WolfishMusings

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You can choose to ignore the flowers or just not pay attention to them. You can even move them off the table and put them on a shelf somewhere else. If you’re not close to them, you can avoid the smell (for most flowers).

You cannot ignore the taste of food as you’re eating it. You cannot avoid the satisfaction of having your hunger sated after having eaten.

The Wolf

My suspicion is that your calling yourself the most impure person on the face of the earth is merely being self-effacing.

You’re entitled to your opinion. I’m entitled to my opinion that I think you’re wrong on this.

The Wolf

Wolf who said it has to be bought purely for lkavod shabbos? Food for example as much as it is bought lkavod shabbos, you are still getting your own pleasure.

That’s a very good question. However, it could be argued that (a) food is required for Shabbos, flowers are not; (b) for all practical purposes, one cannot eat without having pleasure from it or, conversely, the purpose of eating food on Shabbos *is* to have pleasure from it — and since it will be done on Shabbos, that makes it for Shabbos. Flowers, when bought with other purposes in mind, does not meet that criteria.

The Wolf

So there you go Wolf- everyone has different things that make their Shabbos more beautiful. For me flowers are for Kvod Shabbos only.

And that’s fine if that works for you.

Now that you concede my flowers aren’t solely for Shabbos, do you retract your criticism of me for not buying them every week?

The Wolf

Thanks for the clarification.

The Wolf

you’re

Yep, that should be “You’re” with a capital. My apologies.

The Wolf

Aside from the fact that, of course, he was not the mashiach, how did it ever get into their heads that mashiach = G-d??? (or “son of G-d??)

I actually had this argument with someone on another (secular) message board once.

The crux of his argument (which may or may not be the normative thinking) was that God said He will send a messiah from the House of David and then decided to do one better and send Himself instead.

My counter-argument to that was that that would be fine if the speaker didn’t know the future.

For example, if my father sent me a letter saying “your brother’s coming and he’s going to do this for you…” and then he shows up himself, that’s fine — my father could change his mind. God, on the other hand, already knows whom He is going to send when He made the original proclamation, and He’s *not* going to change His mind. As a result, I argued, if HKBH Himself would show up one day and say “I’m Moshiach,” I would turn around and say “No, you’re not, because You didn’t say You were going to send Yourself. You said that You were going to send a descendant of Dovid.”

At that point, we had to simply agree to disagree. He could not accept that I would hold God to His word so literally. I could not accept that God would say one thing knowing He was going to do something else.

The Wolf

An armani suit is more Lkovod your own pride!

And, as I explained above, the flowers are not strictly for Shabbos. They also serve as love notices for Eeees and as subjects for photography.

(Shameless plug: This shot was one of our “Shabbos flowers”

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1AQThfnDO8sKYweZGAXffQ?feat=directlink )

The Wolf

Fair enough. Thanks for the info, Mod-80.

The Wolf

Not every erev Shabbos. I might if the budget allowed for it (besides the fact that Eeees likes them, I also get to take pictures of them). As it is, it’s usually every other or every third week.

The Wolf

It happened from one minute to the next!

I find that very hard to believe. I don’t think anyone just “snaps” one minute and decides they’re no longer frum. In all probability, this had been building for a long time. It may have appeared to you, as an outsider, that it happened in one minute, but I’d be willing to bet dollars-to-donuts that that’s not what actually happened.

I simply can’t understand how this happened! What do you think caused this to happen?

Not knowing the girl or her parents or her school environment or anything about her, I couldn’t even begin to guess.

The Wolf

Very few this year. I have three kids in high school.

The Wolf

I dont know if im the only one who feels this way, but its a little annoying not knowing who im talking to…married? not? boy? girl? frum? not? idk!

I am male, frum and married — and I know how to use apostrophes and capital letters.

The Wolf

Does any one have any ideas of where she can start to get items at wholesale prices. Any leads would be a big help.

You can start by putting “wholesale jewelery” into Google.

The Wolf

Books are usually easier to come by than poker chips…

I wasn’t stating that one can’t use a book. I was merely saying that poker chips *also* work well.

The Wolf

Ask your rav.

The Wolf

Canine,

Just to further make my point that your refusal to name a rav is baloney, you posted above (emphasis mine):

Now I understand there are some minority opinions that hold otherwise.

Since you seem to believe that the majority hold like you, it should not be difficult for you to come up with the name of a single rav who paskens that thirteen year old boys are required to get stone drunk.

The Wolf

Why are you even arguing?

Because I find I have the need to fight ignorance and stupidity.

No such Rov exists on this planet, who holds that 13 year old boys should become stone drunk.

Period.

I know that no such rav exists (at least in the US). I’m just calling his bluff.

Canine wants to demand that I respect his poskim just as I ask that he respects mine. That’s fine… but he has to show that there is such a posek to begin with. I’m not required to respect figments of imagination.

The Wolf

You question the sanity and responsibility of our rabbonim shlit”a.

Oh, and for the record, I’m not questioning the responsibility and sanity of your rabbonim. I’m questioning whether such rabbonim (that make such requirements for thirteen years old) even exist.

If you can show me that I’m wrong, I will be more than glad to retract.

The Wolf

Now I understand there are some minority opinions that hold otherwise. And I fully support their adherents from following their opinion. Nevertheless, we ask for the same respect.

Fair enough, but I’ve got to tell you, I find it *very hard* to believe that any sane and responsible rav would say that it’s absolutely required for a thirteen year old to get stone drunk on Purim (or any other day of the year).

The Wolf

The OBLIGATION to drink starts at age 13.

Ad dlo yoda means becoming stone drunk.

So, it’s your contention then, that every male over Bar Mitzvah is required to get stone drunk on Purim?

The Wolf

Ad dlo yoda means becoming stone drunk.

If that’s the case (and I don’t believe it is) then I am glad to have never fulfilled this din… and I never anticipate doing so.

Feel free to call me a sinner if you feel you must.

The Wolf

I grew up with two dogs. Some of my fondest memories of my childhood are of spending time with and playing with them.

I would have a dog now if it were not for the allergies of some members of my extended family. Since I value their occasional company, we restrict our pets to hamsters (although, of late, we have considered a guinea pig).

The Wolf

I hate skinny people

Let me get this straight… you hate people because of their physiology?

It would be one thing if you said “I hate the fact that some people can eat…” but that’s not what you said. You said that you actually hate the people… and these are people that have not done any harm to you. How would you like it if people hated you even though you never harmed them and it was for something that was beyond your control?

And what happened to the lav of “lo sisna es achicha?”

The Wolf

And if someone did, chas v’shalom, copy, which is theft, then it’s (retroactively – DY) a rental at the rate of $100 a day, on condition not to copy.

Thanks DY.

So, what they’re doing is saying that if you bought a CD a year ago and make a copy now that they can ask you for $36000+? I’d like to see that stand up in any court.

The Wolf