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double post: judge me!
anyway…i can share my experience wondering “what if i werent frum”
everyone thinks it at one point or another…especially now when were so exposed to secular life.
when i was around 16 i used to wonder what it would be like to have a girlfriend. so one day im online and someone messages me asking for advice. he tells me that hes filling out an application to work at an upper class camp in maine an theres a question about mental health. theyre asking if hes ever had psychiatric treatment or has any mental illnesses. so i ak him if hes had…and he tells me that when he was 16 he attempted suicide by hanging because his girlfriend had dumped him. i instantly appreciated those halachos.
how about shabbos. i used to dislike shabbos for the same reason that everyone who dislikes shabbos, dislikes shabbos. it was boring. oh my goodness! shabbos ending at 9:30! what even! i would seriously go out of my mind every shabbos if my friends werent home because i so desperately wanted to turn on my computer and entertain myself…i never did, but i really wanted to. and then i got a job. and my life went to the dogs. all of a sudden i had responsibilities, obligations, problems, worries…AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
mind you i was 17! most people dont get jobs until theyre out of beis medrash…i was thrust into all this a little bit early in my life! but shabbos took on a new meaning. now when i walked through the streets on shabbos and saw goyim running for busses, taking on cellphones, driving to shopping centers, cleaning their porches, working on cars, or even playing handball…i would smile. i would almost laugh…because i imagine how miserable their lives must be if they NEVER have the opportunity to just leave it all behind and REST! never experience menuchas hanefesh…never experience a day without worry…to never just sit back…and enjoy life in its simplicity. ever studied hilchos shabbos? thats about 5 billion “no”s appreciated right there 🙂 i can go on…but im hungry and bored.
“It’s hard, and i’m kinda just fed up with fighting and in the struggle i’m coming across all sorts of questions which i never did have in earlier years “
so go ask someone. i would have had a thread about what you just said BUT MOD 80 deleted the submission because he felt I was bashing rabbonim…which i wasnt…
you obviously dont know the answer to your questions or you wouldnt be bothered by them anymore. you can try and find the answers on your own but youre already biased by your own desires. so go ask someone. if youre in high school, ask your rebbi or rosh yeshiva (depending on who you made a kesher with) if youre in beis medrash, ask a shoel umashiv, rebbi, or rosh yeshiva. (again depending on who you made a kesher with) if youre out of beis medrash then ask YOUR rav. if youre out of HS and beis medrash you should already have a rav with whom you feel comfortable discussing anything and everything. if not…aseh l’cha rav 🙂
you gain nothing by harbouring questions within your heart…i know people who are off the derech today because they held their questions in for so long taht they became unanswerable. years later they wander into a kiruv place, mention their “big problem with judaism) and get a REALLY simple answer in return…and boom. inner conflict. because the question was so big, the answer was so small…and theyre already used to life as it is. seriously…if you have questions about self identity, religious identity, emuna, hashkafa, yahadus etc…go ask someone.
as for the beauty in yahadus…in my opinion that is something that can only be experienced individually..not shown. you can be invited to every rav’s house for shabbos, attend every tish or hachnassas sefer torah, but unless you come up with your own understanding and appreciation for it…it all rolls off you like water off a ducks back. you get appreciation for yahadus, like i said earlier, by living. thats not to say that others cant facilitate your appreciation…but it cant be “given” it must be experienced. (IMO)
“however if that is the case, I have some amazing younger girls up my sleeve…”
you keep girls up your sleeves…?
