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Back to the OP, about Sean’s ludicrous statements. That are not even his original idiocies. They were originally spouted by egalitarian rabbits.
What bothers these lunatics so much about Purim is that the nes of Purim was a nes done “b’hester” and seemed to many like regular teva. That is why that cannot handle the nes of Purim. These morons deny that there is hasgocha and that even what appear to be every day occurance include ?????.
That flies in the face of their whole system of disbelief in HKB”H. ????.
By being intentionally obtuse and ignoring facts, you show that you know that your comments are baseless.
I will therefore not respond further to your silliness.
It was clearly not a lashon guzma, it was a clear psak that Goren’s psokim can not be relied on. Apparently even retroactively. These were not just signed by an individual, it was signed by gedolim and rabbonim across the board.
You are right that this is consistent with retroactive invalidation that you talk about now, that when someone uses bases for a psak, or as a reason to accept a ger, that is completely out of the realm of Halacha, it has to be protested in the strongest of terms and it has to be made clear that the (in these cases) the geirus never occurred.
A Geirus BD that never requires kabbolas mizvos, the only requirement being army service, is clearly beyond the pale and its geurus is invalid, never happened. Just like all these gedolim paskened by Goren, that his psokim were NEVER psokim.
That a psak, or a geirus, that is made solely for political reasons and has no basis in Halacha is not a psak or geirus and those who do so have proven that even their past psokim or geirus are unreliable and null and void.
How can you say that “many people testified that he had not left his gentile ways” when not a single reliable, or even remotely believable, witness has been identified. (An army buddy of the Langer boy who married a non Jew and was totally irreligious has no neemanus in such a case. It was not even remotely meisiach lfi tumoi). In fact that statement had been conclusively disproven. (Joseph never called Borokowski a “Tzaddik Gomur” he said a share torah. Big difference).
And it is “your belief” that there was nothing unusual with Goren’s hetter, is soundly contradicted by every major Posek of the time.
So much so that if this were in time of Sanhedrin, he would likely be considered a ??? ????.
There have been disagreements over psokim in the past, but I hhave not heard the proclamations by all those same poskim say as a blanket statement that no psak of ( in this case Goren) can be relied upon. That is unusual. Go look at who made those proclamations.
It seems you accept the word of Moshe Dayan over R Shach, R Moshe, R Elyashiv, and R Shlomo Zalman, tthe Steipler, to name just a few in regards to this serious Halachic matter.
Ok. As long as it is clear.
You can go to the same JO issue referenced above and on pages 20 & 21 there is analysis of the bases provided by R Goren for his “hetter”.
“Team israel beat the Netherlands 4-2 with their Mascot, Mench on a Bench”
Wow, that must have been some sight.
I wonder if Mench on a Bench was hurt during the beating.
“1. His conversion would only be invalid if he was an apikoros at the time of his conversion.”
Not if the alleged bet din was the IRF, which the gerut bet din was headed an acknowledged apikoros.
Then there was no acceptable gerut, even if you were to assume that Sean has just recently changed to apikorsut. Which is what what I said earlier as well.
If Farber was the person who did the conversion, then it’s no question that the figure was deficient. And unless he just recently when off the deep end, his statements make it clear that he was not mekabel kol hatorah kulah as emes, so that is another deficiency.
What an inane thread.
Starts off with an assumption that is not based in reality. Certainly not if you are referring to chareidi yeshivas.
Everyone knows that anyone who learnt in Brisk wears a sweater. They all do. And when I was recently visiting Eretz Yisroel, I lead in the Mir and saw many bochurim and yungeleit wearing sweaters.
I guess it is +1 for silly people who think this really happens. (Sarcasm).
At least Fiddler has something that relates to Judaism.
Portnoy’s Complaint does not have that. You have not said what would make it “Jewish” literature. Sure a non Jew might call it that because it promotes a stereotype of Jews they would like portrayed, but that hardly makes it Jewish.
I fail to understand why anyone one frum would deem “Portnoy’s Complaint” to be Jewish literature.
Perhaps the Chosen can be called such because the story has something to do with Yiddishkeit. I vaguely remember the Chosen, I read it so many years ago.
I have heard that one of the reasons why Chasidim wear a heavy Atara on their Talis is because they wear “zeidene” (satin or silk) kapotes which were slippery. The heavy atara kept the Talis from slipping off.
There is a concept in Halacha that “sicha” is like “achila”. That is why there are people who are makpid not to use non-kosher products to apply to their body, such as ointments, oils, perfumes or make up and the like.
I have never heard that “levisha” being considered like “achila”. There is no reason to refrain from wearing objects from non kosher animals, while there is a reason to refrain from spreading animal products from non kosher animals on one’s body.
Rutledge Jewish Studies Series, Rabbis of Our Times.
You are a funny asking for sources. You have never provided sources for any of the statements you have asserted are in the Gemara or in Halacha. Never.
was this comment “The Earth is not the center of the Universe, its not even the center of the Solar System ”
in response to
“The earth is the center of the universe for us.”?
Because you apparently completely misunderstood what that poster said. You did not read or understand that last 2 words of the sentence.
The story with the Chazon Ish not looking at Ben-Gurion (taking off his glasses) is printed in a number of places.
Even your so called “printed source” which is just something on the internet by a completely unreliable source is conflicted by other reports on the internet.
I think what you really mean to say is that you would trust a secular, even anti religious source, apparently no matter how often that source has be shown to print gross inaccuracies and blatant lies, over Orthodox sources.
