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Keddushin 41a
The men are in good company 🙂
“Yeah, but my hashkafa IS better than theirs!”
That is where I give up, as I posted earlier.
Good points Oomis.
A Buffalo Nickel?
Changed my mind.
Just wish everyone the best.
G@W
I’m the worm.
See my post on the “very judgemental” thread.
You can’t argue with a worm like me (see very judgemental thread):-)
Have a good Shabbos, I think I’m done here.
When you are willing to let your daughter marry a Galitziana, let me know.
myfriend:
If you are that worried, then it doesn’t matter what you are. People can hit on you either way.
It is Nogaigh to your question, only because I don’t see a guy who has learned in yeshiva asking such a question.
And if you ask me why not, I will answer you to please ask your husband.
squeak:
I’ll wait for her/him to answer.
myfriend:
Can I assume you are a woman?
After one understands that God is actually present within us [if we make spiritual room for him koviyochol within us], then we can understand that our mitzvos/torah/tefilla are our interaction with God which makes us closer to Him, in the same way that interaction between a man and his wife and doing for each other bring upon themselves more closeness.
I like this. Just add that Bitachon is the Glue that actually creates the connection. Without Bitachon, there is no Devaykus.
Likewise, LMA.
P.S. The concept I mentioned (Note Es Haolam L’Chayim) is the idea that one mitzva has the ability to move yourself, city, country, & world to life. As per the Rambam in Hilchos Teshuva:
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Helpful:
That’s why I answered:
Stay very far away from women.
feivel:
Good to see you. You haven’t been posting and interjecting sanity in your poetic fashon.
I hope to see you more often.
As a last point:
You may want to read “Hush” by Eishes Chayil.
Not that you (LMA) are ignorant (C’V), that is just the reason why I find myself defending the left more than the right.
mike:
Just like racists, you find those who think their way is superior and need to puch others down to reinforce that superiority.
We are capable of having a disagreement without making it personal (which is the main reason why I miss Joseph, Feivel and Rabbi of Berlin). I am in the middle of one in the “overeducated girls” thread.
But when someone assumes their way of Avodas Hashem (or they themselves) are inherently superior over other equally Halachic ways of Avoda (such as the Kollel Vs. Working discussions, or EY vs. America), then that makes for the end of the discussion. You can’t debate someone who thinks you are a worm.
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But brothers and others is assur
If they (men & Kallah) are not touching, then why would there be a difference. I don’t think there is one.
If they are, I believe you are correct, even though there is no Issur of Negiyah. (It is somehwere up there, I can’t remember the source offhand).
The Groom is a Dav’ar Mechuar and shows off what will be later, and I would imagine that the Rabbonim would frown on such a practice.
Here’s a great vort:)
Fresh Bread is better than stale bread.
It doesn’t make a difference what sect you are, or who your Rebba is, or who your parents were.
It only makes a difference what your actions, Mitzvos and Limud Torah are.
(Unless you are a “Frumest of the Frum”. Then you can be Oved Avoda Zara and not worry about it). 🙂
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Stay very far away from women. I can read Hebrew 🙂
Toeles is a mitzva, and is not included.
(You and I agree on this one, I think).
LMA:
The connection we have to Hashem is via Emunah & Bitachon, and that is the Mitzva of L’Davka Bo, to increase your Bitachon (see Meshech Chachma in Devarim) (heard from R’ Yaakov Freidman from Beitar).
Nothing to do with believing in mystical sources.
Which is where I am trying to get. Mitzvos are supposed to strengthen your connection to Hashem by following His will, you increase your trust in Him that He is all-powerful.
It doesn’t happen by magic (as you point out). You have to believe and cause it to happen.
But having Malachim carry/created via the mitzva has nothing to do with your personal connection to Hashem.
I personally do believe in mystical “things” happening when you do a mitzva. I’m not sure who you refer to when you say “you”.
I don’t own a TV!
I just don’t like the ignorance that has developed in the Yeshivish/Charaidi world. I actually think you and I are arguing in semantics, as your “mystical sources” is my “Note Es Haolam L’Chayim” and the concept of Tikun (I hate to use that word, makes me sound reform) in general.
P.S. When I say I would like to see it inside, that means Parsha & Dibur Hamaschil, not repeating it. If you heard it from an Adam Gadol, that is good too.
Thanks, and I am glad we can have a discussion in a civilized manner.
As a “frummest of the frum” I guess I can’t disagree with you.
Your Frumness overwhelms me.
I bow to you as I exit.
Amen.
SJS:
MSSeeker is not Chassidish.
