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HaKatan: It’s not Kefirah. It’s a legitimate Shittah in the Rishonim (the Ramban he quoted). It might even be a majority Shittah as I don’t think anyone argues explicitly. I don’t know if we hold by it, but it’s certainly a Shittah. Unless the Ramban was a Kofer too?
HaLeiVi: Some just don’t want Geirim. Kashim Geirim L’Yisrael K’sapachas.
See Mishnah B’rurah 2:1. Also, a speedo should always be Assur. Niddah 14b.
letschmooze: I would prefer to think of it as a very simplistic way of talking about eating disorders that I unfortunately know far too much about.
You guys are missing my point. I didn’t say it’s bad because Goyim do it. I said it’s Assur to specifically look at an act that non-Jews do in their religious services and say, “Hey, that’s a good idea for us to do!” It’s an explicit Passuk in the Torah. Thinking of the same ideas is fine. Taking an idea spicifically from them is Assur.
mdd: So we can steal their religious practices? Whether or not it’s A”Z for their Dinim, it’s certainly K’firah for us and Eichah Ya’avdu should apply.
Derech HaMelech: I was once talking to someone about women’s learning. He said what’s the point of it? He said, “Do you think this girl learning will cause Talmud Torah to be Miskayeim B’yisrael? She’s better off making coffee for me while I learn.” And I said back to him, “Do you think you’re learning will cause the Torah to be Miskayeim B’yisrael? By that logic, only R’ Chaim (Kanievsky) should learn. No. You have a Kiyum in learning. So does she. They might not be the same Kiyum, but why are you trying to deny someone something you can’t live without?”
WIY: That’s sad to hear. My experiences with SEED have almost all been positive.
Batseven: I would never disagree with that. Look at what HaKatan wrote. That’s what I’m saying is bad.
DY: Telling no one is never the solution. If there’s Mamash no adult who can help, then you call the psychiatric ward of the local hospital yourself. But there’s never nothing that you can do. Moreover, you’re never not obligated to do anything and everything possible.
pbstein: Yes it is.
WIY: R’ Zalman Nechemiah Goldberg is one of the more respected Smichas out there. And that’s the point. As long as you know the answers, you can Pasken most everyday Shailos. Hence, you have earned Smicha . You also need a minimum requirement of years spent in Beis Midrash learning, I believe.
WIY: There is a very, very big difference between concepts brought out of Halachah and other Divrei Chazal and something that is made up. If you show me a Makor in Chazal, I’ll acquiesce. If you can’t, then whatever made-up idea this is is not part of the Mesorah. (I agree with your overall point about music and what is can lead to and those studies are very compelling. One should avoid music that causes them to be inclined in even the slightest wrong way. I completely agree. I’m just disagreeing with this (as far as I can tell) made-up notion of the composer putting his soul into the music and the listener absorbing it nonsense.)
Saysme: I don’t know why people play around with eating disorders or try and talk through them. Do people just not understand the severity?? This is a life-threatening illness. If she won’t get herself help, then anyone else who doesn’t is complicit in killing her. Plain and simple.
“Music is an expression of the soul. As non-Jews are different than Jews in this regard, no matter how moral and upstanding the non-Jew may be, a soul-to-soul musical monologue by a non-Jew is inappropriate. This means that any non-Jewish music is potentially problematic.”
Show me one Halachic source which says this. You can’t. No one talks about this. I’ve seen this idea repeated here so many times and, honestly, it sounds like made-up drivel. And making up Halachos and Torah is something that one loses their Chelek in Olam Haba for.
Yitay: I have heard B’sheim R’ Moshe, R’ Shlomo Zalman, R’ Elyashiv, the Tzitz Eliezer, and others that any electronic device designed to work Al Y’dei G’rama cannot be a G’rama. I thought that’s what you were referring to.
If you can’t tell her mother tell her father or Rabbi or someone with authority to do something about it. I don’t understand your hesitance. If this girl was holding a knife to her throat but didn’t want you to tell her parents about it would that stop you? And eating disorder is Sakanas Nefashos. You are helping her kill herself the longer you let it go.
