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This thread is still creepy.
Still doesn’t take the “B” out of BLT.
This should work on a kosher phone, unlike the BLT.
But even that doesn’t say it’s assur or a chisaron in bitachon.
I have life insurance, but we never discussed it before, so how would you know?
Rav Moshe says explicitly that it’s not a lack of bitachon.
Swappa, $50, no.
Voice and text are fine. Data is not currently being used. I bought a used phone from one of the sites you mentioned.
Shkoyach!
Whose shittah is that?
Joseph, do you have a source arguing with R’ Moshe, or are you not arguing the halachah/hashkafah, just the comparison?
Both Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igros Moshe O.C. 2:111 http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=918&st=&pgnum=299&hilite=) and Chacham Ovadiah Yosef (Yechaveh Daas 3:85) hold its not a chisaron in bitachon.
Also, see Shaarei Teshuvah from Rabbeinu Yonah, Shaar 3-9, which is what I am basing my statement on.
http://beta.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=52052&st=&pgnum=140&hilite=
I actually made a thread about it.
Joseph, do you still think it very unlikely that Trump will win?
See Raman, Sforno and Rashbam.
Everything you wrote is correct, except for “subtly.”
I agree, but I think it’s unintentional.
We’re commanded to vote for those who advance morals.
Please don’t fool yourself into thinking that translate into a vote for Trump, the most publicly immoral candidate to ever run for president.
never in my life heard of such a lying & corrupt person like hillary
I have – his name is Donald Trump.
A few things.
1) This does not make you a kofer, ch”v, because you don’t deny the concept of reward, you just (likely erroneously) don’t think you will get any. You do acknowledge that others will, so you’re not denying s’char v’onesh.
2) You do get s’char for the mitzvos you do, even if others may get more because it’s harder for them. It’s not a competition, and Hashem is not limited in hows much s’char He can give.
3) There is indeed no reward for not committing an aveirah which you had no interest or desire to commit.
I hope you are getting help for your depression.
BTW, I can summarize that even more concisely:
Ubiquitin: ?
Health: !
Everyone else: zzzzz
can someone please summarize the last 9 pages
Sparkly: someone who smokes is OTD.
Everyone else: no he isn’t.
Sprinkle in a debate about which is worse, smoking or watching movies.
Time to move on to the Health/Ubiquitin marathon.
Oh, come on NDG, he’s not saying to change the normal curriculum, he’s suggesting it for those who are not being matzliach in learning Gemara.
I plan to cover my head with a blanket. Is that okay?
Google bivy sack
No!
It’s not okay if you could have moved further to the left and allow cars to pass you on the right, or if the store doesn’t have good sales, or the school charges too much tuition, or the girl went to college.
CA, if it was an ambulance on a call, I wouldn’t call the guy a jerk.
I meant that my driveway was legal.
ubiq, often the guy pulling out doesn’t hustle and takes his pretty time (and four cars are honking for you to move.)
If I think it won’t be too much of a hassle to find another spot, I’ll move on. Sometimes, I’ll wait until he moves out because otherwise it might cost me a lot of time.
You should just park in front of an illegal driveway.
How can you tell if a driveway is legal or illegal?
As you may recall, some jerk once blocked my driveway even though it’s legal.
The author is a Rabbi of a nearby school in Far Rockaway. I didn’t see him offer any spots.
Is he in charge of admissions? Is Far Rockaway in Brooklyn?
There’s a catering hall called Ateres on the Park.
The reason to not smoke is because that itself is disobeying Him.
Btw, did you ever hear why you need a fence on your roof?
Excellent. Now compare not building a maakeh to jumping off of the roof.
DY – “going to movies”
I don’t think so –
I know, I was being facetious.
you NEVER know maybe it can make a person die a few minutes earlier that means a few minutes less to serve G-d.
The reason to not smoke is because it will lead to not serving Hashem (i.e. obey Him) as well, while the reason to not watch movies is because that itself is disobeying Him.
ZD, agreed again.
Sparkly: “lilmod ulelamaid – if someone is doing something wrong they DO NEED an explanation for doing it.”
What exactly was this in response to?
Going to movies.
Sparkly, the pritzus and kefirah is very real, and smoking is not pikuach nefesh (although it is wrong, and assur according to many).
also when i think of someone smoking i think of a guy whos either NOT frum, NOT jewish, or otd going outside and smoking. i CANT imagine a good frum boy smoking that DOESNT happen it DOESNT work.
You should change how you think because it’s not a reflection of reality.
The reality is there are many people who are frum, yarei shomayim, who have a flaw that they smoke.
Sparkly, no it isn’t.
I am 100% opposed to smoking , Ive never smoked, refuse to go near people who smoke and think its a disgusting habit, but this does touch into a bigger issue, you cant really ban everything. it just doesnt work. The more things you assur, the more likely you will have people committing averiahs
I agree. I think that’s why in some yeshivas, smoking is allowed (or at least the hanhalah looks the other way), because people have to choose their battles.
I don’t think anyone can use the word smoking and healthy in the same sentence and assume people will not be speaking of physical health.
Why, because smoking is (physically) unhealthy? That’s precisely why one wouldn’t assume that someone is saying it is (physically) healthy, because everyone (even roshei yeshiva!) knows that it isn’t.
I’m amazed people don’t wonder where teens get the money from to spend on an unhealthy.dirty and addictive habit.
How do you know if people wonder? Perhaps they also wonder how teens get money for entertainment, electronics, clothing, etc.
In addition, it’s more posts probable to assume healthy means physical, not mental, when staying the smoking is healthy.
That would be true if you’re a very literal person, or if you’re looking to find fault. If someone were not either of those, the actual meaning of that statement would be obvious.
it doesn’t say anywhere in the Torah that it’s assur to smoke
That is far from certain.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/hishomer-lcha-ushmor-nafshecha
You are also speculating that he meant it’s physically healthy. I think her speculation is much more likely than yours.
You also seem to be speculating that this took place in New York, and that the bochurim he’s referring to are in kollel.
FYI, the vast majority of American bochurim who smoke stop before they go into shidduchim.
LC, that’s not what she says he said.
The ???? says it’s from both. Here’s the link again.
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14587&st=&pgnum=158&hilite=
I strongly agree, golfer.
“We all know that there are some people in this world that cope with any given tragedy by grasping for straws to try and blame the victims.”
(FTR, I’m not referring to CA, nor did I take NCB’s comment that way.)
My agreement or lack thereof is subjective? 😉
I do not agree that someone who lives on a country road or stands near one violates v’nishmartem.
I.M. Shluffin: do what works best for you, but don’t assume it works best for everyone.
You simply ignored my point –
Yes, because it’s a completely irrelevant and irrational point.
Do you honestly think this is a “frum” issue? Do you think non Jews and secular Jews are careful to never live or appear on streets without sidewalks?
There, I responded. Is it going to help? Will you acknowledge that you made a mistake?
I expect not, so now you’ll know why I often don’t respond to other irrelevant or illogical points.
Two quotes from the most recent article:
1) “the young men were struck in the dormitory driveway”
So yes, no sidewalk, but they wer not on the road.
2) “The property was granted a permanent certificate of occupancy as a school and dormitory in February 2016, and all of its inspections are current, Ramapo’s Chief Building Inspector Anthony Mallia said in an email.”
So C of O not relevant by any stretch.