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talking fish much?:D:D:D
As I said…and by the way…moderator…smoking IS a disgusting habit.
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call the ASPCA
yes. the response is “thanks for coming…your presence is costing me 100 dollars pay up!” lol but seriously a good response is “IY”H by you”
lol that IS what i told him…he said thats an aveirah because its putting your life in danger. i told him that smoking statistically also does. he said that the rabbonim paskaned its not assur…therefore theres no problem with it…like i said smokers come up with the most ingenious purim torah
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is labor not painful? but is the joy afterward not greater?
i know shuls that use that for unesaneh tokef…
golus mitzrayim MBD, and i think yerushalayim is a very uplifting song also MBD
i know about anorexia and bulimia…thats not my point. im saying habits arent a mental health issue! schools should have psychologists for different reasons…and as for stigma, theyd be forced to do an evaluation…but until a person reaches a certain level of maturity and understanding they will still see it as a stigma
they cant do it because as much as they may want to, it would hurt their cridibility.not that theyd be wrong…but because they’d be ignored by most of the frum world. smokers have a very st5rong ability to rationalize their actions…its quite amazing…they’d therefore come to the conclusion that the rabbis were off their rockers…or misled by some zealot.
i was talking to a smoker recently and he said the most amazing bit of purim torah…he said that since smoking isnt assur…and “hakol d’yedai shomayim chutz miyiras hashem”…therefore since hes doing nothing wrong, he couldnt possible die from smoking…any questions???
LOL how about money…lol 😀
heres a chanukah theme…OOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL!!! DONUTS!!! CREAM CAKES!!! THE MOST HEART STOPPING, ARTERRY CLOGGING…CORONARY INDUCING FOODS OUT THERE!!!
yes…in fact there was a story that go me thinking…mishpacha magazine published a story in which it said that there was a rabbi that was liaising with the pope to try and get us back the klei kodesh taken by titus and kept in the vatican. IMAGINE!!! THE ACTUAL KEILIM USED IN THE BEIS HAMIKDASH!!! talk about the olympic torch taking a world route…imagine how amazing that world tour would be! people would follow them all around the globe back to their plaxce in eretz yisrael! there would be danciung in the streets! THE KEILIM OF THE BEIS HAMIKDASH!!! that is but a taste of the jubilation that would be when moshiach comes and the beis hamikdash is rebuilt to its full glory!
another thing…bus drivers. they do us a great service. many people take it for granted, and grumble when it comes late…:D but remember the transit strike? wasnt that a pain in the neck…(and feet :D:D:D) i always make it a point when i exit the bus to thank the driver and wish him a good day
i wouldnt say weak…id say not strong enough. it takes a lot of self control and a strong will to quit smoking, as the symptoms of withdrawal are not just mental but physical. as for whether its a mental health issue…not at all. is eating donuts a mental health issue? is eating latkes on chanukah a mental health issue? is j-walking a mental illness? you get my point…as for support, there definitely should be support available in yeshivos where smoking is an issue. even high schools that dont “officially” allow smoking, but where the hanhallah knows its a problem should have support available for students who want to quit. as for schools having psychologsts on premises…it would only work in a senior beis medrash (3rd year or above…) before then i believe the stigma would prevent students from taking advantage of the services available.
lol i guess this topic was just an EPPIC PHAIL!!!
theres a woman who made a HUGE list of recommended reading for jewish kids….ill post back here with info how to get it…
have it burnt offf.lasered off…frozen off…(liquid nitrogen)…
apparently you have too much time on your hands…GO LEARN!!!
