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ZD,

“The issue isnt bussing, its seperate busing which costs extra because many times the same buses have to do almost the same route at least twice one for the boys and one for the girls.”

A convenient lie by the “activists”.

You probably are aware that there are separate schools for boys and girls. Thus, how would one route serve both boys and girls, that have to be at separate schools at the same time. Schools that are not in the same are at all.

What about the busing that is paid for public school students that go to school outside the district?

“Art Music and Athletics are not extras, they are very important to the community unfortunatly the frum community downplays these things , but it doesnt mean the other communties . In fact there is a state requirement for Art and music in the curriculum.”

There were specific items that NYSED instructed ERCSD to cut from their budget to balance the budget, specific “Extra-Curricular” items. Do you know what extra-curricular means?

“As far as special ed, generally those students are usually just educated in public schools, however in Ramapo they are usually bused to Kiryat Joel (The frum ones) and The cost is about double what it would cost to educate them in the regular public schools”

This is wholly untrue. In fact one of special ed schools that does receive funding and is a frequent target of the “activists” (as defined earlier) costs the ERCSD SIGINICANTLY less per student than what the costs of providing those services in the public school system itself costs. Significantly.

And there is a lot of money paid to other districts for East Ramapo residents that attend schools in different districts, including out of state that are for regular public school students (this is all in the public financial statements). There is no reason why paying the public school district in KJ would be any different.

You really are completely unaware of reality. You are completely way off base.

GAW,

The Agudah’s point is that they should do the right thing, not what is easier.

Such an excuse itself proves that the monitor is inappropriate.

I am sure the Board of ERCSD would not be allowed to use a reason for doing something.

ZD,

It is clear that you are completely unaware of the facts.

“Against public schools and try to eliminate it”? Where do you eve get this from?

Even the hateful so calls Ctivists, such as the ??? Ari Hart, makes no such claim. And his rant are full of lies and inaccuracies.

The real picture is that the state funding formula is highly flawed because there are mandated services (That means required by law) that the district must provide to all students, those in public AND in non-public schools and the formula only accounts for those in public schools.

There is also a cap, by state law, to the amount that school taxes can be raised each year. After paying for mandated services, such as busing and special education, the remaining budget does not allow for unlimited Extra Curicular programs and certain capital expenditures must be delayed as well.

If you read the “Activists” rhetoric (and they are activists like the Aryan Brotherhood are activists) you would see that they want no services at all to go to children who are on non-public schools. Not busing and not special education. This is all on their web sites. They use the budget shortfall for the district as an opportunity for to express their thinly veiled hate of the Orthodox Jews. And the overwhelming majority of the activists are not even from the district. Even Meryl Tisch, she would rather write an op-ed full of gross inaccuracies rather than own up that her agency has completely messed up the funding formula.

But you somehow managed to make a more egregious claim than even these so called activists. It must be because you really are clueless about the facts and situation.

How about posting LH in English in the YWN Coffee Room, is that ok?

Was this a fundraiser? Or was it supposed to an event in and of itself? It seems that it was just to be some form of “education” program. Which they solicited sponsorships for.

I doubt that they really could have made money on the food itself. It must be pretty expensive to acquire these unusual foods, certainly in kosher varieties.

Further to the point, reading the menu, other than the strangeness of the combinations, it did not appear that there was anything on the menus that it was surprising to find out that it was kosher.

To ZD,

Your comment above “When it comes to Kashruth,w e generally hold that if one frum jew holds something is Kosher, you can eat it.” Is misstated/misinformed. That is not what ?? ??? ???? ???????? means. Nor is it what establishes mesorah. A case in point is swordfish.

charliehall

“69 million Americans voted to give him a job.”

Which means that 166 million plus eligible voters did not.

Health,

The fact is that a limp is not the sole defining characteristic of a handicapped person. They may have a marriage handicap in addtition to the physical handicap that prevents shidduchim from being considered.

DY,

Your’s would be a better question on the “Going to EY for a date” thread.

Joseph,

Who said there is any issue to attend a wedding during sefira? The issue is making a wedding, not attending.

Tiferes Rifka

DY,

You are not understanding my question.

