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RSRH is basically correct. Moreover, no matter how good one might be at Gemara, the lack of oral and written presentation skills will be extremely detrimental in law school, not to mention the legal profession.
RSRH, I respond to the following:
Stay tuned for an upcoming Law Review article I will be publishing arguing that American law could learn much from the Torah’s approach to the role of courts and judges, and the purposes of litigation. I’m sure I will post it online somewhere when its done.
Assuming you are actually writing for the legal profession and not the “heimishe olam,” I’ll be interested in reading. But let’s get serious for a moment. Do you think Chief Justice Roberts will read your article and then order an Artscroll Shas?
I would guess that 99.9 per cent of American lawyers and judges know nothing about the Torah (assuming you are including the Torah She b’al Peh). This is not likely to change soon.
–Homeowner, Esq.
health, I understand your misguided point very well and I consider it to be as valid as your knowledge of the Italian language.
Capisce?
Popa, how sad that there would be any stigma over something caused, for example, by a chemical imbalance in the brain (e.g. clinical depression) as opposed to an imbalance in the blood (e.g. leukemia). Both are illnesses.
Under health‘s reasoning, the person with the BMI of 33 (morbidly obese) has gotten there wilfully and continues to eat himself into the grave, because, supposedly he wants to. Too bad some can’t cut these folks a break and say they, too are ill!
Health, it was you who raised the issue of credentials and when I asked you what you do for a living you responded with “I’m in the Health/Medical field.”
All right then. It’s a safe bet we’ve eliminated physician and nurse, two very honorable professions, or you would have said that. So what is it? The last time someone said to me “I’m in health care,” it turned out to be a nursing home administrator.
By the way, isn’t it amazing how when one person uses Google to make a point online another person can actually go ahead and dig deeper into it?
Today I happened to speak to a colleague of Dr. Walsh in the same department at Columbia. He told me that the classifications of eating disorders in the forthcoming Fifth Edition of the “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders” published by the American Psychiatric Association has not yet been settled and that there is much discussion and debate going on.
While it is settled that anorexia and bulimia are agreed to be disorders, many are of the opinion that repeatedly eating to excess such that the patient is classified as Morbidly Obese is also a disorder.
For the life of me, I do not understand why you are emphasizing that “overeating is not a disorder.” If G-d forbid the DSM-V eventually doesn’t classify it as such, how many unhealthy people in our community will continue their “fressing ways” to the inevitable complications of cardiovascular disease, diabetes and other terrible problems?
I am sure you don’t want that, hence I don’t understand your point.
This is my personal request in light of the Coffee Room rules that remind people that what is written here can be read by anyone.
Please do not use phrases like “my goyta” or worse. They sound way too much like “my slave.” You can make exactly the same point by saying “cleaning lady,” “cook,” “housekeeper,” “home health aide,” etc.
I have 100 pounds of calcium chloride stocked.
health, what is your problem? Why do you keep bringing up my profession? What do you do for a living, by the way?
health, and what’s your degree in, snarkiness? Compulsive overeating is indeed a psychological problem.
Or, do you think people eat themselves to 100 lbs overweight willingly with knowledge of all the health problems?
health, I don’t understand your point that:
To those saying overeating is an eating disorder, you are ncorrect. . .
For one thing, the topic posed by the OP was anorexia and bulimia. For another, the quotes attributed to Dr. Walsh speak of “binge eating” and say nothing about compulsive overeating, known sadly in our community as “fressing.”
Compulsive overeating is indeed a serious problem and affects way too many frum people causing heart disease, diabetes and stroke.
Here is the contact information for Dr. Walsh: http://nyp.org/FPHTML/physician/tbwalsh/
Why don’t you call him and ask him if he agrees that compulsive overeating is not a disorder?
When I see someone with a BMI over 30, I think to myself, “Nebech, when will he learn?” If I see a person like that eating at a kiddush as if he is about to cross the Sinai Desert without food, I ask when Hatzoloh will have a Fressing Emergency Number.
A different perspective, if you will, particularly to the yeshiva and kolel students here:
Whether your suit is $4, $40, $400 or $4,000, look sharp. Look your best. When in shul, we say, “Know in front of Whom you are standing,” meaning Hashem.
