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If anyone wants to sponsor an RCA membership fee for me, I’d like to take my trolling to their forums. But it’s so expensive, and hard to justify the expense for a non-practicing rabbi.
How much?
I think you mean they are calling Chazal “Bigoted” as a slur, and “we know better”?
I don’t like the way you phrased it, but the T”T might explain himself somewhere along those lines.
We both know that the Torah does not believe in “equality”; we were in agreement in a discussion regarding hilchos tzeddakah. The Torah affords different status to Kohanim. Need I bring more examples? I wouldn’t use the word bigoted for any of those either.
I get my morality and values from chazal. I don’t tell chazal what their morality and values should have been.
Having said that, the T”T’s pshat is not mainstream at all, as has been noted.
Some say that pants are not tznius because they show the form of the legs. I do not think this is a point about pants.
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Sam2, I don’t know what you want from the Mechaber. In Siman 6, he says a case of issur where something is inherently “beged” isha. Some things change, but some don’t (also the Rashb”a seems to be makig this point). I also think you’re on shaky ground when you start attributing non halachic motivations for halachic arguments made by gedolei hapskim.
RB, a new sn (at least) every day, and the mods very much on top of it and adding “joseph” as a subtitle. Kind of a cat and mouse game.
but correctly so according to the T”T
According to one pshat in the T”T.
(which was my original point to PBA)
He’s still right, because, l’shitosom, they are being mevazeh Chaza”l.
According to this pshat of the T”T, R’ Meir was still correct, not just halachicly, but hashkaficly as well.
regards to point 4, I suspect that what R’Lichtenstein would tell you is that the Yetzer Hara today, through media and secular education, is much more prevalent and powerful and therefore a greater level of Torah is necessary for women to withstand it.
You’re being very kind. However, the Gemara he quotes clearly says that without Talmud Torah, the yetzer hora’s victory is inevitable ?? ???”? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ???’ ???? ???? ????.
According to his understanding, that this presumably affects both, until recently, women have been left defenseless (or at least weren’t mandated to take the only effective measures against the yetzer hora).
That’s an untenable position.
Mevazeh talmid chochom.
That is an awfully harsh charge to throw at the Torah Temimma I quoted earlier.
The Torah Temimah was not mevazeh Chaza”l.
There’s a huge difference between saying Chaza”l said something and being mevatel daas to it (holding it’s right), and saying Chaza”l held something, but we know better (but we’ll follow the resulting laws anyhow). The T”T didn’t say that according to this pshat, R’ Meir was wrong.
If you think what the Torah Temimah attributes to R’ Meir can’t be correct, take it up with the Torah Temimah for that, not for his lack of hisbatlus to Chaza”l. (I t should be noted that the Torah Temimah was quite controversial, and his opinions are not necessarily accepted as mainstream.)
He hit me back first.
Now that Joseph moved to three letters, he will never run out of screen names! Boo Hoo 🙁
See, that’s why you were wrong to begin with; he always had the option of switching patterns.
Don’t believe everything you heard growing up, and for your own sake, and for the safety of others, don’t advocate for pot because of your misguided beliefs.
There. Fixed.
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http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14510&st=&pgnum=168
The halacha regarding (1) is that male garb is determined by society. Therefore, in a society where women wear pants, pants would not be considered male clothing.
Not so fast.
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What are the predictable, preprogrammed topics
At this point, all of them (including this one).
I don’t understand. If it’s legal, what’s wrong with publicizing it? If it’s illegal, why is it okay if it’s done b’tzinah?
Some boys in my son’s Yeshiva High school were expelled for testing positive for Cannabis. If it’s not done on the premisis, I am not sure what business the school has to do that.
There’s probably a good reason they had them tested.
Well, according to the logic of some posters, if he would wear a black one, he would be considered choshuv by those who don’t believe in wearing kippot srugot.
Only if it’s a Pantech.
Feminist or no?
It depends on the intention of the one doing it.
At the Foot of the Kosel
Ok, lemme work on it.
Ask yourself how many Yeshivish families would agree to a shidduch with a boy who wears a crocheted kippah (even if he also wore a hat, and if he DIDN’T wear a hat, then it is not even in the ball park).
You are still mixing the two things up.
Respect ? shidduch compatibilty.
You used an example where I happen to think prejudging comes in handy. If you somehow think yeshivish are terrible people for automatically turning down a shidduch with someone who wears a kippah srugah, just realize that it works both ways. A MO family wouldn’t want to consider someone with a large black velvet yarmulka and long peyos either.
Even were you to make the assumption that someone with a kippah srugah would have the exact same hashkofos and cultural bent, and therefore a good shidduch prospect, you could only blame them for prejudging, but not for considering the external as more important than the internal.
Anyone disagree with me?
I don’t know that NK isn’t aware that they’re on the right. They just don’t care, because they think they are correct.
