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popa_bar_abbaParticipant
writersoul:
That isn’t really relevant. I’m not telling the RCA what to think about what Rav Yosef said. They can think he was wrong. But they cannot abandon all semblance of respect and attack him in such a horrific manner.
My only regret is that I am not a member of the RCA to be able to resign in protest. I emailed my protest to two of the signers; their email addresses are publicly available online.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantDamoshe:
Yes, my limud zchus is that there was an error and it was supposed to read like that. And I hope that is the truth, but it doesn’t say that. They need to correct and apologize.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI didn’t say that.
And it doesn’t possibly make a difference. You cannot say such horrific things about gedolim even if they did something wrong.
My only limud zchus is that there was an error in the printing and it was meant to refer only to the kids at the wedding. And I’m waiting for the apology.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanttruthsharer:
You think that it is ok for 3 rabbis who are elected to run the RCA to say things like that about one of the gedolei hador? This is insane. Insane.
popa_bar_abbaParticipant147: Edit: I just read a secular news story about that, and it described the wedding people as “youths”. But, if it was a rav, then I should not have said “dude”.
zdad: If they assume Rav Yosef was misled by his advisors, then that is still no reason to say such things about him.
Feif: The letter was not signed by any of those rabbonim. Meanwhile, the RCA has about 1000 members–I surely don’t attribute this letter to all of them. In fact, regarding the rabbonim you mention, we might collectively wonder why the letter was not signed by them, and might easily infer the answer.
So yes, your post is a cute retort that if they cannot bash for bashing, then how can I bash for bashing for bashing, but it is misplaced.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantRabbi Dr. Tendler ought to be heeded. He is a man of great halakhic knowledge and immense scientific knowledge, as well.
heh heh. Him saying it is a reason to not do it.
He truly confounds me. One wonders why if he thinks something is so urgent and so important as to warrant malshinus, that he hasn’t managed to convince other rabbonim of the importance. He certainly has access to gedolim to try to convince, since they are his brother’s in law.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis psak sounds curious. Does it apply to a ger toshav? Is that discussed in the halacha? (my otzar hachochma was running too slow last night, and now I’m too busy to look it up)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMany answers attempt to bend Torah into a quasi-scientific notion. That is utterly unsound and disrespectful of the Torah. HaShem does not need rational proof and does not want us to pursue rational proof of His existence. He wants our faith.
No, Jesus just wants your faith. Hashem wants you to rationally know.
Welcome to the brave world of Christianity.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIt was a story about how he had just built a log fence around his yard which took him two days to build, and then overnight the entire fence disappeared!
But then his friend told him that he had seen a large pile of logs in the backyard of the shul’s gabbai!
So what should he do? Should he confront him??
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/for-whom-the-troll-trolls
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI make the same deal with the local politician.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantyeah, we figured out you were trolling already yesterday.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI absolutely agree with oomis very strongly. The same way doctors train themselves not to react to strange things they see, mikva ladies ought to as well. And if they find they cannot, they should stop doing the job.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI don’t think it would work for the liver, particularly since it is broiled. You generally need a food processor if you want to grind your liver.
Alternatively, you can just mince or dice it with a knife, and that tastes excellent as well.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe only way to do this is to drink a lot of wines.
In any event, that is always a good idea.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYes, a YWN sheva brachos would be a very fine thing.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI would like to cook together with rd one day. This would be a fine thing to do.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMy husband loves Meal Mart chopped liver
Yah me too. Maybe I’m your husband.
It is best if you do the following to it:
Fry like 5 onions. Add them in.
Boil like 8 eggs. Add them in.
Add kosher salt, and grind in some pepper (I like to use the tri-color one).
Put the whole thing in a ziplock back and then break up the eggs by squeezing them through the bag, and then mix it all up like that also.
And that is what is mean that shabbos is ???? ???? ???
popa_bar_abbaParticipantpopa_bar_abbaParticipantYes, you should apologize.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantShabbos afternoon, he told me that if this is what Judaism teaches, he is very disappointed.
I agree with the kid. If that is what Judaism teaches, that you are supposed to wake up a kid at 2AM, who is just getting involved with Judaism, and who happened to fall asleep on his back–then I am very disappointed.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanthmm. lemme do more research on google and see
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAre you saying that at the same decibel level they will cause more damage, or are you saying that I will end up listening at a higher volume?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhy? More than regular headphones? I turn the volume low.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantyah yah, of course we fry them! And they do have a very fine flavor.
My father tried using fire roasted tomatoes in the pizza instead of just regular ones. He said it was terrific, and tasted like it had meat.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPopa made a mean popa’s pizza tonight. Used red onions. Lots of fennel. Used up the last of the parmesan that’s been in the freezer for months for this purpose.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThey will blast Israel for not allowing all of its citizens to have firearms and will criticize the US for adopting foreign (Israeli) ideas.
lol? Please provide one example where such an idea has ever happened anywhere in the world.
“Do you naturally assume that your political opponents are anti-semitic?”
Only the anti-Israel ones.
The NRA is anti-israel?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI wish the US would adopt Israel’s gun policies. The National Rifle Association would probably turn anti-Semitic, though, as Israel has draconian restrictions on who is permitted to have a firearm.
Not sure what that means. Everyone in Israel has a gun.
And what in the world do you mean that they would turn anti-semitic? Do you naturally assume that your political opponents are anti-semitic?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantR’ Meir Kahane, HY”D, ZT”L, was 100% correct on this matter- for every Jew, a .22.
As has been stated here before, he was absolutely wrong. Rather:
Alle yiddin, a drei hundred fiftzik und zibbin.