When you are in the street, besides being in front of Hashem, you are in front of the rest of the world. Don’t walk around with your shirt outside your trousers and your tzitit flying in the wind. Don’t walk around with clothes than are not clean. That makes you look sloppy. Is this the impression you want to give as a Jew?
Yes, bow ties. And how many here know how to tie one?
R-B, Not sure if I heard that one, but I did hear about the young man detained last year because of his tefilin.
BPT, it strikes me that if someone who is very obviously Jewish is seen in a public place to be defacing a symbol of another religion (e.g. a cross) that this act has at least the potential for Chilul Hashem.
How about Member With The Most User Names?
Taking home the water bottle, priceless!
Wolf, thanks for the link. I must tell you that I have been to a lot of Big Ten basketball games and I never once saw that seal. In fact, along with my friends, I followed the graduate school custom of swapping undergrad t-shirts and the Notre Dame one I got was one with the ND logo, as was every single one I ever saw.
BPT, I did indeed understand your point but there were other points to be made as well including the potential for chilul Hashem.
By the way, in today’s time, would you still solicit a minyan onboard a non-El Al flight?
BP Totty posted:
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Assuming you are referring to the University of Notre Dame, the home of the Fighting Irish sports teams, located near South Bend, Indiana, please post a link to a picture of a sweatshirt with “a cross inside the school’s logo.”
For those not familiar, the Notre Dame logo is the letter N on top of the letter D.
I hope the mods will allow the following link to a picture of a Notre Dame banner. Find the cross.
If not, please just Google “University of Notre Dame banner” and decide for yourself.
Why is the vulgar and repulsive comment of Cedarhurst allowed to stand?
Why was my criticism of it that was posted deleted with no explanation? What’s the purpose of “moderation” if a moderator approves your post and it then disappears?
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Thank you for your concerns, our special team of moderators will look into it.
The Right to Privacy, from the opinion of the United States Supreme Court in the case of Griswold v. Connecticut written by Justice Arthur Goldberg.
BPT, dunno is correct. In addition to black coffee or espresso, you could even order a bottle of water. Oh wait, isn’t that “mayim stam?” LOL.
TheGoq, I agree. It’s also, perhaps, a Chilul Hashem.
sacrilege said,
These are the people who get offended when Jews are called cheap!
Delivery is a convenience, if for whatever reason you cannot make it to the store and the store offers free delivery that is on the store NOT on the delivery person. Show some mentschlichkeit and some hakoras hatov and give the guy/gal a tip!
Great post!
I remember a conversation from the law school library where the first student asked, “How much do you tip if you get a pizza delivered?” and the second student replied, “That depends. Do you ever want to order another pizza?”
A few weeks ago a friend and I were having a cup of coffee in a local Starbucks when a couple very obviously on a shidduch date came in and sat down next to us.
They solved the problem of who pays in a simple way–they didn’t order anything!
aries2756, mikehall12382:
Bravo!
Mod-80, then perhaps the rule can be clarified.
Some of the stuff posted on CR would be embarrassing for an ESL class.
Mod-80,
That’s a superb point. On the subject of rules, from the Yeshiva World RULES OF THE YWN COFFEE ROOM – PLEASE READ, http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rules-of-the-ywn-coffee-room-please-read:
Topic and Tone
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5 – Please try to post in a language somewhat resembling English. . .If your comment is not written in normal English, it will not be approved.
I request that you step up your enforcement of this rule.
Midwest2, what chutzpah!
Maybe it is you who should have gone to a shiur in derech eretz.
For the record, I comply with all the laws regarding keeping my sidewalk clean. Not only that, but because I have a driveway, I clean part of the street as well so I can get out.
I am opposed to a further, hidden tax on property owners to require them to do that which is the city’s responsibility.
As for calling me a “beheima,” apologize or I will ask the mods to ban you.
hadassa, please take your criticism elsewhere. You don’t know me; I suspect my sidewalk is cleaner than yours.
I would ask our esteemed council members to consider sponsoring legislation to require owners of corner properties to clear paths to the intersection so that pedestrians don’t have to climb over mounds of increasingly-icy snow.
