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Someone sent me a video that was also on the front news page featuring a doctor in florida stating that hcq WITH zinc has been found effective but the news is avoiding it. I do not remember the doctors name but he did not appear to be jewish.
I heard that claim about blank test swabs being submitted and figured it to be true. Then i heard the “real story” (quotes because i have no way to verify it) is that 2 people were waiting to be tested and it was taking forever so they left. And then they got calls that their tests were positive. If that’s the case, i dont believe it for a second. Nobody labels test swabs and puts them in a pile til the persons turn comes in the queue. The story is probably fake.
That being said, I’ve heard that their are reliability issues but i don’t think i would have the chutzpah to be out in public with a positive. I was sick for weeks and better, completely better for 5 or 6 days before it all started up again. I don’t think it was a relapse, i think that’s the profile of this virus. Thank Gd i didnt go out during those days
If i googled correctly, illinois average is 7k plus per student with chicago public schools at 4 something thousand.
Huju- I’m in!
A brand new 800 kid school was built at my front door within a community that had no need (lots of political issues attached). A handful of us wanted to have our community registet all 2000 of our kids (someone told me that was the number) as our community bordets are not big and most fall in that schools boundaries (hence the lack of need for the school there). 23 million was spent on that school. They would have had to fill it with us. Unfortunately nobody knew enough to do something about it.
Having spent many years in the public school system, i believe (but never varified) that there are a huge number of costs that are not absorbed by the student or school directly in the way they are in the private school. Many things coming thru the district are not the responsibility of the individual school and there are teams and deoartments that handle things that our schools havebto take on on their own.
Midwesterner- if you experienced it firsthand i won’t argue it. Although i would more likely believe that it happened in the reverse, tuition remains high because people can’t pay, as opposed to being a lichatchila.
The second part, besides making my pulse quicken, is also sad. This distortion seems to be so present in a certain demographic, as expected, but im finding too many of them who 10 years later can’t seem to let go. It breaks my heart really.
Common- you do realize how irrelevant that is don’t you?
Interjection – i don’t think that answer is correct but it certainly is somewhat insulting.
Huju- I’m seriously trying to understand you. You really think it’s no big deal to stick our kids in public school. You don’t see any problems with exposure to non tznius peers and teachers, nivel peh, innappropriate books, kol isha, gym class with mandatory shorts/t shirts, building peer relationships as 2nd, 3rd fourthh graders with non jews and their philosophies? Do you think it’s just an issue for narrow minded, extremists? Considering my oposing equal to wanting to raise my kids in a cave? Please explain what I’m missing cuz even my most modern and less affiliated friends and relatives would not consider putting their kids in public schools.
I don’t know who you are, or who you think you are, but nothing gives you the right to berate a doctor sowith such vile accusations because he doesnt hold of a bunch of things you read up on.
I have to say that both charlie and ubiq hate trump so much that i don’t know if i believe rhey can have ahonest view of hqc, but i also know thst there has never been any reason to question their integrity as doctors or their intelligence regarding their area of expertice.
It’s tisha baav, in case you missed it, give it a rest.
“even went looking for a communal pot that would be distributed among the local schools. There was none. ”
We do in Chicago
If you totally fargin them you wouldn’t need to leep mentioning it.
CS – Point 1. It still doesn’t fit in if you understand the meaning of it.
Point 2. You are just proving my suspicions, it is personal and it is frustrating as heck. There are jerks and bad apples everywhere. Nobody argues that point. But for you to act like this is standard procedure for these institutions is fake news. I don’t blame you for being so incensed about that, I am the same way. But to obsess over all the institutions, casting suspicion on them all on a public forum excessively is not the answer.
I have been badly burned by individual in high religious position. It traumatized me to no end. And damaged
plenty. My response was similar to yours. While it has been about 8 years and I still cannot resolve the issue in my head or heart, I no longer need to carry those trust issues over to everyone in high positions and assume they are all covertly doing the same. We who would never behave that way cannot bear to see such behavior in those we hold in higher esteem. It is a tragic reality out there.
