young, and when they start they are condemned by almost everyone they know. but then later in life it becomes ok…i have no idea why.
have you ever noticed how people often drink coffee and smoke at the same time? lol 2 addictive habits at once…great going…
this next part is anything but funny.
many yeshiva bochurim start smoking in high school…dont bother arguing, ive seen it. in high school…in your average yeshivish yeshiva, the english department is seen as a joke. it is seen as something not worth paying attention to. the teachers of secular studies are seen as bums, and not worthy of the respect of the bochurim. many bochurim go and learn during secular studies, (which is a complete abomination, and their learning is worthless during that time) because they see it as bitul zman. AND YET THEY SEE NO PROBLEM IN SMOKING!!! talk about bitul zman!!! wow! the average smoker spends at LEAST an hour a day smoking! if not two! between the shmuzing…the coffee dringing…and whatnot, WHY IS THAT NOT SEEN AS A BITUL ZMAN?!? the answer is because (and this is going a bit off topic here, but equally important…)your average bochur defines bitul zman as whatever he sees as bitul zman. many of them see secular studies as a complete waste of time…and by doing so they think they are greater than many of the gedolei hador who allowed and even advocated secular studies in jewish schools. WHO DO THESE BOCHURIM THINK THEY ARE??? if eminent gedolim could give a psak, that secular studies is so necessary as to take up to 3 hours out of a budding talmid chacham’s day, who does some high school shnook think he is to say otherwise? see my point? if people truly understood bitul zman they wouldnt smoke.
anyway, yes smoking is very addictive, and the withdrawl is very terrible. it is very hard to break a physical addiction. what a person needs is real self control, and more than that…a goal. for example: up to last week i used to watch movies. i no longer do. why? well, one night me and my chavruse were sitting and learning, and we got onto the subject of me watching movies. he was very opposed to me watching movies, and said i should stop. i said (in a joking manner…) “fine…if you stop smoking”. he suddenly got serious, and said “fine”. he set himself a goal. he felt, that me watching movies was so damaging to myself, that he would smoking if it would get ME to stop watching movies…and so far its working.
thats what a person needs to stop smoking. a goal. set yourself a goal, agoal that means something to you, and you will have something to look forward to every time you think about lighting up again 😀
please pardon my rant above…but it is true and needs to be expressed. the state of frum high schools in brooklyn is absolutely disgusting.
boxing is essentially the same as the wrestling, and athletic competitions as the greeks staged back in the day…AND JUST AS ASSUR TODAY!
this whole topic is stupid…DON’T OVERDRAW!!! ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!! IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE MONEY DON’T SPEND IT!!! last week i heard a speech from Rabbi Moshe Meir Weiss, in which he said, that as abhorrent as we all find Esav, we all have a part of his middos in us (albeit a dakei dakos…). Esav was called Edom because of when he told Yaakov “give me this red stuff now!” he didnt look to see what it was, whether it was lentils, or whatever…he just wanted it. and he wanted it NOW!!! are you beginning to see the point? coming onto the overdraft protection because “the deals are just so darn good, and i just gotta have this now!” is on a certain level the middah if Esav! CALM DOWN!!! you live all year without a black friday sale…live for another week. the deals will still be there until January first! calm down, learn to have patience and you will have a calmer more peaceful life. besides…Marbeh N’chasim…Marbe D’agah :D:D:D
granted. everyone who has used the internet has seen inappropriate material. but i have to disagree with your analogy.
in today’s world, internet is necessary, and if you disagree, you’re not normal, or a liar :D:D:D (just kidding) but it is a very necessary and essential tool in today’s world. therefore, everybody has it. now i ask you…if a person is to use the internet, wouldn’t you rather have them on a site such as this? or at torahanytime? or aish.com? or the shmuz.com? wouldnt that be ideal? granted there is bad on the internet and plenty of it…but to say that torah cannot be discussed on it because it has the potential to be bad is absurd! thats like saying that the Hamodia shouldn’t exist, because it is a newspaper and so is the new york post! its ridiculous! everything, and everybody in this world has the potential to be good or bad. why should we not work to make the internet a good place to be? why not make Torah sites just as inviting to people if not more so than the inappropriate sites?