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Adam Rogers has a great article on Wired that gives some clarity into what’s going on.
– There has NOT yet been a clinical trial of Dr. Zelenko’s protocol.
– Dr. Zelenko is to the best of his medical ability treating his patients. He’s not studying a medication.
– The heart trouble came from Brazil where they (recklessly) used MASSIVE DOSES of hydroxychloroquine.
– Waiting until patients are critical to start giving hydroxychloroquine is foolish because obviously it can’t reverse organ failure.
– Taken EARLY zinc has been effectively used to shorten the duration of other coronaviruses such as the common cold.
– The “media” turned on hydroxychloroquine they way they ran stories against masks because of shortages of the meds needed for people with Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
– Much of the media wants to stick it to Trump.
– Much of the media finds it in their interests to confuse people (my opinion).
– If the Zelenko Protocol works Corporate Pharma leaves billions on the table (my opinion).Is the Zelenko Protocol quack medication? He’s not selling anything. Quacks usually push an unproven/ disproven “alternative” remedy. I can find no other studies combining hydroxychloroquine with ZINC. Is he trying to sell copies of his book? Is he insane? Is he lying about his numbers? Does he pre-screen for people who likely would recover anyway? He just combined treatments used in other countries and started people on them earlier. What was the outcome of his 1,200 patients whom he didn’t treat with the three-drug cocktail?
I know if I feel myself getting covid symptoms, based on Dr. Z’s 5-page letter, and his videos, unless something clearly better comes out, I would be willing to try his protocol myself.
Unless Dr. Zelenko is a fraud and insane (which is NOT the sense I get from listening to him and reading his letter) there is something very odd with the way his treatment is being ignored in the U.S (and the Jewish world). Even TYW didn’t publish his recent 5-page letter. I get that the doctor’s choice of yarmulke (taken at face value) indicates a massive blind spot. But he’s a real doctor and I don’t see evidence of anyone else replicating his protocol and disproving his findings. Dr. Z says he’s treated 1600 COVID patients and used the protocol on 450. Only one of the 450 died and that patient had preexisting leukemia. How about the other 1,200 that weren’t candidates from the three-drug cocktail. Why weren’t they candidates? He doesn’t say how many of those (if any) died. Are there no readers of TYW in K.J. who have first hand info on what’s really happening up there? Or can TYW interview Dr. Z directly?
I’m still on the fence. The media loves confusing people. According to Dr. Zelensky in the correct dose Hydroxychloroquine unlocks the door and Zinc fights the illness. The third medicine targets secondary infections. Maybe this study only tested Hydroxychloroquine. Next they’ll release news about only testing zinc and say that doesn’t work. Then they’ll test the two together but in too high doses and say that causes too many side effects. Then they’ll test hydroxychloroquine with zinc and azythromycin but too late in the game and say that doesn’t work. Then they’ll test it on people who in Zelensky’s opinion aren’t candidates for this treatment so that won’t work either. Eventually they’ll get to Dr. Zelinsky’s exact protocol and say wow this actually works. Of course there is the possibility that in pre-screening the patients who get this treatment Dr. Zelensky is selecting patients who would recover without the treatment and that it’s no better than placebo. I want to see the results of a trial duplicating Dr. Zelensky’s exact protocol. Unless they’re suppressing the news, I’m not seeing reports of people dying in KJ.
Instead of a handshake people should say sholem aleichem along with two tenuos of the yeshivishe thumb. The respondant says aleichem sholem with two slightly larger tenuos of the thumb.
User176: If you are not afraid because you are in a category of people with a good chance of coming through the coronavirus with a mild experience (though there are no guarantees) and you want to do good by Yidden maybe it’s right for you to volunteer with Chevra Kadisha or in an ICU unit.