She is a Frummest of the Frum (as per her own words).
As such, she can never have anyone OTD as part of her group.
No True Scotsman.
P.S. I think she might have something to do with Frummy McFrum.
My answers as well:
1. Yerayi Hashem (not sure what “Frumest of the frum” means).
2. O.
And I like your use of Ebonics (AAVE) to show your ethnic pride.
msseeker:
Thank you (I did not look). I would not trust Cross currents; they do have an ulterior motive (perhaps? 😉
Being that I am “Charaidi” (I am a Quaker), I don’t see your point.
If you bring stats about straimel wearers vs. non wearers, then good.
But Spudiks don’t count 🙂
Marmite!
Is fun allowed?
No. Eat, sleep & learn.
NO FUN
he would easily comprehend why it’s preferable to learn Gemora over chumash, since gemora learning requires more intense concentration,
Tell that to the Daf crowd (not that they are not doing something wonderful; they are)
1)To see Aggada sources for this understanding of the mitzvah of talmud torah [to connect with God], check up my previous post (page 4) in which I quoted numerous sources.
Yes, but nothing inside. Please show me where I can look it up for myself. There have been way too many misquotes here.
For point 2, you are differentiating between the Chiyuv of Talmud Torah to Mitzva of Limud. I don’t disagree, but Dr. Hall is not incorrect.
However, one must still believe in the truth of the agadda in talmud which states that when one does a mitzvah he creates an angel.
I don’t think anyone will disagree, but that is not the point of the mitzva. That is actually similar to being Oved to accept reward (i.e. create a “Malach” (also not explained) that will be a Maylitz for you & the world), which is a lesser madraiyga.
. Our obligation to believe in this is obviously learned from the mitzvah of “Lidivka Boa” since one cannot possibly obtain deveykus w/o believing in the mystical aspect of the mitzvos. (sic)
Finally, we are getting somewhere. Lidavka Bo. But you don’t explain why you require the mysticism. Rashi seems to say the point is to do Korbanos because Hashem wants it, not mysticism.
If all people in MO community really believed in this spiritual nature of mitzvos,
Which you have still not explained.
The way I see your point is that you believe without Chassidus, Mitvos are “Judaism that carries no spiritual significance”. (paraphrase).
That is OK for you to believe.
And you did not answer my question regarding Lubavitch.
Same thing happens in some well-known yeshivos every Simchas Torah (minus the kallah). The RY doesn’t seem to mind, or he’d put an end to it.
But the boys don’t see the girls (I don’t think).
What a novel way to cut down on the cost of weddings!
Doesn’t save anything. They show up for the second dance and eat from everyone who has already left 🙁 I really DON’T understand why they show up, if not to let out steam (which has nothing to do with the wedding).
Your list of benefits in the health care law sounds nice, but what exactly is the law, the whole law – all 2000 pages of it.
Oh yes, forgot.
Dr. Hall, can we repeal the 1099 requirement?
Gavra thinks that instead of the government rationing to only some this years technology, thereby leaving others with nothing (Medicaid), it could provide to everyone last years technology at a lower overall cost.
If someone wants this years technology, they can pay for it, instead of having the government provide it for them if they are poor, not getting it if you are middle class, and paying for it if you are rich.
(Why am I refering to myself in third person?)
Go Bench Go! (as in the bench Popa broke)
BIG REDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
1: Only those men who were looking to get married went to the fields to look.
2: The women attempted to convince the men to marry them by looking at their Beauty, Yichus, and if they had neither, tried to convince them to marry “Leshem Shomayim”.
I infer that women who are looking to get married should “show off their beauty” to convince their prospective husband to marry them, if it is is a place which is only Tachlis (the modern comparison MIGHT be a date). A wedding would not qualify.
Taynis last Amud (since we want to be accurate here:):
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(emphasis mine)
Not exactly what the OP said, but she? was missing info, not trying to pull the wool over us.
Lomed Mkol Adam:
Are you Lubavitch? I ask because specificly they concentrate on Chassidus (which I think is what you are getting at), while Litvaks don’t, and other Chassidim (in general) minimalize it.
Still, Mr. Hall states in his above post [reflecting the opinion in his community], that one can fulfill his obligation of talmud torah through learning Chumash,
It is DR. Hall, and actually it is a Gemorah Nedarim, and all you really need is Shema (8a IIRC).
So I assume Navi has Halachic applications? Why should Navi be any different?
numerous passages of Talmud Agaddah which state that one must learn Gemora solely in order to connect with God.
