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cute. I actually became chassidish when my kids started bringing home homework sheets in yiddish. but then we switched schools so now I’m litvish again.
well . . .?
Hmm?
Thank you, tizki lmitzvos!
goq – no, that one was awesome, but this one had to have been in the 80’s some time.
midwesterner – I heard the small towns canceled school yesterday, unlike us rugged Chicagoans 🙂
My husband finally made it back from his 7 hour round trip (Nageela) in just 12 hours! I remember one blizzard pre-cell phone days when people were stuck on lake shore drive for three hours getting from down town to west rogers with no way to reach anyone. At least he had a cell phone.
Good luck northeasterners, I heard it’s gonna be a big one!
Jewishness – I don’t see it as having anything to do with appreciating good, it is about understanding that Hashem is in charge and everything we do is on record. We will all be accountable for all our actions when we return our neshamos and most of us will be in need of mercy before the Heavenly Courts.
Jewishness – I hear your point but I don’t know that it holds for *Jews* who commit certain crimes against Jews. Perhaps it does.
Either way, perhaps you should be davening for him to have Hashem’s mercy, instead of a prolonged life, as he is no longer receiving the medical interventions that would be prolonging his life.
gamanit – LOL
jewishness – if you ask based on his being a yid, I understand your question. if you are asking “where is the hakaras hatov for running the country” than you are either trying to stir up controversy, or you are disregarding the pain of a huge number of Israeli’s who lost everything they owned, and that question I don’t understand at all.
WIY – I think its just us
since he cooked and served, I am willing to wash the dishes 🙂
Israeli Chareidi – It WAS a really big van . . . but you are right. A complete about face.
we’ve gotten 9 inches so far, but I think the others are right. It’s been spread out over too many hours to be blizzard material.
midwesterner – I just turned off of a main street into the Target lot and found my van facing the street I had just turned off of. That was almost a 360 in a huge van!
My husband is returning convention stuff to camp, I think he’s on the fifth hour of his 3 hour drive.
a blizzard is what I woke up to this morning but my kids have school anyway AARRRGGG!
Refuah Shlaima to your son. Hashem should bless your family with the physical and emotional strength you need to get through this.
I have a rice kugel that’s cinnamony. I love it but you have way healthier taste than I do.
or maybe not . . .
yum, soup! I’m thinking of starting a new thread, “what did you ruin today?” forgot to spice my corn kugel – blech. left my noodle kugel in too long – top noodles too hard to chew. made toast!
WIY – The question was about rebellious teens and was answered in that vein. So is the following: If the kid thinks he is invincible and is therefore not wearing a coat, how is butting heads with him going to make that go away? The point is, a child that age can monitor his own temperature. A parent telling a kid that age to put a coat on is telling him that he is not intelligent/responsible/trustworthy enough to make such a simple decision. That is how they hear your suggestion and that is destructive. They want to believe you have faith in them and trust their choices. If you want to risk giving bad messages over, I wouldn’t waste it on something like a coat.
If you see them making lousy choices about more important things, you still have to find a way to let them know EXPLICITLY that you love them, you know that they are old enough to make their own choices, but you are worried about some of the stuff they are doing. Or you are worried about some of the choices they are making. If you give that information over with a sense of responsibility and tell them that you know life is a struggle but that ultimately it is their choices to make you are not putting a stamp of approval on their poor choices. you will have less of a chance of making them feel small and burning bridges.
love the game set
ubiquitin – I wasn’t really wanting to change the law or thinking about how things should be done legally. I am just remembering that it used to be that people stayed on life support unless the families said otherwise, either on their own or through coaxing. And now that the winds have changed and people are highly discouraged from life support measures, I still find it surprising that the hospital/insurance company/lawyers/whatever are so ruthless, harsh and cold. Even feigning empathy seems to be a thing of the past.
ubiquitin – thank you for you patient answers. I think that that was my point. That although comas can last for years, brain death really can’t and there is no reason (short of money) not to let the body run its course. This obviously should be the choice of the family (when Jews/Halacha are not involved) and not the health care provider. (It was not so long ago when this WAS the case) Even tho the health care providers will discourage life support, I don’t remember ever hearing them fight so ruthlessly. I wish this family strength.
I understand that there are other health issues and that there are payment issues, but there are places (or perhaps were) where people were allowed to stay on support until they died on their own. In those days gone by, i still don’t know that many who remained for years had been declared brain dead. In the cases of pregnant mothers kept alive, do you specifically remember them not being comatose? The case presently going on in Texas, IIRC, is not dealing with brain death.
ubiquitin – thanks for the response. it is true, tho that that cannot go on indefinitely, correct? As I said, people do go into cardiac arrest while on ventilators all the time. In a way, the oxygen is still feeding an already pumping heart. I know comas can last for years (and years) but I don’t know (in real life, not tabloid) of any case of a person declared brain dead who lived more than a week and a half. How long is it possible to go on that way (medically, not in regard to this girl)? I don’t think it is correct that it can be indefinitely.
sam2 – but the respirator is not beating the heart. It is merely pumping air into the lungs. I have seen people on respirators die when their hearts stop so it is obviously not pumping the heart, I would understand that to mean it is allowing a pumping heart to continue pumping.
