Old Crown Heights

They’ve been deranged by non-stop propaganda lies against the (usually photoshop filtered) “Orange Man” to the point they say prefer what has happened to major U.S. cities such as Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, New York … than have Donald Trump stay in office.

Mr. Biden is NOT the President elect. The AP has said Biden is the presumptive P.E. and the Democrat Party invented “The Office of The President Elect,” but until the States certify the election and the Electoral College casts its ballots there is no President Elect.

On a side note, Las Vegas has not paid any bets for people who gambled on Biden. Outside the AP/ Democrat Party Media at this time the count is 232 TRUMP vs. 227 BIDEN.

The American people, the world, demands a hand recount in all crucial battleground counties. We need to have confidence in the election.

Somehow in NYC where there was no need to meddle in the vote count, Trump picked up a lot of votes. Same thing in Los Angeles county where Trump picked up 200,000 votes over 2016. No fraud massive vote gain for Trump. Same thing in every battleground state IN-PERSON voting. But somehow people who vote by mail in battle ground states manage to vote in unheard of numbers for the Democrat. Not likely. Stolen election – likely.

Trump promises vaccine coming out very soon. Democrats say he’s lying and delusional. Vaccine comes out as promised. Democrats: you see we told you he was pathologically lying. Huh?

As if Joe Biden will have any say in the matter. He’s calling (wheezing) for “unity” while all around people are calling (shrieking) for blacklists. Joe Biden will be ignored.

If Trump goes the corrupt media will return to bashing Israel multiple times a day in excruciating detail.

In years past, limited mail-in voting produced PROVEN small scale election fraud. This is the first time the U.S. had widespread mail-in voting and people and there are legit concerns of widespread irregularities or even fraud. The people, the world, needs to have confidence in the U.S. election.

There are also reports of “Glitches” with the tabulating machines. We’ll see if the Georgia recount uncovers evidence of more “Glitches” and in whose direction they “Glitched.” There are also screenshots of vote numbers with the names of the candidates in front of those numbers changing positions that should be investigated.

Only one candidate allegedly got 450,000 votes with no down ticket votes. That should be investigated.

Counties allegedly had near 100% turnout. Impossible. Even in countries where voting is mandatory they don’t get above 90% or 95% because things happen to some of the voters between the time the list is made and the election.

25,000 votes allegedly came from nursing homes in jurisdictions that outlaw ballot harvesting. That should be investigated.

Better the truth come out now than after the election is certified or the wrong person takes office. The aspiring candidate may be above board. If he had no idea what his family was up to with regard to alleged influence peddling, why would he know what’s going on deep within some political machine?

se2015 your arguments are not compelling. All the critical/contested states stopped the count officially for the night, and resumed in the wee hours while not being observed, and somehow the candidate who was trailing was now in the lead. That warrants investigation.

This morning I watched a YouTube video POSTED IN 2011 talking about Bedford’s Law vis-à-vis evaluating fraud in elections. So that is real too.

An unnamed source within the house oversite committee remains unnamed. There is also an audio recording (which I heard) purporting to be the meeting with the FBI and the postal worker pressuring him to recant. If that is real, that’s very serious.

When you think of the campaigns the two candidates ran, which aphorism of Toras Emes applies to which candidate?
Lo Yogati Umatzasi – Al Ta’amin
Yogati Umatzasi – Ta’amin

They are leaving in moving trucks because of the leavings on the sidewalks.

If you think the fellow is a human being then he has agency and needs to control “his own context.” And to the extent that he didn’t, he can blame whatever image he sees in the mirror.

King Solomon said the mother of the baby is not the one who is willing to kill the baby in the name of “equality.”

Ubiq – Thank you again for your responses.