Yitay: There was a general Haskamas Haposkim to that. Otherwise, we could remove all M’lachos D’Oraisa Bizman Hazeh by using Gramas or electronics. And your Davar She’eino Miskaven setup doesn’t work. One step is a P’sik Reisha. You don’t know which one, but one is.
If you do not tell her parents immediately you are Over on Lo Sa’amod Al Dam Rei’echa. This is Sakanas Nefashos and every minute you waste is on your head.
PBA: And of course they’ll have to teach Hilchos Sh’chitah.
Dafyomi: Any Beis Din until the times of Chazal could be Gozer G’zeiros L’doros. They just didn’t as often because society was quieter and more simplistic so there was less need for them. This is an exception as the rarity of Reshuyos Harabim D’Oraisa necessitated D’Rabannans so that the Din of a R’shus Harabbim would not be forgotten.
DY: It’s close enough, depending on your vowelization. The story I heard was that someone once brought it as a Limud Z’chus to R’ Shlomo Zalman for those who mispronounce the word “Elo-ah” in Hallel as “Eloha” that since “Aloha” has basically the same meaning as “Shalom” that it would be a legitimate translation for Shem Hashem. R’ Shlomo Zalman said that’s not right because “Aloha” doesn’t count as a Shem Hashem. Now, that means that it both doesn’t count as a translation and doesn’t count as the Shem being said directly.
Interesting. Regardless of how good the idea is, I feel like this is an actual violation Min Hatorah of “Eichah Ya’avdu Hagoyim Ha’eileh Es Eloheihem”.
… That is an awesome Shaila. You just made my night. I would think that it’s Muttar. I believe I once heard someone quote R’ Shlomo Zalman that it’s Muttar to say “hello” in Hawai’ian. Presumably this is the same.
I would think that there is an obvious Chiluk between if walking in front of the sensor flushes the toilet and if leaving being in front of the sensor flushes the toilet. Leaving the sensor Mistama is a Grama. Walking in front of the sensor, according to R’ Shlomo Zalman (and what seems the Pashtus) is a Ma’aseh and probably a P’sik Reisha D’nicha Leih (you really don’t want that stuff sitting in the toilet) and you would probably have to stay there all Shabbos (or try rolling out under the sensor if you know exactly where it is).
Batseven: There is nothing more inherently Assur about non-Jewish music than Jewish music. I will of course agree that any inappropriate song is Assur. But if there is nothing inappropriate about the song then there is no reason for any “non-Jewish” song to be more Assur than any “Jewish” one.
I believe the tune writersoul referenced was from 613 Torah Avenue. It worked for my entire class to learn the order of all of Chumash.
LT: I believe the Little Midrash Says book said all of them and gave a possible representation. I don’t know what his source was though.
Everyone agrees you can’t turn on a pilot light. I thought everyone agreed that if said pilot light was lit that you can use it. I’m not sure what the issue is here.
Batseven: While I very much agree with your point that someone shouldn’t do something that they know is wrong, I will disagree with the premise that Hashem said it’s wrong to listen to non-Jewish music.
WIY: Yes, but it’s still a song of his played at just about every Simcha. I’m sure I’d find more recent cases if I looked into it. (Oh, and Shwekey’s Eishis Chayil is very, very similar to a song from Disney’s Hercules.)
WIY: Yidden is the most famous of them. It’s Dzinghis (Genghis) Khan by Eurovision. I’m not holding in their recent songs so I can’t tell you for sure, but if I get bored I’ll try to look into it for you.
WIY: That’s superficial and silly advice, especially as MBD, Avraham Fried, and Shwekey also borrow from Goyish music all the time.
If this is actually something you feel is important, pick a small group of Jewish songs that you love and a small group of really, really clean non-Jewish songs for when the urge arises and stick with only those for a few weeks. After a while, you’ll find it easier to ignore the non-Jewish songs and easier to turn to the Jewish.
Rav Shlomo Zalman said that the Minhag is worth hurting your learning if you can do it.
lol. I was actually a little insulted for a second, but it was funny. It’s fine, though, because I hold there’s no Ona’as D’varim on an anonymous forum. (Unless you’re using real names or things like Facebook and Twitter, there shouldn’t be Ona’as D’varim on the internet. The internet is entirely habited by trolls. If you don’t have a thick digital skin, Ihu Hu D’afsid Anafshei.)