When you want to donate – check the place out. When paying tuition, ask good questions. When faced with a campaign for a school, do your research. But there is no need to act like every school is like the one you mention. And don’t forget that their behaviors are being duly recorded by Hashem.
how soon we forget? It isn’t march anymore, thank Gd. Pretending it is is not the same thing as remembering. I don’t know about where you live but here in Chicago the high risk people are smart enough to be taking precautions. They are not in public crowds without masks, they are not in gatherings without masks, some not even with masks.
I personally did not and would not walk around anywhere with a positive covid status. But saying someone is killing people right and left is just nonsense. And my response was to that word choice.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣good luck with that!
You mean like we did after yankele rosenbaum, the monsey stabbing, and the jersey city murders?
Im not sure how that fits here.
Killing people right and left? Really now.
Woah mr Saychel, you seem a bit overly obssessed with opening everyone’s books. I mean feel free to be curious but you seem to be over the top with it. Past trauma? Deep seated competition between you and an old friend? Maybe you should consider working this thru with someone. Scrutinizing everyone’s books personally when it is relevant is one thing. Needing to enforce scrutiny in all frum organizations books thru a public forum…sounds like a middos issue.
“the level of gashmius in America”
America? Please don’t throw the rest of us into your septic tank. I hate when people think the whole world lives like you guys do.July 27, 2020 10:40 am at 10:40 am in reply to: What type of yeshiva is Reb Shlomo feivel schustals yeshiva in Lakewood? #1886983
CS – I don’t get it. You don’t like the way some random anonymous poster describes the yeshiva so you transfer that to the boys? What Shaichus?
No, it was taken out of context. Pathetically so.
But talking fact to anti trumpers is even more frustrating because they can’t even hear you and their arguments make them sound like their iq’s dropped 30 points. There’s no rationality. Obama bombed, not banned. You have a country deliberately planting cells for terrorism in the US and you are complaining they trump wanted them vetted first. Are you also one of those people who insists thst breathing air filled with covid19 germs is your right and government shouldn’t prevent that either? Wake me when you guys grow up
Som1- i believe some could have that attitude,
but i have trouble believing it was expressed over that. And i don’t think we knew at that time that it was muslims. Don’t mean it didn’t happen, but even jerks would let someone cry…
“total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”.
Jackk – so cute! You call it truth cuz he actually said it but it’s still a lie when out of context.
Here’s another “racist” story like that one:
4 black people and one arab are on the street and the arab pulls a gun on someone. The cops arrest the arab and people like you retell the story like this, “cops single out muslim bystander in racist arrest!”July 23, 2020 11:34 am at 11:34 am in reply to: Why does the government give benefits to kollel yungerleit? #1885940
SB – i hear, and although I don’t have facebook, I see plenty of it here, so I agree with the theory. I also seem to remember you leaning toward controversy in other posts… as I said, I was wrong about your intention.
Anon Jew- is this regulating only for weeding out kollel people or are you advocating a wellness check on the rest of the recipients as well. I would guess being in kollel when you shouldn’t be is an internal monitoring issue, and funding has no shaichus. If you leave kollel you still need the help.
Also – what’s with so many people talking about this free money for kollelites as if they aren’t putting in 54 hours a week for inferior healthcare and just enough funds to not starve but not enough to actually live off of? Why is it bugging you so much? Because you think they are using up *your* money? I hope you have the same attitude toward *every single public school student* who fails to get a college degree.July 23, 2020 12:52 am at 12:52 am in reply to: Why does the government give benefits to kollel yungerleit? #1885812
“would it make you happier if from now own I use more yeshivish language?”
Still wondering what this responds to. I didn’t say you don’t talk like a kollel person, i said your choice of wording lacks a display of support for it. You are saying “poor by choice” is complimentary? Okay, although I don’t think thats inherently obvious. Committed to a low paying job? Committing to being a perpetual student? Those sound more respectful in a world/forum where people see ‘poor by choice’ as the begining of the sentence, and ‘so they can collect welfare’ as the end.
I stand corrected.July 23, 2020 12:51 am at 12:51 am in reply to: Why does the government give benefits to kollel yungerleit? #1885811
“And Syag believes that I’m moronic,”
I said the question is moronic
I said your word choice was disgusting
” and definitely a nonkollel person”
I do believe it would take a non kollel supporter to label kollel as you did. I am always willing to be mistaken.
