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So kkls45, what song is it from?
Sam2: I think that EVERY Rav has an obligation to say something if he feels it is halachically necessary, no matter how big or small he may be. A Rav also has a responsibility to know when he needs to ask another Rav for a second opinion.
As I said before, I think the letter was ambiguously worded, and I think everyone is reading it in a way it wasn’t intended. I wonder if a chareidi Rabbi wrote such a letter, would they be jumping to attack him, or would they try and find a limud zchus, such as reading the letter the way I did?
First of all, the letter was never meant to be public. It was leaked by someone. Second, I understood the letter a bit differently.
I thought this part:
“Is this Torah and these are its scholars? Woe is to he who learned Torah, woe is to his father who taught him Torah, woe is to his rebbe who taught him Torah. See how crooked are his actions and how ugly are his ways.”
referred to the people who assaulted Rav Stav at the wedding. Yes, woe to the teacher, because when a Rebbe hears that his talmud, who he tried to guide in the proper derech, did such a thing, he should be mourning these actions! Yes, they trembled to hear the words of Chacham Ovadia shlita. But the 2nd half was about the people who went completely against halachah and assaulted a great Rav. Chacham Ovadia never would have approved such an action! Woe to the Rebbe who hears of his talmidim doing such a thing!
kkls45: I don’t know that one, where is it from?
I also have one out there which nobody got yet:
“Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
You’re probably better off getting the basic model as opposed to one of the fancy electronic ones – many Rabbonim hold you can use them on Shabbos!
tzaddiq: According to Wikipedia, his mother was Scots-Irish, with some French Norman. It also says this:
According to a third cousin of Presley’s, one of Gladys’s great-grandmothers was Jewish. There is no evidence that Presley or his mother shared this belief in a Jewish heritage. Syndicated columnist Nate Bloom has challenged the cousin’s account, which he calls a “tall tale”.
I don’t know about that one, but Pizza Crave in Teaneck makes a great white sauce for their Garlic Knot Slice. I think I know how to replicate it:
Mayonnaise
sugar
vinegar
water
garlic
There have been plenty of Jewish athletes:
Sandy Koufax
Hank Greenberg
Ike Davis (mother is Jewish, father is not)
Shawn Green
Kevin Youkilis
It depends if I have a plain slice or one with toppings. If it’s plain, then yes, I fold it. If there are toppings, I find that folding it makes the toppings fall off, so I keep it straight.
Look into Darchei Torah in Far Rockaway. Rabbi Bender is second to none!
DaasYochid, I’m surprised you’re not getting “Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3″… the singer is one you’d definitely know.
Toi: Wrong!
kkls45: Is it from a women’s singing group? It doesn’t sound familiar, and before I start looking into it, I want to be sure it’s a song I’d be listening to.
Still nobody got “Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
Shopping613, first of all, which song exactly is it that you want? As I said, you can email Feif Un. We work together, and he can forward it to me. He posted an anonymous email address of his once on the CR. Search and you shall find!
kkls45: Ride the Waves from the NY Boys Choir
He’s a guy who used to post here. He left because he was sick of the bias against Modern Orthodox Jews. You can read the thread that drove him to leave here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/shocking-study-of-modern-orthodox-otd-rate
He used to post quite a bit in this thread (although it was mostly me feeding him songs). We also work together.
I looked at that thread, and I see the OP in it was Joseph. I know that Joseph has contacted Feif Un outside of the CR before, and told him he was going to drive him so crazy he’d leave. I don’t think Feif Un would want Joseph to have that satisfaction, so I’ll ask him again to return when I see him tomorrow.
writersoul: Yes, you broke with TRADITION with those words. IF I WERE A RICH MAN, I’d buy this site and ban you for that! But MIRACLE OF MIRACLES, I’m not, so you’re safe. I have to go now – it’s almost sunrise. Did I say sunrise? I meant sunset. SUNRISE, SUNSET, almost the same thing. It’s almost time for my SABBATH PRAYER. So have a good Shabbos, and don’ forget to make a L’chaim – TO LIFE!
Feif Un once posted a story about his brother, who wanted to sit and learn, and asked R’ Chaim Segal zt”l (from Chaim Berlin) if he could stop attending secular studies (this was in 11th grade). R’ Segal refused to allow it.
My younger brother also attended Chaim Berlin, although R’ Segal was no longer alive. He also asked about stopping secular studies, and R’ Braunstein refused to allow him to drop out. He told him that he needed a high school diploma.
Have someone take a magic marker (although not a red one, as everyone knows red is not tznius) and color over the parts that are objectionable.
I don’t have that song on mp3, I’ll have to convert it. You can email Feif Un, and he’ll get you in touch with me.
When it comes to this subject, I think girls are full of themselves. You think guys can’t control themselves around you? Guess what – not all of you are that great! When people are dating, one of the things you look for is a physical attraction. Not every girl is attractive to every guy!
Have I ever seen an attractive girl and had an improper thought cross my mind? Yes. Do I act on these thoughts? No! Guess what? Despite all the people telling you boys can’t control themselves, I CONTROL MYSELF!!!
But as far as you saying that guys only think about one thing – you’re wrong! As I said, I don’t think every single girl is attractive. Don’t flatter yourself by thinking that I’d have the thoughts if I saw you. Most of the time, I probably wouldn’t. It’s pure ego on a girl’s part to think every guy wants her.
I had the Amudai Shaish album when I was a kid. It’s a bit of a laugh. Some of the songs are kind of silly, with funny words and weird voices singing (I think Shema B’ni had someone with a Tuki voice singing).