Sam2 – such a beautiful post!
RYWannabe – I grew up modern but shomer shabbos and mitzvos. I went to a religious co-ed day school where almost every student was like me, but there were none who did not keep Shabbos or kosher. For high school I insisted on the co-ed school where I was with kids from conservative and public schools for the first time. I refused to go to the all girls school because I was sure they would all look down on me.
Being in that school with less and non observant kids was very unhealthy for many of my classmates, but I found myself becoming more committed and it really sparked a search for me because I couldn’t understand why some people were giving up everything for religion, and my classmates/friends were giving up religion for everything. I ended up growing much more than I would have in the other school where everything would have been ‘a given’.
Of course I told my parents that they shouldn’t risk sending any of the rest of the siblings to that school but for me it worked, and for you it could be just what you need. They say the grass is always greener, better to be here, wishing for a yeshiva, than to be in yeshiva wishing you weren’t.
I am on winter break but my kids aren’t so I kept them all home from school today so we can clean up, eat lunch and play a game together.
I had a list of things to do while on break and I did most of them. I don’t think I expected that from myself.
I was also asked to be a part of a really awesome project to help educate educators and I feel so honored to have been asked.
hasn’t hit me yet but I’ve got my helmet on
my husband is more like a chocolate chip cookie
147 – I don’t know if you did that on purpose or not but you just equated coma, vegetative state and brain dead which are three very different states. A person in a coma is NOT brain dead, and a person in a coma is not being maintained in a vegetative state.
That’s (loosely) like saying he can’t speak because he is mute so he is being medicated for his laryngitis until he gets his strength back.
golfer – agreed!!!!
the typical bochur from BMG’s profile is not the same
do you mean they have higher foreheads or pointier chins?
anonymously? do you mean I should be posting more?
I’m having nightmares just thinking about it
PBA – it isn’t only that, the insurance companies don’t want to cover dead people so it isn’t just the costs involved, it’s being stuck with them.
Not sure, exactly, how to read your comment. I didn’t mean to forget about the value system, I meant that their lack of value of a brain dead patient doesn’t surprise me and is universal in the healthcare field. Being insensitive at the risk of losing customers is not universal.
Also, nobody put her in a coma, she is brain dead. and becoming brain dead is not always something actively done, sometimes it happens even under excellent care. Having apnea puts a person’s heart at risk. She was also overweight. Maybe her heart was 100% healthy, but maybe it wasn’t The point is that we haven’t a clue about the medical situation, but we do know that the way they are presenting themselves is not in anyone’s best interest.
I don’t assume the doctors made a mistake. Supposedly there is more information regarding what went wrong that the parents are blocking (thru not signing a HIPA waiver) which is really annoying the hospital who is left unable to defend themselves. I wouldn’t assume the hospital didn’t err, but I will say with certainty that it is not so simple to understand from the outside.
And regarding responsiveness, if there is no blood flowing to the brain, that is more telling than the movement of limbs.
I do wonder, however, if anyone knows legitimate stories of people who were declared brain dead (not coma) and recovered.
After spending way too much time in hospitals watching my parents die, with the staff asking us not to “waste” -o blood on my dad, and putting a DNR in place without permission etc, I don’t find any of this surprising. The part I am having trouble with is their comments. They know the public doesn’t understand and that PR is everything, and yet they make insensitive statements such as, “transporting a dead body . . .” and others. Their messed up value system is universal, but that level of insensitivity from the PR people makes me think they are a place to stay away from.
thewife – that’s really funny, I love that! I only like jokes where nobody gets humiliated, embarrassed, hurt etc. and there seem to be so few . . .
Torah613 – what’s worse is them arranging a date for you
Oh Goq, I think everyone is just too simple minded for your complex humor.
Rabbi Deutsch wrote and excellent book called let my nation go (live?) where he writes the story of yetzias mitzrayim in the form of a novel but based on medrashim. It is such an excellent book and makes it so alive and real. I hope to get a chance to read his chapter on the makka of arov again and tell you if he has anything that answers your question.
I’ll get over it 🙂
I can see from the “where is…” thread that i was sorely missed. thanks everyone
maybe you missed it:
where is Gefen et al?
the place where the door is always open
squeak – how insensitive of you! Some people find math downright exciting!
kollel wife – me too! I can translate the questions and the some chumash but they still giggle if I try to put a sentence together.
I did take Yiddish in college. I learned how to say “My name is . .” and “I live . .” but that is about all I remember.
Why thank you !
Are you starting to feel a little funny yet?