(and if you happen to be a woman…i know go learn is a wierd suggestion…heres an alternative…GO COOK!!! :D)
i did not say that, but now that we are sort of on the same page, let me explain. a person who sees himself as so above others, does not care what other people think of him, because in his eyes he is already perfect. a person who thinks himself worthless, (not that they SHOULD not act to gain respect from others…) is so downtrodden, so down on himslef, that you just cant get any lower. therefore, no matter how low others think he is, it pales in comparison to the low he feels about himself. therefore, the balance is to have enough confidence to know that he is worth something, but not to be so full of himself as to not care about what others think of him. i think i have made myself quite clear.
ok…self esteem is your opinion of yourself, how you feel about yourself. a person who thinks they are worthless has low self esteem. a person who has confidence in himself has a normal or high self esteem. self worth is the feeling that your actions can and will get you respect from others. that being said…a person who feels very highly about himself, but has no feeling that his actions will influence other’s opinion of him…has no reason to ever do anything, because its not relevant…no matter what he does hes perfect in his own eyes. on the other hand, a person with no self esteem will not have any self worth because if he sees himself as a person not worth respecting he sees no reason why others would respect him, and therefore has no reason to care for his actions.
and THAT^is why you should never say anything if you have no idea about the subject…first of all, myspace, is going out of style…twitter i agree is for ******…but facebook, you DO get to choose who you want to talk to…in fact, now trhat they updated the security options…you have even MORE control over who you wanna talk to!
^yeah that…and haifagirl…you gotta admit that it sounds like a window…how else are they gonne getting it on the head…unless it was yao ming…lol
i agree…my grandparents for example didnt have a shadchan…my grandmother was my grandfather’s secretary, and he just walked in one day holding a ring and said “what would you say if i asked you to marry me ?” and (after consulting with her mother of course…) she agreed, and they were married for 47 years…imagine if she had said “no there was no shadchan present…” what then?
and here i was thinking i had made myself clear…i have no idea what you disnt understand about my answer…
my point exactly…its all about striking a perfect balance.
self esteem is a feeling of pride in yourself. self worth is the feeling that you can gain respect from others. if you have self esteem without self worth, then you walk around being a self absorbed jerk. however, without some self esteem, you will never feel that you are worthy of the respect of others…you see? a balance
thank you for clarifying about the window 😀 but thatis how you made it sound…
dont bash self esteem…self esteem, and self worth (like everything else in this world) needs to be balanced. basically this concept is the concept of gadlus ha’adam. that a person has tremendous kochos, and can do great things, but he has to understand that he can do the…that he is good enough, and strong enough to do them. that is my understanding of the balance.
^yeah that! the person i know went through a bunch of different medicines until they found the right blend. in fact..they ended up taking LESS medicine because they found a different drug that was more effective in less quantities. it may be hard now, but stick it out. it will get better 😀
personally i dont see what the problem is…they wanna have a party? let them :D:D:D
heres the way i see it. to go out of your way to talk to the opposite gender can be wrong. but here they just met! he’s sitting there changing a tire…what are they supposed to do? just ignore each other? picture for example youre at a friends house, and they have a sibling your age or around your age…are you supposed ignore any attempt at converstaion? thats just plain rude…the circumstances are such that its simply polite. as for the call, why not? a person gives you a gift, the polite thing is to call up and thank them same gender or not.
we get so caught up in the avoiance of the opposite gender that we lose sight of basic decency. true to arbitrarily just walk up to someone of the opposite gender and strike up a conversation may be assur…but if youre in a situation where ignoring each other just makes it akward for the both of you…there is no reason not to talk…its just being polite. another example, is people who go to coed colleges. while they should try to minimize interaction with the opposite gender, its simply unavoidable! to ignore them would simply be rude.
i think the bachur was just being polite, and that the shadchan just messed up a perfect opportunity
just because you cant get a date…web site assisted or not does NOT mean others shouldnt try by any means possible.
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with Hashem’s help you shouldnt have to suffer either 🙂
that is such a disgusting thing to say! please keep your immaturity at bay…a shadchan fee is standard and quite mandatory! who cares if its from a web site or a person? it is still owed!
um…so you advocate the occasional use of drugs…eh?