I do not see how the mechanism can actually do it. I am not asking halachacially, I am asking bimetzios. I am asking that if it works by the sensor sensing a pulse of light, that’s fine, the light goes on. What makes it go off? Moving the plastic in front off the sensor won’t work, because it is not a continuous beam of light, it was only intermittent. So most of the time there is no pulse of light, what is now going to make the light turn off when you move the plastic piece down again?

Joseph,

How does it work then?

I thought the idea was that there is a randomly emitted light emitted, not a constant light nor a light on a constant schedule. When you the switch, the eventual emitted light can be detected by the sensor and that is what either turns on or off the light.

Now that the switch is up, what is going to change that status? Doesn’t the light source continue to emit light sporadically? And the when you move the switch to the other position, how does that let the sensor know to change the status, presumably, as far as the sensor should know the fact that no light has hit it can either be a function of the sensor being blocked or just that the it has randomly not emitted.

Although I guess the sensor can be tied to the emitter that it is aware when the random emission is made and if it does not detect an emission that is made, the switch will then again change for on to off or vice versa.

That would seem to defeat the randomness to me.

It would not be muttar on Yom Tov since you are creating a new fire. Not lighting from an existing fire.

ZD,

You really don’t have to bother them with the video. All you have to is ask them “Do you reccomend using the kosher switch as a lechatchila in a residential setting”.

If it seems that there rePonse is not in conformity with what you understood from the video, you can ask them that. If they question the video, I doubt they will fell it a bother that you bring it to their attention. Quite the contrary.

ZD,

I don’t see how it is similar, at all, to a Kosher Lamp. You are not uncovering a light which is already lit and shining.

I saw what Rabbi Olebaum said, I would not call it an endorsement. He does not say that you are welcome to use it. He says ask your Rav. Very big difference.

ZD

And many don’t. And many Africans don’t.

I know of Ganapathi, and Manpreet and Sharada, all Asian. All in professional positions.

None of those names are Jiddish either.

I would not give a Jiddish name, it sounds like a game from the Harry Potter series.

A Yiddish name, on the other hand sounds like it comes from Yid.

ZD,

You really should pull your head out of the sand. If were not anti-semitism, the comments would be directed solely at the perpetrators. By dint of painting everyone one by the actions of a minute minority proves that they are using this as a convenient excuse for expressing their bigotry.

And it is not only non Jews or non Orthodox who do this.

Cons – Should the unfortunate need for a get arise, they may have to figure out how to spell the “English” name in the get, certainly if it one of the non common names.

Is Chaim or Chaya harder to pronounce than many Asian names or African names?

Or Le-a, for that matter?

Charlie,

1) Thank you for proving my point so well about OO.

2) The ecoarification being made is that the law is being carried way too far, and that providing protection to groups that classify themselves solely by their perverted proclivities while at the same repressing the rights of actual legitimate groups/classes as defined by the framers of the constitution is obscene and perverted reasoning. Since perverted and obscene (yes the Torah calls it Toeivah, you don’t find thieves being considered a protected class) is the very definition of their class, it explains why they feel it is correct.

The stories you bring are actually proof that the law is being carried to far. That you are now relegating religious beliefs to the back off the bus by making people do things against their wishes.

Apparently it has been determined that the law in Indiana was only applying to two non-Jewish women marrying. Because it was poshut that if there were Jewish women or men involved they were never assumed to be protected by the law.

And we know that there are no irreligious Jewish men or women who are homosexual, correct? Because it seems that is the poiton that Sam & Simcha are taking.

Shmuely Yanklowitz would argue against this (whether there are Jewish homosexuals He clearly feels that they are a preferential class. But I am not sure that he would fall into the Jewish category, based on his own press release)

ZD,

I asked for a source. Can you please provide?

It too, is from the 3 chamuros.

Sam: “It’s not L’ha’avir Al Das.” Of course it is. Lehanoas Atzmon they could just be quiet. They are making themselves a protected class. They expect preferential treatment because of their perversion.

They want to change perverted way of life to preferred way of life. LA

ZD,

So your question is based on suppositions?

I don’t think its a question that you cannot help with the parts that would be avodah Zara.

You haven’t said why it should be mutar to assist in gay marriage.

The issue is not doing business with a gay person. The concern is that you are assisting them in doing something that is completely against halacha.

ZD,

“The Toeiva is not against Halacha,”

It’s not?