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Why not just ask your LOR?
The Wolf
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Why not sell the megillah case? Or Donate it to a shul?
Good question. I don’t know. But that wasn’t the point of the post.
The Wolf
Rav Chaim is not a lone wolf on this issue.
I thin you may owe R. Chaim an apology for using his name and mine in the same sentence.
If someone is seeking out every kula, I’m sure he can find them. Like you said, “but we clearly don’t do that.”
Agreed. But that doesn’t prove the point that it’s normative halacha. In fact, since there *are* clearly those who permit (even if you don’t hold so for yourself) then it’s clearly not a unanimous opinion.
The Wolf
A more important question to ask is (and I know I’m going to the lowest circle of gehenim for even suggesting this) — is R. Kanievsky’s teshuva normative halacha? Becuase if you really wanted to, you could always search out the most machmir position on every issue — but we clearly don’t do that. As such, even if R. Kanievsky says it’s assur, that doesn’t make it the final be-all-and-end-all p’sak.
The Wolf
I must really be dumb as a stump. I’ve never heard the term before as referring to people. If you had asked me what a “tuna beigel” was, I would have told you it was a misspelling.
The Wolf
Wolf, if you help out at home, then you are SURELY not showing her enough kavod. It is undermining her obligations to cleaning.
You laugh, but I know that there are some who actually take that view. Very sad.
The Wolf
FWIW, I personally can’t stand ostentatiousness (is that even a word?).
Many years ago, I was lucky enough to win a Megillas Esther at a Chinese Auction. Along with the megillah, I won a silver case. However, the case was big, showy, with bells that jingled whenever you moved it and with ornate work on it. For me, it was just too much. It was beautiful, mind you — but just way too much for me. For years, I carried my megillah around in a zip-lock bag rather than use that thing. Eventually, my mother-in-law was kind enough to buy me a nice, simple, wooden megillah case as a birthday present, which I still use to this day. The ostentatious thing sits on top of my breakfront, empty and unused.
Perhaps that’s the same reason that I don’t have a fancy, silver menorah (I still use the same one my mother bought for me when I was about fourteen) and I don’t use a fancy silver matzo holder, esrog box, etc. Yes, some of you will say I don’t show any chashivus to mitzvos — and you’re entitled to your opinions — but I’m not changing the way I am at this point in my life.
If someone else wants to be ostentatious, I don’t begrudge them — I firmly believe that as long as it’s within halacha a person is entitled to spend their money as they see fit — bit it’s just not for me.
The Wolf
Yes, I know. My reply was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek.
The Wolf
i have heard it much more often used in the spiritual sense in general conversation and shmoozim.
in learning it is usually used to refer to the physical aspect.
clearly you spend too much time learning :-)………(c’v)
Okay. Point conceded.
The Wolf
Your Rebbe was telling you (and it isn’t clear you understood him) that you should wear a bakovidik hat and jacket both on dates and of course in shul.
Funny, I didn’t wear a hat and jacket when I was dating my wife… and I still don’t when we go on dates today. I guess I’m not showing her enough kavod. 🙁
The Wolf
In a physical sense. But in a spiritual sense, all too many.
Perhaps… and I know that I shouldn’t disagree with you because I’m clearly not very smart, but when people use the term “pikuach nefesh,” they’re usually referring to the physical.
The Wolf
It is pekuach nefesh mamish.
It’s interesting to note a similarity between English and Hebrew/Yiddish idiomatic usage.
In English, people use “literally” when they mean the exact opposite (“I literally died of laughter”). And in Hebrew, they do exactly the same thing with the word “Mamash.”
Not discounting that there may be terrible dangers involved with owning an Ipod touch, I don’t know of too many people who have “mamash” died as a result of owning one.
The Wolf
i thank Hashem a million times that i’m from OOT and don’t have to deal with bungalows.
I know that this will forever brand me as an apikorus, but I’m from in-town and I don’t deal with bungalows either.
Frankly, while I don’t begrudge others their lifestyle choices, I could never see the fascination with being separated from my wife for four or five days of every week in the summer. I like to spend time with her and enjoy her company.
(Just waiting for a poster or two to quote Avos “Al Tarbeh…” and berate me for wanting to spend time with my wife…)
The Wolf
When he uses terms like “1000% closer” that pretty much indicates that I’m nowhere even close. When you’re out by the orbit of Neptune, it doesn’t really matter how hot the sun is.