um…its not every song…there are many origionally composed songs out there…and why not? it makes life easier 😀
the type of book is irrelevant…its a crime to throw anything on anyones head
sheesh…i have already said in a previous post, and i quote…”doesnt matter if they were jewish or not! call the cops! ” i am just saying, that there IS a clear distinction between public school kids and yeshiva kids where i live…no need to go postal…
lol point taken moderator…maybe we should have a topic on impetuousness, and impatience :D:D:D ok…now that i have read the post…lol here goes…
high school is a critical time in a person’s life. they decide what the will DO with the rest of their life. elementary school subjects are very easy…the biggest slacker, and the dumbest kid in the class can ace elementary school. in high school, by offering a more full and challenging curriculum you give the students a taste for what they will be in for, when they choose a profession to study for in college. dumbing down or cutting back on limudei chol would just give students a false sense of security going into college. they will have aced all their tests, and college will hit them like a runaway train. by giving them the courses that are now given, they can get a feel for what they are good at, and what they aren’t good at. its not just a matter of affinity and exposure…to reduce the curriculum would give them a false sense of hope. i saw this in the transition from 8th grade to 9th limudei kodesh. in 8th grade we did basic gemarah, rashi and a few tosafos. many of my classmates, when they came to 9th grade were in for a shock! they had never heard of rashba or ritva in their life! and to do all the tosafos on the page??? the horor! you see? they were put at a disadvantage because they were coming from an 8th grade where the curriculum was way under the level of what it would become. in doing so the elementary school was putting them at a serious disadvantage. the same would be true if we cut back on the current curriculum. true, in the short term they will benefit…less homework time…higher grades…more learning time…but it would all be a delusion, because when they get to college, the sheer amount and difficulty of the classes will overwhelm them.
kudos on the ASCII art! I love it! have a great shabbos and a very merry chanukah HAH! OR ELSE!!!
personally, i live in boro park, where the world is split into two very clear groups public school kids and yeshivah kids, and the two are clearly recognizable as such. so, i apologize for any possible generalization, its just where i live, that generalization is clear
i myself have no mental illness but i live with someone who is bipolar so i hope this will help.
please keep in mind, that i dont know you, so this posting isnt tailor made for you, im just sharing my experiences.
first of all, you have to come to grips with the fact that you have a mental illness. once you accept that fact, you are better equipped to deal with it in your everyday life.
second of all, while i can understand why you may want to keep it secret from the world at large, it is important to have a few people who know about it, and who you can talk to and confide in.
third of all, it is important to take any prescribed medicine.
fourth it is extremely important to see a therapist and be very open with said therapist.
i understand that it can be a huge struggle living with a mental illness in daily life…i see it every day. but with these four steps it becomes an easier burden to bear.
like i said i dont know you or your condition, but from what i see, there are two things that help people. one, is to throw themselves into whatever they are doing at the moment, completely, and focus on nothing else, and another is when you feel a manifestation of whatever illness you may have coming on, call one of the people who you feel comfortable confiding in…and talk to them.
i hope this helps you.
that depends on your definition of every little thing. and yes, eventually the positive reinforcement has to change…a keychain whistle wont work when a kid is 17…but praise does.
^yeah that. but ICOT…you have been advocating a change all this time…why dont you set out exactly what the curriculum would be under the ICOT administration.
Bomb, he set out his ideas for curriculum change in his first post on the subject. You need to read posts before responding to them, (as has been pointed out to you previously.) 🙂
doesnt matter if they were jewish or not! call the cops!
true…but it is still a prevailing attitude
of course…my point was simply that the attitude back in the day was completely different…
granted. but on the other hand…if you really want the old way…then lets give rebbis paddles…t5he point is, that as much as we would like things to stay the way they were, they will not and cannot. times change, and methods must be reconsidered. positive reinforcement is a very effective tool, rather than fear of reprisal. its the difference between serving hashem out of fear of burning in hell, and serving hashem for the reward of gan eden, and for the approval of hashem. a person living in fear is more likely to rebel. that being said, i am not advocating full latitude for students. there still has to be a strong presence of authority in the chinuch of children. its about striking a perfect balance. a rebbi should be friendly with his students in order to encourage a kesher, but at the same time making it clear that they are above their students in terms of respect and authority. in the old days students used to respect their rebbeim because they saw the greatness in them. today’s world is a much more indifferent world. and a much more “equal” world. today many students see it as “what makes you better than me??? after all im paying your salary!!!” because of this attitude, the methods of chinuch have had to change. it used o be if a rebbi hit a student he would feel bad about what he did and never do it again. today, he’d hit back, and call the cops. so in essence…all we HAVE today is positive reinforcement…