To those saying that pills aren’t K’derech Achilah, the Poskim discuss the issue of Achsh’vei and some hold it’s a problem (I don’t remember who said what, but I think R’ Moshe was Machmir on this).
DY: Meant in good humor is irrelevant. The worst of insults are often meant in good humor. Taken in good humor might change things, but how can you say that L’mafrea whether or not your action was Assur depends on if he cares or not? Maybe if you know each other well and know that this insult isn’t an insult it’s okay (there seems to be a wide number of Shittos about nicknames and whether it’s okay even if he’s Mochel and presumably it’s the same issue).
Also, I’m amused that McDonald’s and Hershy’s [sic] are equated.
DY: It’s kinda one of the examples given in the Gemara…
147: We hold that the Torah was given on 6 Sivan. See the Magen Avraham in Siman 494.
It’s a Ma’aleh nowadays to be Over on Ona’as D’varim D’Oraisa?
See the first few Blatt in Bava Basra.
147: We do not “simulate” the Shtei Halechem. That is probably an Issur of Mechze K’kodshim Bachutz. What you meant to say was in order to remember the Shtei Halechem.
Daniel: That is one of the cases I referenced above where we seem to be Doresh Ta’ama Dikra here, which is strange. And it’s not so Pashut that it’s Muttar to dress as a woman on Purim. Many Achronim say that we cannot rely on the Rama on this because why should Simchas Purim be Mattir an Issur D’Oraisa? And even those that rely on it try and take it down a peg by saying that it should only be one item of clothing.
Baruch Hashem. This T’shuvah in the Rivash mentions a problem that I’ve had for a long time. As an aside, look at the Magen Avraham in Siman 494 who asks the same Kashya. However, I saw that his Nusach was “Yom Matan Toraseinu”. I thought that maybe our Nusach erases the Kashya. It’s still the Z’man Matan Torah, even if it’s not always the precise day.
Yitay: What does the Gemara say? (Obviously; Rashi Al Hatorah is almost always based on Gemaros or Midrashim, but when I see it quoted they quote Rashi, not the Gemara.) And that doesn’t change the fact that in the vast majority of instances, we don’t care whether or not it leadsto/is for Arayos as Begged Ish/Ishah remain Assur anyway. The Sod Hadavar might be related to Arayos, but for Halachic purposes it really isn’t.
To quote a very smart (and quite Chareidi) woman that I respect very much: It’s entirely possible that something like this is beneficial and somewhat necessary for the community. But Avi Weiss isn’t the guy who should be setting it up.”
Ben: See the Rabbeinu Yonah there, I believe, who says that Ein Hachi Nami every body part mentioned L’shevach in Shir Hashirim is an Ervah.
Yytz: It’s an explicit Gemara in Megillah, Daf 5 or so. Gadol Talmud Torah Yoser MiHatzalas Nefashos. (I happen to think that P’shat in that Gemara is a little different than the basic Pashtus, but it’s clear that Pashut P’shat is exactly what it sounds like.)
Daniel Rosen: Pashtus is that Lo Silbash has nothing to do with Arayos. Lo Silbash is one of the incredibly rare instances where for some reason we are sometimes Doresh Ta’ama Dikra (based on Rashi Al HaTorah) as a Snif L’hakel.
And who gets to determine what constitutes “wanting to be like a man” and “not understanding the special role of a woman”. I would be willing to wager that most women who want to wear pants want to do so out of comfort, not because they want to be like men.
Daniel Rosen: Do you use an Eruv in New York? Or Shabbos clocks? If yes, kindly never quote R’ Moshe again because you obviously disrespect him. Or the Chazon Ish either, for that matter. Not holding by everything someone says is not always equal to picking and choosing. It depends on what issue. The only time you can’t disagree with a P’sak of someone is if they’re your Rav Muvhak/Posek. Otherwise, you should never quote anyone when you hold by a different Shittah that someone else has.
HaKatan: Could you care to be more specific in what you want me to read? Because the only things I’ve found saying what you seem to want to say are by Tanya Reinhart, who seems to be a Talmidah (both in reality and thought) of Noam Chomsky.