That is your prerogative. As it is our prerogative to decide how to interpret your reliance on those sources.
“I did a quick google about the meeting between Ben Gurion and the Chazon Ish. Only one other person was in the room with them, Yitzchak Navon.”
That is not true, and it obvious to anyone who bothers to read the articles you reference. (Unless you are referring to a recent article in Haaretz, which any intelligent individual knows to dismiss as made up bunk)
All the articles say that at the time these articles were written (in 2011-2012) Navon was the only attendee STILL ALIVE, it is clear that there were additional attendees. The supposition that Novon was the only other attendee makes no sense.
“I wasnt the one who brought up Tinok Sheneba for 7 Mizvoth Bnei Noach, I just gave an example how its very possible someone never heard of the torah”
Did someone else write the following in your name just before?
“There are some indigenous peoples who never heard of the bible or if they heard of it, it came from missionaries and they might be negatively inclided towards it. Are you going to say someone who never heard of the Bible is not a Tinok Shenesba?”
I am not sure you know what the words ????? ????? means. And I am sure you did not understand ITFT meant.
A person is obligated by the halachos in the Torah. Someone who does not Joseph certain halachos would be consider a Tasha and there are specific treatment for a rasha. There are time that there is a “heter” called ????? ?????.
Normally one says that ignorance of the law does not exempt one from the law. I am pretty sure you strongly advocate that with US laws. There is no reason to say less for Halacha.
ITFT was explaining that there is no “heter” applicable to the ??? ????? ??? ??. It makes no difference if they are aboriginals or other indigenous people. Nowhere does it say that ??? ????? do not apply to them. It is your own unsubstantiated ?????.
I guess it is quite possible that you did
possible but highly unlikely. I have no prejudices here, as evidenced by the variance in posts and posters allowed through.
“She is under no obligation to follow the Psaks of Rav Shach if Chabad has a different Shitta (I have no idea what the Chabad’s psaks are in this circumstance). If the OP wishes to follow Rav Schecter or Rav Lichtenstein, she may also do so (Again I have no idea what their Psaks are in this circumstance) “
So you do not know what a Chabad Rav would pasken, and you do not know know Rav Hershel Schechter would pasken or What Rav Aharon Lichtenstien would have paskened, but you seem to be sure that this is just a chumra?
I wonder, who you do know, other than possibly Dov Linzer, would say it is muttar.
I am going to make an observation about shaking hands from my experience and other’s who’ve I’ve talked to and I an limiting it to that topic. The issue about airplane seating has nothing to do with the OP’s question nor anyone else’s comments.
I suspect that your insistence that “Big Clients” will be insulted is because your interaction is solely over the internet. You do internet sales.
I have been working in an industry which involves significant face to face client interaction, including meeting with corporate officers and corporate boards.
There has never, in my experience, been a negative response to someone who respectfully says that do not shake hands for religious purposes. And I have heard the same from my acquaintances who also work in large corporate environments.
You will note that I said respectfully. And I am not paskening what someone should do. But it is clear that those who avoid shaking hands with the other gender are not just following a big chumra. There are many poskim who hold this is normative halacha and is ossur gomur and a kula is not applicable.
This is not something,to quote your comment of above, “you need to figure this out for yourself”. Would you give that advice for medical issues, just figure it out for yourself?
These are complex halachos of a very serious nature, that are taken seriously by frum people.
I thought any mention of a hat brought an automatic response from Charlie Hall about a fedora.
You’ve had this discussion already numerous times and it was clearly e planned that buying a house on 46th can very likely entail a shailah for a rov. There are many variables that are shailos that should be asked if one is concerned with following Halacha. There are also items that may be Hashkafic.
And quinoa on pesach may not be a “da’as Torah” shailah as much as a straight halachic shailah.
Do you mean female vs make?
Your question is based on a supposition that is a fantasy.
Who said there is no reason? Who said the reason has to be explained to everyone (and it’s only an assumption that a reason wasn’t given). Parents should not give a reason for every rule they make for their children.
The principal did not say that the girl’s cannot wear high tops, she only said they can’t wear to school. (Read OP comment). So I am not sure what you mean about doing something different behind her back.
You differentiation between girls in charedi schools vs mo is inot factual in the least. One would wonder whether you have met girls who went to any schools.
Your comment is demeaning to girls in all schools.
It seems reasonable for a school to have a dress code. Perhaps this is a newish item (I don’t know, my daughters only wore after an injury) so the dress code was updated.
There is no reason to get carried away and say these are unreasonable Chumros.
Just like professional offices have dress codes , a school can also and it is not just tznius matters.
Both the Ga’vad and Ra’vad of the Eidah Hachareidis speak fluent English.
“If someone keeps 60-70% of Halacha. The Charedi communties will look at such a person as a sinner and might throw them out if they dont immediately agree to abide. The more modern communities will look at the 60-70% that they do keep”
This is a misunderstanding.
Chareidim do not look to throw people out.
Keeping half Shabbos is not keeping Shabbos at all.
Your definition certainly does not apply to knowledgeable MO.
Your difference would seem to be more related to those who have robust Jewish education or not.
There are differences, but this is not it.
“I would define MO as a Talmid or follower of a Talmid of Rav Yoshe Ber, whether it is Rabbi Twersky HYD, Rabbi Shechter, Rabbi Meiselman, or Rabbi Avi Weiss.”
This is a very unique definition. Not one that I have seen shared by anyone else. Certainly not the people who you are calling MO, except perhaps Rabbi Shachter.