Hi lowerourtuition11210: The way I understand it, the kids will bring the COVID-19 home and infect their parents and (if not isolated) grandparents who will experience this novel coronavirus differently than the kids do. My initial reaction was to crack ‘jokes’ such as, we have to learn more, as it says, “s’nu COVID la’Torah …” But now it’s sunk in. COVID-19 is real. At the current rate of infection (no matter how much you wash your hands) 40%-70% of the population will get sick. Most people will have a “mild” form of the disease. Many (numbers-wise not percentage-wise) will get very sick and die. We need to try and slow the rate of infection. Because if the lines for treatment at hospitals start looking like the lines for toilet paper at Target, doctors will start making decisions about who gets on a ventilator and who doesn’t. That’s where Italy is today. Who wants to be responsible for bringing home the virus that sends a family member to their death without a tahara?
“BH 40 mosdos zenen ofen heint” – Who needs grandparents anyway. And do kids really need their diabetic fathers and mothers, especially if the parent also has high blood pressure? Better sit in class another week. If the older generation suffers or c”v dies from Coronavirus, the tinokes shel beis rabon can get their delicious nosh and soda from someone else. (sarcasm)
I think a consensus is forming that Hadloka wood must be glatt (800 grit minimum) and hiddur mitzvah is zoch wood, i.e. real lumber (no particle board that has glue and other fillers). Mehadrin min hamehadrin is (for example) old growth, eye of the redwood, only using the dense center of each log. The rest of the wood you can use to burn the Chometz or even bake matzah. Just not for the bonfire. Needless to say, Hadloka wood should be chopped by a chassidishe lumberjack.
maybe Pro Schnapps is worried that the wood will get wet and somehow distill and Methanol (wood alcohol) will form? PSA: drinking wood alcohol causes blindness.
if you also need for the wood to be glatt, while you’re at Home Depot get some sandpaper.
What happens if the Corona Virus spreads to the U.S.? The nutjobs argue against everything the medical community/govt advises to do.
A deal breaker question would be, Does your family play nun-gimmel-hey-shin? Or do you hold from gimmel takes the pot? And more importantly, do you let the dreidel spin? or do you spin and smack it down?
If the Torah was on board with going to doctors at the time of the exodus then using kal vechomer you got to go to doctors in 2019 when Western medicine actually knows what its talking about.
Mishpatim 21 posuk 19: “and the cost to him to be thoroughly healed,” is understood by mainstream Jewish commentators as doctors’ bills since it doesn’t cost anything to hope and pray that Hashem heals. Which in the Shulchan Aruch is then cited as a mitzvah to go to a doctor when you’re sick.
coffee addict: see Rashi on Exodus 21:18-19
Since Torah says to follow doctor’s medical opinions why isn’t anti-vaxxing propoganda banned from YWN as kefirah?
If you make large stuffed cabbage rolls and small stuffed cabbage rolls and serve one of each side by side it looks like a Torah scroll at the end/beginning of the cycle.
If I share someone’s music without permission could that be considered loshon hara? (and if the music is bad motzei shem ra?)
Personally I buy about 10 Jewish CDs a year from a store in Boro Park. It makes me happy to support the new singers and bands. Many are absolutely first rate. The music scene is more than doing their part to unite the larger Jewish community.
Joseph: I’ve seen videos of Shabbos demonstrations where people are getting out of control. Maybe it’s not rioting on the scale of the Ethiopians, but it’s not “civil disobedience.” And if memory serves, I’ve read stories of police having to rescue ambulance drivers and phone company repairmen who entered Charedi neighborhoods on legitimate public business. What’s that about? If people want to protest chillul Shabbos why don’t they stand or sit in the street and sing? Why throw stones? And then if the cops drag to jail people who offer no resistance you can claim civil disobedience. And if they sang on the sidewalk in a beautiful way not blocking traffic and the “Zionist” police on horseback dispersed people with clubs for blocking pedestrians you’d maybe even garner international support of the press.
Too Geshmak: Having lived through the Crown Heights riots of 1991 and out in L.A. during those riots (where I felt afraid for my life both times) I don’t condone rioting. But it’s clear to me that Charedi riots in Israel erupt from lesser issues than people being shot dead by police. I don’t ever recall hearing about Israeli cops killing frum Yidden. But if the Israeli police were to summarily shoot dead some (theoretical) Rebbe whose Chassidim are known for demonstrating and then those Chassidim rioted I’d probably say well what did you expect?
Reb klugeryid, when’s the last time the Israeli police shot and killed an unarmed Charedi?