Since HCQ is only the ‘Zelenko-recommended’ Ionophore for ZINC I’m now thinking the whole HCQ controversy is akin to a slight-of-hand magic trick. It a distraction from the real question. Which is, does ZINC (taken within the first five days acc. to Zelenko) knock down the coronavirus. No one claims HCQ (by itself) is the magic bullet. And yet, so far, seemingly every article including Fauci’s latest video response knocking the treatment ONLY SAYS HCQ doesn’t work. They drop off mention of zinc in their conclusion.

That you didn’t expect that patient to die is an anecdotal instance of (what I think we already know). Her outcome is NOT the experience most people will have. And that’s what we need to understand. How rare is her outcome? I take vaccines such as the annual flu shot (and post my support of them) because the legit science says the chances of injury are remote. I drive even though that assumes risk. What we really need to know (even without testing everyone) is how many out of 330 million have had this lady’s outcome. Especially if this coronavirus (like the common cold) is here to stay. Neither political party’s desire to control the White House nor any drug company’s profit, or media conglomerates agenda amounts to a hill of beans in relation to the truth of what we’re facing.

I hate going down this road, but I’m really getting the feeling that the mainstream media is acting like the propaganda arm of the needlessly hysterical ‘anti-vaxxer’ movement in regard to the coronavirus. I go to the grocery store every week or so. The employees have pretty much been working straight-thru since March and yet I’ve been made to be afraid of going in there for 20 minutes.

“Please don;t take my word for it. Look at his study table 2 . Where this data is outlined.”
Ubiquitin: In my estimation you’ve 100% established yourself as a good faith poster, I for one don’t need to verify everything you maintain.
Thank you for your patience the example of the laundry soap and explaining the better health of Zelenko Group A and that we have no info at all on the control group. I now get why the medical professionals say Dr. Zev Zel’s research is ‘inconclusive.’ That said, to quote Zelenko, ‘If you’re floundering in the ocean and come upon a piece of driftwood, grab it and hang on. Don’t drown waiting for a rigorous double-blind study on the buoyancy of driftwood.’ I’ve been watching the doctor speak on numerous videos, especially his conversation with ‘Doctor Drew.’ I have zero doubt that Dr. Zelenko is a sane, responsible western medical doctor. Anyone could be in error, but there is nothing about him that gives off an ulterior motive. Unlike quacks who just happen to have the ‘silver bullet’ for sale, Zelenko doesn’t sell HCQ. He’s also unequivocal that it’s the zinc gotten into the cell within the first five days of illness that kill the virus. Every article I read about the ‘studies’ that didn’t find a benefit from HCQ (so far) without exception use a slight of hand. They either discuss HCQ without mention of zinc or make no mention of when they initiated the HCQ treatment. They all seem to have an agenda and ulterior motive (which I imagine to be political or financial).
Can you point me to other studies on HCQ+Zinc+ given to people under 70 within the first five days of illness that found no efficacy?

Rep. Louie Gohmert says he’s ‘all in’ on using hydroxychloroquine + zinc. Thank you for allowing us to see how the treatment will play out in your case. If it works (and I hope it does) I wonder if will HCQ+ Zinc will also cure TDS in future patients who suffer both conditions concurrently.

Also, imagine? We have facilities named after, and monuments to Nazi’s in this country. Who do you think got us to the moon? – Many people have no idea how many NAZIS who were useful to the U.S. / Russia (such as the head of NASA) were allowed to continue their careers.

People can object to statues, but we have a process in this country to effect change, at least we used to, and it wasn’t Marxist Agitators and Race Baiting Organizers leading a nationwide terror campaign.

I should add that in 2000 I initially refused (for no good reason) and ended up in a long conversation with a census bureau employee who came to my house.

I forgot to include drunk on my list. Maybe the person is too shikker to answer a few questions.