The Wolf
Wolf:
I forgot where i saw it, I’d imagine it would probably be found in the sefer “minhag Yisroel Torah”, that its a segulah to relight the havdalah candle after you put it out to prevent a fire in the house.
Oh. In my limited brain capacity and ultimate stupidity, I did not realize it was a “segulah” type thing. I thought it was a “practical advice” issue and I could not, for the life of me, figure out how reigniting a candle reduced the chances of a fire.
How heretical of me not to realize that.
The Wolf
So Kollel is DEFINITELY 1,000% closer to a Torah-true home than non-Kollel. Kollel very much is pertaining to a Torah home.
Since you’ve now established that my home is not (and can never be) a “Torah-true” home since I work for a living, can we just get on with my excommunication already?
The Wolf
Someone has to have the most ostentatious house in the neighborhood.
Not if you regulate housing so that all houses are exactly alike.
The Wolf
I tell you, sometimes threads like this make me just want to not daven at all. 🙁
The Wolf
Wolf, is today bash a wolf day?
In some respects.
The Wolf
Fine. Whatever. You win. Clearly I cannot compete with you mentally. I don’t care to argue about it anymore.
The Wolf
“a brand name”
Heh.
Coke. Pepsi. Nestle. Home Depot. Nike. Yeshivish.
The Wolf (who is not a brand name)
It may well be the R”Y simply feel powerless to fight this fight, even though they believe it to be wrong. They may well fear that it may chase some away from the Yeshiva, and it isn’t worth that trade-off.
So, you’re saying that the R”Y would allow their bochrim to violate a mitzvah d’oraissah for fear that they won’t attend?! I know that I’m far too feeble-minded and far to corrupted by my modernity to cogently figure this out in a hashkafically pure way, but that just doesn’t sound right to me.
The Wolf
The alleged uncited brief quote of Rav Gifter zt”l seems unsubstantiated so far here. It may well be accurate, but that is what I am asking for.
I know that my unparalleled stupidity is going to shine through here, but the fact that bochrim of some well-regarded yeshivos are required to be clean-shaven proves that the Roshei Yeshivos of those places allow shaving.
The Wolf
So far we have citations from the Chazon Ish, the Chofetz Chaim (in Machne Yisroel), Rav Kanievsky (in Ishei Yisrael) and the Pele Yoetz that one should maintain their beard and shouldn’t shave. Is their any heter anywhere that can be cited that does allow a Yid to forgo his beard?
Perhaps this may sound heretical and stupid, but I think it’s obvious from above that R. Gifter’s opinion is that shaving is allowed.
The Wolf
I don’t see how you can compare one (a business use) to another (a flashy mansion). The Rabbonim have long forewarned us against a flashy lifestyle.
I may be too ignorant to understand this properly, but I believe it *could* be argued that he could have flown on a regular plane rather than having a private jet.
The Wolf
(Note: I’m not arguing that he shouldn’t have had a private jet. I don’t know what his circumstances were and, even if I did, I’m probably too stupid to know if it was justified or not. I’m merely making the point that it *could* be argued).
Why are we talking about such things?
Because someone asked.
The Wolf
Of course we should buy from a yid, they need parnasah
I don’t think anyone disputes that, all other things being equal, you should buy from a Jewish shop. What we’re discussing in when things are not equal.
What if the non-Jewish shop has what you want at a significantly cheaper price?
What if their merchandise is of better quality?
What if their service is better?
What if it will take you four hours to get to the Jewish-owned store but the non-Jewish-owned store is only ten minutes away?
Those are the types of issues we’re discussing. Personally, I know that I’m too ignorant to answer those questions, but I’m sure there are others here who can do so.
The Wolf
Wolf, Yes, that’s exactly my point. I was suggesting that small Jewish retailers ought to implement that successful strategy. What did you think I meant??
My apologies. Apparently I was too stupid to discern your intention. I beg your forgiveness.
The Wolf
I believe if a store institutes a liberal return policy, it will draw more customers thus increasing their profit. The reason large succesful retailers have liberal return policies is because they know that policy entices more shoppers.
Forgive me for my extreme ignorance and stupidity, but isn’t that supposed to be a good thing? Shouldn’t stores be doing what they can to increase the number of customers?
Or is my feeble little brain missing something here?
The Wolf
Why do you say that? Are you really that self critical of yourself?