“for the sin of writing that kollel yungerleit are mosser nefesh to go through unbearable financial lachatz so they can learn as long as is physically possible”
That is *exactly* what you *didn’t * write. Or imply. Perhaps you should have.
(“deliberately poor as a lifestyle”). What made you think I don’t value that??? ”
Your word choices.July 22, 2020 10:31 am at 10:31 am in reply to: Why does the government give benefits to kollel yungerleit? #1885421
“Is this controversial?”
You wouldn’t have bothered writing it if it wasn’t. But it’s also moronic and based on false premises that only a non kollel yid could invent.
The welfare system isn’t there to only fund people who happen to be out of work but wish they weren’t. It’s about income levels per capita. Period. Your statement about “choosing to be poor” is disgusting. Im sure you would never grant such a title to someone who decides to live on one income so that their kids don’t have to be raised by babysitteres. Or how about someone who leaves their job to put together a startup that may never take off or is in a field that doesn’t make tons? Do you call them deliberately poor as well? Or is it the lack of value of long time learning that runs your campaign?
If i was a government employee and i saw a group of people who put in 10 hour days, showed up 6 days a week, gave up alot of life’s physical perks, and were married to women who were proud of them, all because it brings you closer to Gd and gives you endless reward, i wouldn’t just be glad to help, but i would chastise the community for not paying them more.
You seem to have very little understanding of what “life on welfare” looks like. Or what the majority of it’s recipients are doing with their waking hours.
He didn’t post asking if an aveira he did was wrong. He saw something that seemed to be questionable being done by frum yidden so he asked about it. If you have an answer of halachik or hashkofic relevance, post it. Telling him people can do whatever they want is not a torah based response unless yoy are saying its halachically permissible.
Jewish Music – his mistake of looking at his mother’s stuff does not make the issue irrelevant. If i peek thru your window on shabbos and see you watching tv does my peeking make your behavior irrelevant? Am i then not allowed to wonder how you can watch tv on shabbos?
“that frum bochurs in rumpled black suits and rumpled white shirts and unkempt shoes think they look more pious, ”
I would bet big money thst that judgement takes place in your head only. It’s the standard racial profiling assumption of the MO/religious zionists on the yeshivish.
“I think less,
There are less distractions Oot”
Less rejection, less insistance on being a round
I know what you are trying to say, but its not a computer program. Real life has too many variables. The oxygen exchange in the lungs was actually affected by mini clots so the blood thinners will also change those results. And monitoring o2 levels in people who *can* breathe wasn’t considered at the beginning of that pandemic but it’s known now so less people will end up becoming critical due to that. The plasma helps but it depends how potent the batch was and how many other issues the person has. You may be right that it shouldn’t change its profile by hitting the young instead of the old, but if a state has a high percentage of sick children due to a local hospital/rehab, you may see numbers that seem to indicate just that.
Nom- I don’t know why i find your posts so hard to follow. Nobody is stupid enough to send positive patients back to nursing homes. They are hardly releasing positive patients at all which is one of the reasons for all of the multiple tests.
The coronavirus is not a computer program. It is not being played out with the same numbers again and again because we have different treatments and protocols now. There is no similarity between the handling and treatment of patients now 2 then. Different number of hospitalization per positive cases does not compare and neither does the number of deaths per hospitalizations.
How can you say the same issue is playing out? They don’t have the lack of knowledge or preparedness nor the lack of equipment. They aren’t sending positive patients back to the homes and because they are counting each test as a new case even tho they are multiple tests of the same person they don’t even have as many people sick as they claim. No comparison at all.
Maivin – religion isn’t a live and let live kinda thing. If you see someone doing something you believe/feel/were taught to be wrong than you absolutely should be asking about it. Maybe the answer is that it is wrong but people can’t help themselves. Or maybe the answer is that if is not wrong but many people are machmir not to. Asking isn’t judging. And he didn’t ask you if you enjoy it, he asked why it’s appropriate. Which you didn’t answer by the way. Wanting to do something doesn’t make it appropriate.