*backs away slowly*
lol yes…joseph
maybe for them its enough to use plastic etc…but when it comes to hachnassas orchim they pull out all the stops
i didnt say it was justified…i just said that it could be a possible reason
i think the better question would be “what” is joseph. i think that he is actually a highly sophisticated piece of software designed to troll frum forums.
and stalk frum girls.
for goodness sake…i was asking for your opinion…not being critical…
some people…
just saw that adorable is engaged on another thread…first of all MAZAL TOV!!! secondly…well there goes that idea ROFL
scarborough fair is liek one of my favourite songs in like the whole ever universe thingy. when i was taking voice lessons i was forced to sing it over and over again until i could do it perfectly…omg what even
for some reason my post was deleted :D:D:D
yeah i was trolling…i can understand the difficulty in saying thank you to a parent. there are a lot of mixed feelings at play. like the idea that they owe you anyway so why should you thank them? do you thank a debtor for paying up? does a landlord thank a tenant for paying rent?
then theres the part where they sometimes have to punish you which can create some subconscious feelings of anger (to a degree) keven though a child may really love their parents they might find it hard to thank their parent)
then theres the fact that thanking someone is being submissive and teens are usually rebellious…there are a whole bunch of factors.
theres more, but i just woke up so im tired.
yeah…i mean why waste time having middlepath and adorable beating around the bush…lets get them hitched already :D:D:D
(brbrofling)
UZ /B/ TROLLIN
while on the subject…at what age SHOULD or COULD a child be exposed to such things? is it ever acceptable to explain to a child that this world has problems? should they be allowed to find out on their own? thoughts…
yeah…the chassidim didnt ban women from driving because of tznius…they banned women from driving because of sakanas nefashos…
“dont get y not if u had a problem with someone posting then u shouldnt be posting either”
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thats because you are a bum and a kafuy tov. go to chofetz chaim and learn some mussar.
insurance rates are lower because women are more CAREFUL drivers not because they are involved in fewer accidents. theres a difference. guys are more likely to drive recklessly. my definition of a good driver includes someone who can drive 50 on city streets for 10 years and never once have an accident.
this thread is gonna become all those who dont learn calling those who do leeches…and those who do calling those who dont bums. sums it up well doesnt it?
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can more people post my name? i need attention. otherwise i may cry.
well i wanted a clear answer before i wrote anything because it may not apply to you..but my point is that someone who has everything done for them, has no responsibilities like a high school kid or college kid or basically anyone who doesnt really have any real responsibility cant possibly appreciate judaism as it should be appreciated because they havent lived life yet. to them its just like you said “a bunch of nos” because what else are they doing? the “rules” arent appreciated because the person cant possibly understand how or why they apply…basically the more experience one has with life teh more appreciative they are of the so called “nos” because they realize their purpose.
i answered you without the information i had asked for…so this may not apply to you.
PrincessEagle and pretty much anyone else who sees judaism as a bunch of nos:
how old are you? do you live at home? do you work? do you have any significant responsibilities?
im not trying to be offensive with these questions, im just trying to make a point. ill explain after someone answers.
wear coloured shirts.
“Something has gone VERY wrong; this is not the first I heard of these poorly thought out shidduchim ending in disaster.”
why would you assume that
1) the shidduch was poorly thought out
2) that it ended or will end in disaster
while on the subject of walls of text…it makes it easier to read if you split that wall up into paragraphs
i sometimes use my webcams and mics to listen in on or watch whats going on at my home or office…love it.
meh…ive been reading 13375p34k for years…
hehehe sist would be out in cherem
“The Making of a Tzedaka Ad”
according to rav moshe meir weiss it is assur to name a kid something that will give other cause to tease him or her later on in life. it is assur to name a kid something which will adversely affect his life.
ive become so disgusted with all these ad campaigns which stick a picture of rav kanievsky or rav elyashiv along with a misquote and imply that only through their organization can one achieve salvation…every time i see an ad like that especially from kupat ha’ir, i throw it away in disgust.
“OAK” simple “Acts of Kindness”
and here i was thinking that oak was a tree…
get google plus
“I’d never allow water to get on my 1000 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets! (Except when being washed)”
what is the difference exactly?
shir hama’alos mima’amakim k’rasicha hashem?
because this wasnt exactly a disaster?
i was reading your thread…and i just happened to be hungry…and i just really like apple cherry pie 😛
hehehe ezehu chacham…
does anyone else here REALLY like apple cherry pie?
there is no such thing as a half jew
ive kickd my addiction to instant coffee…now i only drink freshly ground and brewed”