I am confident that the person who wrote this is not a property owner. Everyone who owns a house knows about the real estate tax increase that went into effect on January 1. What are we paying for? This past week, we in Borough Park didn’t even get snow plow service for our taxes until very late.
If you want to see more of the sidewalk shoveled than is already required by existing law, bring your liberal “progressive” friends out with you and do it yourself!
It helps if the post is in English.
If I say “English is a holy language” will that motivate some here to learn it? 🙂
I’ve been here only a few months and this topic keeps coming up.
I think French is more a “holy language” than Yiddish since before Yiddish even existed, Rashi used French in his commentary on the Torah.
Dave Hirsch, how did you code a hyperlink?
Finally, a “nes fun himmel!” TMB has posted something I can support.
TMB, how is the President?
GAW, I apologize for the confusion; I was trying to be funny, hence the wink. I was alluding to the opening of the “television ownership” CR thread.
GAW, Thank you.
Do you read English-language books, just so I know to whom I am talking? 😉
Wolf said,
. . .”anachronism” (i.e. the idea that we should go back in time and place futuristic objects in the past. . .
This sounds like the plot of a television show called “Star Trek,” assuming that is, that one had a television. Oh wait, I forgot, you can watch it on the internet.
It’s odd that they are calling this the Kosher Lamp. In the past, something that was designed to be permitted on Shabbos usually had that word as a prefix, e.g. Shabbos Clock for a timer switch.
I’m waiting for the Shabbos Microwave. 🙂
Several people have used the word “anachorism” [sic]. What is the actual word you mean?
havesomeseichel, I’m sorry, but you are woefully misinformed. The ACLU rarely takes criminal cases except when they feel an important constitutional issue is involved.
I’m glad you’re not opposed to the right to counsel; it’s a constitutional right.
The doctor in my shul is far from an “apikorus” but rather a frum Jew.
Rav Moshe did not see him for a particluar illness but only for an occasional examination.
Clearly if one is absolutely opposed to college learning, one should not patronize those who are college graduates except, of course, in case of life and death.
Moderator-80, how would any rabbi know that what is taught in college history courses is pure lies?
You mean John Hancock didn’t really sign the Declaration of Independence?
The Lubavitcher Rebbe Z”TL went to the Sorbonne and was an engineer.
please do not ask for personal information
There is a doctor in my shul who has hanging in his office a framed letter thanking him for the excellent medical care he provided to Rav Moshe Z”TL.
I presume Rav Moshe knew that he attended college and medical school, and not online.
AinOhdMilvado said:
Criminals involved in gun violence are given way too light of a sentence, IF they are sentenced at all (and not gotten off completely by some ACLU lawyer).
1. When was the last time you saw an ACLU lawyer defending a criminal case?
2. Are you opposed to the right to counsel?
The statement attributed to the rabbis was quite vague especially with line such as asking that everyone “purge television-viewing from their homes”
What exactly does this mean and are there exceptions, e.g. for parnassah?
311–No Snow Plow Came Through Page:
Note: No responsibility is accepted for the use for shortened links.
Here is a direct link to the “no snow removal page” of the 311 website:
youre long link was causing some viewing problems here.
either use tinyurl of figure some other way. sorry
Aishes Chayil, please re-read TMB’s statement:
Television viewing is an aveira gomur in of itself.
Despite the grammar, it’s clear what he believes.
TMB, for someone who claims not to watch television, you sure seem to know (actually not know) a great deal about how some people are dressed, first the “weather girls” and now about the members of Congress and the City Council.
Who is the rav who says looking a congresswoman in a pants suit speaking at a congressional hearing on video is assur? And if it is assur for you, is it assur for someone else who needs to watch it for parnassa?
If the internet is muttar for business, why isn’t TV (specifically certain channels with no commercials) equally muttar? What’s wrong with CSPAN, for example? Or how about The New York City Council channel?
Hatzoloh robocalled saying “Don’t take your car out today. This is not a joke.”
A Jew can own a television set and watch only acceptable programs in the same way that a Jew can own a computer with an internet connection and only look at acceptable websites.
No. Get a Chevrolet Suburban. It’s much more balabatish.