Never heard of Talmud Agaddah. Can you point me to one such passage, and what Talmud Agaddah is? Who wrote it, etc.
I’m not going to go through the rest of it, just quote a Rashi Regarding Korbanos and Rayach Nichoach:
“I am satisfied, for I have spoken and My will has been fulfilled”.
Nothing about Sefiros or any other mystical stuff going on in Shomayim (which you have still not attempted to define).
WIY:
Shidduchim come about by living according to the Torah and going through the process with a shadchan.
Lav Davka (although I did). And I’m not sure about the second point either, if the purpose is Tachlis.
Would you happen to have any backup?
jakyweb:
The problem is not intermingling.
It is when the 15-19 year olds that went to the wedding as members of the yeshiva decide to “hang around” when the girls all enter the men’s side to watch.
Should there be men dancing for the Kallah? Yes, it is a minhag Yisroel.
Should the teen girls and boys be watching each other (when the boys are not even close to being ready to get married)? IMHO, no.
Histaklus is Assur, and teen boys in yeshiva have enough problems as is.
(4) Eliminating the pre-existing condition exclusion
Just call health care what it is already (health care), don’t call it insurance (which it is not).
And it should be available to all regardless of income, immigration status, and “future life expectancy”.
How to afford it…there are some good ideas floating around.
SJS:
There was no one there (Tu B’Av) who was just looking 🙂
crock pot liner
Yea, that’s what the bag is called 🙂
Thanks.
cleaning the cholent pot
Soak it overnight & clean it the next morning, or use a bag.
Well said. Kallah comes in and so do all her “best” friends. Basically 1/2 the ladies section ends upby the boys and now whoever dances in front of the Kallah (the single guys) also try to impress the single girls who are watching. What a mess lol.
Time to hit the dessert table 🙂
Unless I actually know the girl herself (not just her parents) AND believe she would be happy to see me dancing, I try to sit it out.
Imaofthree: I’m pretty OTT when it comes to chicken fat, i even clean my cutlets!!
Same here.
As per the question: re-orginizing/cleaning out the pantry/freezer/fridge when we run out of room.
GAW: I didn’t mean Zohar in specific, I meant all Agadda of the Talmud and Midrashim compiled in the era of Tanaaim. And I’m only referring to Midrashim that discuss the spiritual world and the spiritual essence of the mitzvos. The Midrashim which discuss science and nature are not included in the “Nistar” of Torah and are therefore for a different discussion.
That is even more confusing.
1: Wasn’t the Zohar written by a Tanna.
2: what is meant by “the spiritual essence of the mitzvos”
3: Regarding what are you bothered about “the spiritual world” and some members of Klal Yisroel?
Thanks.
Your outlook of Judaism is clearly void of recognition of the spiritual components of the Torah and each of its mitzvos. This recognition is central to Judaism, and without believing it, one cannot be considered practicing authentic Judaism.
What does that mean?
Please define “spiritual components”.
Is Zohar now the only Torah Shel Ba’al Peh (as would seem from your last paragraph)?
Do you believe that all Medrashim (or the Zohar, for that matter) are infallible?
Thanks.
You do realize this forum only contains (with few exceptions) the “Yeshivish” world.
Broaden your horizons; there is much more out there than you would think.
Hatzlacha
I’m not Dr. Hall, but I would like to try:
REAGAN GRANTS HASIDIM ‘DISADVANTAGED’ STATUS
June 29, 1984 NY Times
They were talking about it in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn yesterday. Bearded men in dark coats under a hot sun, men known for their deep spiritual values, their belief in education and hard work, their pride in self-reliance. They were all Hasidic Jews, and they were talking about President Reagan’s decision, announced Wednesday, to add them to a list of minority groups considered ”disadvantaged” by the Government.
What are your (meaning the CR) opinions regarding this historic expansion of Affirmative Action?
msseeker:
Before you make a claim, show me the numbers.
WIY:
For your first point, is he really? Or is he just confused, having a bad situation at home, etc. and just needs some help?
Once again, if he really is a lost cause, and is hurting others, then OK. But then you are giving up on a member of Klal Yisroel.
For a suggestion: How about one class for the pure blood Ashkinazim, and another (with a fence in between, so they can’t play together) for those who are Baalei Teshuva, Americans, and Sephardim whose relatives may own a TV?
That might work. ;-(
Kollel wife 🙂
Professional Tax credit (1 per child) creator 🙂
Real answer? Plumbing.
msseeker:
I would not be happy about it.
I would expect the teacher to explain why it (yarmulke, straimel) is important.
I would probably send the child to the principal.
I would not remove the child from the school.