And Jothar says: A yid geshmak hubt a Glock.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPBA: You’re kind of unfairly quoting R’ Moshe’s T’shuvah though. If you read it carefully, he says that it’s Muttar (when not Begged Ish) just that it’s not worth it if your Kavanah is for Apikorsus, because then you’re changing it from a Ma’aseh Mitzvah into a Ma’aseh Apikorsus.
Yes, but let’s be more precise. He says if you are motivated by “feminism” then it is assur. And WOW is unquestionably and in their own words “feminist”.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI do have more information. His son (the son of the son) says very clever things. And his wife makes some mean shabbos cooking.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSam2: To the best of my knowledge, there is no machloket whether women are ALLOWED to do mitzvos asei shehazman gerama. Rambam is clear in Hilchos Tzitzis that they can perform these mitzvos and we shouldn’t discourage them. The Mechaber in Orach Chaim by hilchos tzitzis says the same thing, but adds that women shouldn’t make berachos. The Rema over there says they do.
I linked Rav Moshe’s teshuva above, that it is assur.
Seriously, do you only read your own posts?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhy would it be different than abusing an adult, as Haleivi asks?
Also, do you mean molesting? You aren’t sure that is assur?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAny real man would own at least a handgun and a rifle and shotgun. If you don’t, you’re probably really a woman. Just saying.
June 14, 2013 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm in reply to: The Government Is Monitoring Your Phonecalls and Internet Searches #958873popa_bar_abbaParticipantNot true. Rand Paul has introduced a bill in the Senate to end the program. HaShem help us if he somehow becomes President.
Charlie: Do you think his statements against the program are substantially different than those of Obama when he was running for president?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI don’t know much, but I hear that the son of the guy who runs it is brilliant, worldly, highly educated, and incredibly good looking.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantExcellent ender
popa_bar_abbaParticipantthey don’t mention us by name
June 13, 2013 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm in reply to: What do they do once they buy your miles/points? #959549popa_bar_abbaParticipantJune 13, 2013 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm in reply to: What do they do once they buy your miles/points? #959542popa_bar_abbaParticipantThey use them to book flights for other people, for which they are paid more than they paid you.
You could do that also, if you had enough points to book flights for people, and advertised to people who wanted to buy flights so they would come buy from you.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMMM had a secret informer within the NSA whom he nicknamed Eliyahu Rainden, and knew about Rivky’s secret plans. He was not about to give up on his rightful shadchanus by allowing Rivky to marry someone his wife didn’t set Rivky up with.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMeanwhile, Rivky had other ideas.
Unbeknownst to her parents, but very beknownst to the NSA, Rivky had been working in her secret laboratory for many years on a vaccine for the shidduch crisis, and she thought she had finally found it. Once she obtained FDA approval, the shidduch crisis would be over. And once the shidduch crisis was over, she would be free to marry whomever her father chose.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou were. And your points are good.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantA couple of relevant points.
Being openly gay is not the same as engaging in the relevant issurim, and there are levels of issurim which are less than actual arayos.
I don’t know if people are gay because of genetics; because of genetic predispositions and environmental triggers; only because of environmental triggers; only or partially because of other issurim they did; or only or partially because of other hashkafos they have. But I don’t think it really matters. Because I do know that regardless of the above, they aren’t making a conscious or easily reversible choice. The same way nobody makes a conscious choice to be depressed even though it may be due to any of the above factors or more.
Thus, there is such a thing as being gay, which is something I don’t think should be looked down on–in itself. If they are doing issurim, that is wrong. And if they are advancing hashkafos that challenge the Torah, that is also wrong.
So perhaps this minyan is wrong (I don’t have enough info), but some of this thread is also wrong.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI don’t believe the LSAT is learnable. Take a look at law school forums, where you have thousands of kids killing themselves to do 5 points better on the LSAT and get into better schools, and they cannot. There are people who are trying for years to improve their score, and paying thousands of dollars for courses and lessons.
Sure, some of them improve, and the vast majority eventually plateau and simply cannot get their score to move.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBlast it, I was hoping this was going to be troll thread. No fair.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantoomis: It was you? I am making a machooh. You are worse than the moslems, lol.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFinally, I want to point out that the kindest characterization of WOW that I’ve seen on this thread is “misguided”. Some other choice epithets include “wackadoodles”, “crazies”, “garbage spewers”, “nutcases”, “avoda zara worshipers”, “stroking their own egos”, “arrogant”, “conceited”, “ignorant”, and “worse than Moslems”,
Good point. I am making a machooh about whomever called them only misguided.
It is not for us to judge Women of the Wall or anyone else. Only Hashem is the True Judge, and I for one trust Him to do His job.
Is that a standard you only apply for them? You don’t want to judge people? Good, stop judging me, and the other posters here, and while you’re at it stop judging people who throw garbage at them, and everyone else who does stuff you disagree with.
But I disagree with you. It is absolutely our job in this world to decide what is right and wrong.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe wimmin could try praying on the mountain. It will make the charaidim look like a picnic in comparison.
Good point.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantExcept the Sharansky compromise is mixed davening. Surely you won’t advocate mixed davening at the Kotel?
It’s in a different section. If I could stop mixed davening anywhere in the world, and certainly at the kosel, I would. But if it is in a different section and doesn’t infringe on us at all, I suppose I can deal with it if I need to.
The same way I deal with the avoda zara on top from the moslems, I can deal with their avoda zara. (Not exactly: Islam is much closer to Judaism than they are.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat compromise would you accept? You already stated that there is a problem with them davening in the woman’s section.
I’ll accept the sharansky compromise. I can deal with the Moslems up top, I’ll deal with the reshaim on the side.
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