This is how the original question sounds to me.
Do I still have to drop a token in the turnstile before getting on the subway (before Metro cards) if I drop the same amount of money in a pushka before leaving the house?
To elaborate. What’s the difference where I give the money? I’m not doing it for me, because I don’t save anything. I gave the money to a local charity. In my opinion the local charity actually gives the public more bang for its buck than the transit authority. So I did a good thing by jumping the turnstile?Yiddish words and phrases such as
– Raboisai mir vellen bentchen (Gentleman we will say grace)
– Itzt iz men mechabed (We now honor)
– (So and so) ruft a sholem zochor (Announces the welcoming of a male offspring)
– Yartzeit (Death anniversary)
are as much part of my Judaism as Purim and Chanukah …
Getting rid of Yiddish for the expediency of English is like tearing down an ornate, functional, landmarked mansion and replacing it with an up to code sterile apartment building with central air and gated parking.– a shailah for which he is not qualified
Conversion, Divorce, Medical Ethics … are three fields that come to mind for which you will likely get a referral (or have your questioned escalated) to a specialist rabbi.
The frum crowd, of course.
you might try “Shabbos kaydish.”
I call it Shabbos to sound frum
to what crowd? (lol)
When I was a kid we called that country Eretz Yisroel. “Israel” felt as weird as calling Shabbos “Saturday.” The super frum called Eretz Yisroel “Eretz Hakaydish.”
To Milhouse: Regarding your post on another thread, to me, ‘hakkeh es shinov’ means knock his teeth out. I tune out when people tell me otherwise. I do my best to forget that this is incorrect, because ‘punch the villain in the mouth’ is a lot more fun than whatever the phrase really means.
My meal late Saturday afternoon is shaleSHUdes, and my meal Sunday morning is “brekkfist.” Not break FAST. The guy who stood at the lectern leading the minyan is said to have davened farren UHmid, or in Brooklyn Yinglish, “davened fi’ the UHmid.”
People shouldn’t brush and certainly not floss. I’ve never seen a rigorous double-blind study showing that having teeth is better than no teeth. And the earlier in life you lose all teeth the less exposure you have to the chemicals in the dentist office. And I’ve seen many happy smiling people without a tooth in their mouth and many people with all their teeth get into bad moods.
What’s this business about taking a bath on Erev Shabbos? Who are you to interfere with how Hashem intends you to smell?
Milhouse: Salton Large Cordless Warming Tray at Target for about $80.
A lot of chabad shuls serve shaleshudes. A lot do not. The out of town Lubavitcher Yeshiva I attended did not serve any food for shaleshudes. We sang a bit and someone said a vort and when my father found that out he asked me to come back home.
If you watch the heartbreaking video of the Gabi & Rivky Holzberg funeral in Kfar Chabad attended by Shimon Peres and other top echelon Israeli politicians you may notice that someone tipped off the government officials before Rabbi Shemtov spoke because there is no sign of Peres, Ehud Barak (I think) and others lest they be associated with anything Rabbi Shemtov had to say or have had to oppose him at that sensitive moment. Shemtov wasn’t going to miss that opportunity to state the official Chabad position which was opposed to the Israeli politics of the day, but the local Israeli Chabad would never risk embarrassing Shimon Peres even if Rabbi Shemtov was delivering the official Chabad (Rebbe’s) position.
“solely to drive people crazy?”
Not TO drive people crazy. But using the incoherence THAT drives people crazy. (The spirit of my comment was tongue in cheek.) The position that belief of Chabad is we are the most anti yet the biggest supporters and see no contradiction.
There’s a YouTube video of R’ Yoel Kahan (his credentials have been discussed in the coffee room many times) talking with Chasidishe guys where R’ Yoel is making that argument, that Beshita Chabad is more anti-Zionist than Satmar … but that now that there’s a country they need to be supported same as any Jewish community anywhere …We do that thing that drives people crazy where we say, beshita we’re more anti-Zionist than Satmar, but we support the Yidden there and they need a strong Government so we support their Government to the max even if they’re Zionist, but really we don’t support them at all even though we support them. Fully.