So this is still out there:
“Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
It’s from the Amudai Shaish Boys Choir. In the late 80s (I think maybe 88?) they put out a double album which didn’t have any title to it – it just said Amudai Shaish Boys Choir on the front. The song is titled Our Gedolim.
How about this one:
“Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
The one I posted 2 days ago is still out there. I posted 2 lines from it:
“And for the few who are still here, we must cherish every dear”
“But now they’re gone, and left are just a few, to guide us as a Jew”
I also said it’s from a coir, and came out in the late 80s.
writersoul: I thought I recognized that (my Yiddish isn’t very good!), so I double checked – and I was right!
Un vos iz besser fun dem cholent un dem fish?
Alleh Yidden! Zayt tzufriden! from Or Chodosh
mitzvahgirl613: 8th Day, Harmony
DaasYochid: Here are some more lyrics from the song:
“But now they’re gone, and left are just a few, to guide us as a Jew”
Whoever wrote the words to the song had horrible grammar…
haifagirl: Because most “Jewish” music these days is garbage, and can’t compare in quality to non-Jewish music. Most Jewish singers try to cope the style of non-Jewish music, but don’t do a very good job of it.
Thanks, I got the song.
Did you figure out the other one I posted earlier?
I have the one from Megama at home (I recently got ahold of it, but haven’t had the chance to listen to it yet). Do you have an earlier version? If you do, can you email it to Feif Un? He’ll pass it on to me.
The chorus goes like this:
Ain’t gonna work on Saturday
Ain’t gonna work on Saturday
Double, double, triple pay, won’t make me work on Saturday
Ain’t gonna work on Saturday
It’s Shabbos Kodesh
Did you mean “Double, double, triple pay, won’t make me work on Saturday”, from Megama, later from Uncle Moishy?
Shopping613, the main rule in this game is to get the lyrics right!
Ok… another choir. The song came out in the late 80s.
Correct, DaasYochid! Here’s another tough one:
And for the few who are still here, we must cherish every dear
I once took my grandmother shopping on Avenue J, on a Sunday morning. There was no parking on J, and I ended up parking on Avenue I, across from Chaim Berlin. It was a nice spring day, and the windows of the yeshiva were open. We could hear the children learning from the open windows. My grandmother asked me if we could stop for a minute and listen. She told me, “I love listening to children in yeshivos learning! Hitler killed my family, and he tried to kill all the Jews, but here we are, listening to kids learning, and Hitler is gone! This is the greatest revenge against Hitler, having our children learning!”
SecularFrummy: Who says all else is lost? There’s a phrase, “Mitoch lo l’shma, bo l’shma” – if you do something that is not l’shma, eventually, you’ll do it l’shma. So even if someone’s doesn’t have full faith in Hashem, they can still do things which can eventually bring them to a full belief.
Even if it does hinge on that, so what? Does that mean it shouldn’t be a test?
SecularFrummy: There are many things we are tested with. Belief in Hashem is only one of them. They had their own tests to deal with. Obviously, they were on a high enough level to merit seeing the open miracles. Maybe their test was to try and appreciate the “explainable” miracles as much as the inexplicable ones? I really don’t know.
SecularFrummy: Hashem would make an alternative to allow for bechirah. The Ramban writes extensively about the fact that if there were no bechirah, there could be no reward. If miracles were completely obvious, and you had to believe in them, it wouldn’t be a big deal to believe in Hashem. The fact that there is a plausible explanation means the belief can be rewarded.
I don’t know what people thought a few hundred years ago. Maybe Hashem arranged it for this generation, not the previous ones.
DaasYochid, here’s a hint: The song comes from a choir. The main soloist in the song also released a solo album when he was still a kid.
Can anyone give an opinion on the theory I wrote earlier? I’d like to hear what people think of it. To recap: The Midrash tells us that Hashem made an “out” for every miracle He did, so that if someone wants, they can explain it as a natural thing. This was done to allow bechirah. Evolution is not illogical, it was simply Hashem’s “out” for creating the world. Hashem made it appear that living things evolved so that there can be bechirah about it.
Is Chaim Berlin also not taking it?
First off, the OP wrote “I heard” the Regents were cancelled. Did anyone confirm that they are, in fact, cancelled?
As for Biology and evolution, I actually taught 9th grade Regents biology for one year. I asked the principal if he wanted me to skip evolution, and he said no. I told the class the following:
“The Midrash says that every time Hashem does something miraculous, he also creates a way for those who don’t want to believe to have a way out of it. For example, Rashi says the wind blew the night before kriyas yam suf so some could say the wind caused the sea to split. You can say these things make sense, because otherwise it wouldn’t be a viable option. In the case of Hashem creating the world and all the living things, evolution was that “alternative belief” that Hashem created. We know that the truth is that Hashem created us. Others, however, are fooled by the alternative that Hashem put in place. By studying the alternative, and keeping firmly in mind that it is just an alternative, we can appreciate the perfection of Hashem! When we try to fool someone, there are always ways to see through the illusion. Let’s appreciate the perfection of Hashem by going through his “illusion” of evolution, and seeing how thoroughly he fooled all these people!”
Here’s a new one for you:
My courage is beginning to fade
I need the light of Yiddishkeit
Believe it or not, I’ve never heard of Shema Koleinu. I did a quick Google search and found them, but that’s the first time I’ve seen it.
I doubt you’ll get #2 – it’s from the same album as a song Feif Un posted a while ago. It’s called Stop Where You Are, from an album called Mesorah. I’m trying to find a copy of it somewhere, with little luck. My most recent attempt was through a friend of mine. I remembered that one or two of the songs on the album were composed by his father-in-law. He’s going to ask for me where I can get a copy.
If I get one, I can try to send it to you.