Sometimes. Now would be one of those times.
The Wolf
If you look at the reasons why MOST lobyists lobby, you’ll see money is the bottom line. Whichever way you want to put it, that’s lobbying for money.
Okay. You win. Not worth arguing over.
The Wolf
I have been the undeserving recipient of far too many chasadim throughout my life from too many people to even begin figuring out which was the biggest?
Should it be my mother who put up with me when I was an impossible, incorrigible teen?
Should it be the people who took my sister and I in when my mother spent the majority of several years in-and-out of the hospital recovering from numerous physical ailments?
Should it be the fathers of my friends who, seeing that I was growing up without a frum, male role model, made sure to look out for me in when I was growing up?
Should it be the people who provided money to me when I was short on cash?
Should it be the family who continually puts up with me to this day?
Should it be the friends who, for some unfathomable reason, stand by me even when I am impossible?
Should it be the schools that basically allowed me to attend tuition free for years on end because my mother was disabled and unable to work?
In short, the task is too great and to begin figuring it out would be an insult to whoever’s chesed wasn’t chosen. I may be dumb and inconsiderate, but I’m not completely ungrateful.
The Wolf
I’d strongly encourage every single Yid who qualifies for any of these gov’t services to take full advantage of them to the full extent of the law makes it available to them. To not do so, it to be a fool.
Fair enough. I already knew I was a fool, but I guess now I am doubly so.
The Wolf
Wolf: One can have “personal integrity” and still ask for a handout.
It’s called lobbying 🙂
IIRC, lobbying isn’t about money (although it could be). Usually groups don’t lobby for money, but for favorable laws and/or policies (which may well lead to more money).
The Wolf
Sounds scary-in what way are you “wolfish”?
In every bad and negative way you can imagine…. and then some.
The Wolf
8b)If you are worried about your house burning relight the candle.
I know this will sound stupid, ignorant and probably heretical, but how does reigniting a candle lessen the chance of a house burning down?
The Wolf
WolfishMusings because I’m Wolfish and have ignorant and insane Musings.
The Wolf
Thank you Derech, for clearing that up.
The Wolf, whose unparalleled and vast ignorance has just been lessened by a little bit.
There is NO concept of “lefnim meshuras hadin” with governmental monetary issues. That idea is absolutely absurd and insane.
While I know that I am absolutely absurd and insane, I believe that one should always attempt to maintain the utmost in personal integrity in financial matters — whether it be with a Jew, a non-Jew or the government.
The Wolf
There are many who put paintings of the Kosel or Yerushalayim and the Mishne Berura says one should not protest
Please forgive my vast ignorance, but what is the problem with hanging up pictures of the Kosel or Yerushalayim in one’s home?
The Wolf
why is a non-harry
Please forgive the ignorance (yes, I know that I’m as ignorant as a stump) but what is a “non-harry?”
The Wolf
So i can assume that you agree that chassidish means something.
Maybe.
I would guess that being Chassidic means being a member of a Chassidic sect. But then again, I (in my vast ignorance) could be grossly incorrect.
If I am incorrect and “chasidic” has no true meaning, then so be it. Feel free to say I’m chassidic. I may not self-identify that way, but I can’t stop you or anyone else from saying it.
The Wolf
What is wrong with them?????
Sometimes, stores make items available for less than cost in order to get you in the door in the hopes that you’ll buy other stuff too. It’s called a “loss leader.” I can understand why they would not want you to purchase such items with store credit.
The Wolf
Isn’t “Volf” quite a Chasidish name?
I’m not Chassidish.
The Wolf
Look at it this way Wolf. Yeshivish is best defined as compared to the person standing next to you. To some, I may be a greased out, frummed out ben toirah, to others I may be a “moderneh mentch” and to yet a 3rd I might be cookie cutter lakewood. (I’m neither and all 3 rolled into one..it just depends on who’s doing the judging)
In other words, as an absolute measure, it’s meaningless.
And on the topic of yeshivish, how soon can we start calling you Volvie? Or Zevi? That would be a REAL yeshivish statement!
I can’t stop you from calling me anything you want. People have been calling me things such as idiot, stupid, ignoramus, heretic, etc.* for a long time. So feel free to use whatever term you want. However, I’d advise you not to make it too obscure or else I’ll never know that it’s me you’re addressing.
The Wolf
* No, I’m not suggesting that you (or any other poster) would call me any of those things.