I don’t know how to measure right, left and center. It’s been argued that “yeshivish” is in the center, right in the middle, between LWMO and Satmar. I say, who cares? What’s correct is correct, no matter how many other ideologies there might be or how many people practice them.
You’re not the center to the MO. To them anyone to the right of YU is right wing.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind being at the very right, or, for that matter, on the very left. The Ramba”m wasn’t referring to hashkafos. If I have disagreements with NK or Satmar, it’s not because the’re too extreme, it’s because I don’t agree with them. If the MO were correct, their being at the left wouldn’t be a problem.
The irony is that the MO place value on being in the center, when they’re not.
I believe Rav Elyashiv ZTL was a Yerushalmi?
Born in Lita.
Someone who wears a crocheted kippah is viewed as somehow religiously “inferior” to the suede or velvet-kippah wearers, and you KNOW that is true.
To repeat what I told Sam, that’s stereotyping, not thinking the kippah is more important than what’s underneath it.
Following the middle path — being a centrist — is brought down by Rambam as binding halachah in Hilchot Deot.
1) As popa demonstrated, the modern orthodox are not following the middle path.
2) The Ramba”m is referring to middos, not hashkafos or intensity.
dating SHOULD be a natural relationship
It can’t be. V’hamaven yovin.
Like I posted before, I have never bought anything over the Internet and was Not charged sales tax as part of the transaction.
How do you manage that? I guess you’ve never bought on ebay or Amazon (Does Amazon have a physical presence in NJ?).
Old story. R’ Gifter said it about Norman Lamm
Rb, I opened one for that purpose.
the average Baal Habayis was much more learned
I don’t know that that’s the case.
I assume you don’t mean R’ Shneur Zalman’s Shulchan Aruch.
I am aware that it’s the pashtus, and of course we don’t pasken that way, but you can’t deny that R’ Moshe considered it a possibility, although I don’t understand it either.
It’s fair to say that paskening like the M”B is not an absolute (although the Chazon Ish makes it sound as if it is).
I do not think, though, that you’re correct that the reason the M”B is so widely accepted is merely convenience. It has to do with the author.
Mazel Tov!
How was the steak?
IF the situation today in israel is one of danger, then everyone has a CHIYUV to go to the army.
There you go again, thinking you know more than the gedolei haposkim. Did the Chazon Ish, The Minchas Yitzchak, R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, R’ Elyashiv, etc. send all able bodied yeshiva bochurim to the army? Do you think maybe they knew halachah maybe a tad better than you?
I’d also like to point out that this conversation is apparently only guys and vogue. lolol
You never open a thread excluding boys and expect that the boys will stay out.
But I am sure in one way or another R Moshe and the Torah forbid abusive drinking, but our society is willing to flirt with that danger over the other.
They’re both wrong. Yes, R’ Moshe’s reasoning would apply to wanton drunkenness as well.
I hope you’re using pot only in a figurative way, as a rhetorical device to show the folly of alcohol abuse.
Correct. As I said, I forgot the password, and can’t retrieve it because I don’t remember which email account I used. Either way, those days are over (I did recently open a “DY2” account to see if there was any place where you have to agree to terms when opening an account, in a discussion with ICOT).
According to Rambam, anyone learning full time without a parnassah creates a chilul HaShem and loses their part in Olam Ha-Ba!
That’s odd, because for a while the Ramba”m did just that, and was supported by his brother. I think maybe you are misunderstanding the Ramba”m.
R’ Moshe writes that it’s possible that the Ramba”m never held anything of the sort, but even if he did say something related to your misquote, the halachah does not follow him.
I know the profile and username, but I can’t post from that account. I anyhow promised the mods not to play around, if you remember when a mod took me too seriously.
You never know who’s a boy and who’s a girl.
You never know when popa’s serious and when he’s not.
You never open a thread excluding boys and expect that the boys will stay out.
You punkt happen to guess my username.
Yup.
I didn’t know that that means that we’ve all accepted his P’sak.
Sam2, the Chazon Ish makes a comment about how the M”B is accepted halachah. Unless there’s a known minhag otherwise, it’s usually halachah l’maaseh.
You punkt happen to guess my username.
Yup. Should I talk about how I opened the other profile? (I don’t remember the password or the email account I linked to.)
If you buy on the internet and aren’t charged sales tax (which happens if the seller doesn’t have a presence in your state), you must, by law, send in the tax with your income tax. When you pay sales tax after the sale, it’s called usage tax. Almost nobody does (but they might start cracking down).
Obviously nobody expects the gedolim to take a different stance on the marijuana issue than R Moshe’s
So how can you defend it?
BTW, R’ Moshe clearly assered for everyone, not just yeshivah bochurim.
Real-brisker, long time no see!
Why don’t you ask the seminary what their policy is?
Reb Moshe paskened explicitly against pot smoking for many reasons.
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=271&hilite=
It might be worth noting that dina d’malchusa dina is not one of the reasons.
I’m curious, Health, do you pay usage tax on out of state online purchases?
Yes, yes.