The number one reason for not participating in the census is ignorance. Number two absence (which is no problem so we’ll leave that out.) Number three extreme selfishness/inconsideration such as when people say they don’t have the “time.” Which is as about as selfish as opposing Hatzalah because it adds traffic to the road when you want to drive somewhere. Number four is probably anti-government sentiment. People are angry at the government for an unrelated reason so they take it out on the census (which is really a subsection of #1) and then there is illness. Some people are too sick to respond and maybe they have no one to help them. Since the census uses translators (including Yiddish an Hebrew) lack of English is no reason. I guess there are people can claim laziness or something. When a census enumerator is (illegally) thrown out by a frum Yid the chilul Hashem is of the highest magnitude. Not hyperbole at all. It reveals (or confirms) a level of ignorance (and their lack of that person’s education and / or civility) that’s hard to overestimate. The 10-year census of every person is required by the constitution. That’s the only obligation for every person in the United States. You can’t name a single other one. Because there isn’t any. When someone refuses the census (even though we no longer prosecute) it’s a very poor showing in the eyes of the employees of the census bureau. And when a Yid foolishly behaves that way, it’s also a massive, needless chilul Hashem.

The U.S. Census brings brocho ($$$) and representation to states in direct proportion to the population calculated (indirectly as Milhouse pointed out). Anyone who doesn’t cooperate, especially if you refuse when the census bureau follows up with your household directly, causes a Chilul Hashem of the highest magnitude.

Many white people including many in the media and academia aren’t able to distinguish or consistently blur the line between thugs and black people. For all their “woke” talk, they’re the ones who consider people with dark skin less than fully human, from low expectations to thinking thugs have a “right” to riot. I watched this idiot reporter interviewing black demonstrators feeling so good about herself for being so progressive with NO CLUE how much most black people hate being told they’re “WELL SPOKEN” after they make a coherent point. Yes. Black people are from the min ha’medaber. Their speech usually correlates with their level of education. My black neighbor does not go to the demonstrations. As it was in 1979, 1991, 1992, Ferguson (I don’t remember the riots of the 1960s) the 2020 riots will hurt good black people more than anyone else. The thugs will go through what they stole and they’ll still be thugs. Finding success in life is hard work for most people. People who want to better their station can. No one can do it for you. People who want to even find a way to turn their lives around in prison. Some people have a head start. Some people get lucky. Some people get what they don’t deserve. But focusing on them doesn’t help. Sometimes it takes more than one generation. Parents sacrifice for their children. In some inner city neighborhoods kids who try to be good get beat up by young bullies and thugs. Riots won’t change that. How about the Ad Council run an unrelenting campaign telling (inner city) kids that it’s okay to be courteous to a police officer. Telling them what they can say to peer-pressure that urges them to risk their lives fighting cops.

100% I don’t think it was ok to kill Floyd. It was wrong. No diukim. The punishment for passing counterfeit twenties and resisting arrest, is not death by cop. But I don’t hold from glorifying Floyd as if he was some upstanding guy. I don’t see one good thing about Floyd and I really I don’t feel bad that he’s gone. He won’t be able to rob anyone else at gunpoint or pass bogus money. He was and remained a thug until his bitter end.

Floyd was an unrepentant criminal who was committing crime up until 20 minutes before his death. Even with his dying breath he expressed no remorse for his life of crime. He should not be extolled as a hero, painted on murals as if he were a role model. He died on illegal street drugs during an episode of resisting arrest. The cops did not drag an upstanding citizen with dark skin (of which there are many) away from his productive life and “strangle” him. And what happened to statistics regarding resisting arrest and poor outcome. Isn’t picking “anecdotes” a way to get bad information?

Since I moved out of Crown Heights after our experience with “peaceful protests” of 1991, sorry if I seem insensitive to anyone on this subject.

“There was never a possibility of making it go away by staying home”?
– Yes. Flatten the curve always meant stagger the rate of infection so that the hospitals and their staff don’t get overwhelmed.
And need to open back up to save the economy (and other health problems caused by extended lock down) says nothing about the terrible tzar people might endure until death when catching covid due to opening things back up.

(Unless they prove or decide to accept and make available the Zelenko Protocol which Dr. Zelenko very much still insists works and apparently the President of the United States believes and is on himself, or they come up with something better.)