Mesivta aliya – of coarse they do. How can you not see a picture on your phone?
do you mean sending covid positive patients to nursing homes to KILL THOUSANDS of elderly?!? Or maybe you mean not using the surplus of nurses that waited in NY hotels resulting in STARVING ELDERLY YIDDEN?!? Oh! Wait! Maybe you just mean not stopping people from destroying business and killing each other while sending yidden out of playgrounds.
Mishnayos – totally agree. To the point where i am sometimes a bit surprised at what pictures people choose to post. If i could find a legit way to get rid of my whatsapp i would do it.
I don’t know anything about that case so i can’t comment but i was wondering why he left the gun at the scene and then went to get a different gun tho shoot himself. (Obviously i know I’m missing most of the details)
Better sarcasm than the stuff coming out of bidens (et al) mouth
Ctrebbe – i don’t know what is more depressing, that yo actually believe your demeaning redirion of their lives, or that others reading it may believe it.
My boys re not an exception. They are not self supporting either. They have limited money and most is earned learning with younger/weaker weaker bochurim. MOST of their friends come from families like ours with no free rides. They can’t affrd to eat out which is why they buy ingredients and make meals. You either lived a pampered life, or believe the fake news that learning boys are all those things you authored above.
It’s Time – not sure why you brought that into this thread but…
I would say its just the opposite. Are we going to be forever inhibited by those who continue with the restrictions that are no longer deemed necessary for certain areas?
Don’t misunderstand, if a person is at risk, he should be careful. But, for example, my brother lives in a place where indoor functions are allowed in large groups but he still won’t let anyone in his house. I told him there is nothing at all wrong with being worried or careful, but don’t mistake yourself for being the “norm” or “in the right” thus branding others thoughtless or reckless.
CT – your post is more of a stereotyping fantasy than real life. Surprised to hear that from a rebbe. You are gravely underestimating their abilities and what life requires of them. Maybe your wife cooks 3 meals a day for your 22 year old but my guys have had to shop, cook, budget and provide for themsrlves while in bais medrash.
Not at all! I just don’t know if you can assume your representation is what Hashem wants from each of us. We all must do what He wants, and building a relationship where He is primary is the only way to go. I am just not sure you can spell out how that looks for each person in your coffeeroom post.
navy – I hear your enthusiasm but I believe you are letting yourself get carried away in it. Yes, I cry when someone dies over my personal loss in their passing, but it is not a personal loss. The death of every yid is a loss to every yid. And you do not need to expound on the importance of Torah by diminishing the other tragedies or the other Torah filled lifestyles.
Yes, I agree that many think learning all day is just something people do, they are clueless on the importance of having Hashem and his Torah in front of us at all times. They think being a frum person is “good enough”. That if you can’t learn in a bais medrash you can just “go learn somewhere else”. Yes, many people don’t get the value. But don’t amke yourself as ignorant by missing the importance of other things. It just reinforces that fallacy that they have embraced.
Oh Reb Eliezer – this is amazing! Mary Trump, whom you never heard of before, who is being paid millions to write a book that will get her on every left wing talk show is your new, credible source for information. This is amazing
Navyatsh- calling a death a personal tragedy makes the rest of your words hard to read. Personal tragedy? The death of a yid is a tragedy that is so global and huge that any randon jew is obligated to break shabbos to prevent it.
There are several horrible tragic scenarios that have resulted from this pandemic. Luna is right that we can’t belittle the physical crisis, and neither can we belittle the others. It is sad if people don’t understand how tragic the closing of yeshivas and schools are, very sad. But no suffering needs to be minimized in stressing that point.
I’m not sure everyone understood his post, I doubt i would have if I didnt have so many boys that age. My heart goes out to you. Hashem obviously wants you to seek out sources of strength, perhaps from past rebbeim as midwesterner pointed out. Perhaps others. Hashem should send us all a yeshua kheref eiyin!!
“Trump supporters are not racist, or trying to round up anyone. they are completely oblivious to what it means to work as hard as can just to achieve a decent life.”
Where do you come up with this stuff?