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“By our sanhedrin we have the same ruling.
Once they passed the psak of meesa ,bais din is not allowed to recind even if edim come with proof.”Eidim Zomemim.
“the “best” of the frum women who choose to work outside the home are not so distracted”
They are very distracted from their domestic responsibilities.
The Litvaks in Lita wore shtreimals and peyos and the Yekkes certainly had long curly peyos like you see on Chasidim now. (There are pictures around; even some of the early mild reformers in Germany still had long peyos and a big Yarmulka.) I think they wore shtreimals too but would have to double check that one.
A woman’s place is not in the public arena. This principle is enumerated throughout the Torah, Chazal and Halacha – including Shulchan Aruch and Rambam.
Frocks and even shtreimals are not an inherently Chasidic dress. All Ashkenazic Yidden, including Litvaks and Yekkes, used to wear frocks and shtreimals. When the Russian government, which also ruled Lithuania and Poland at the time, banned the wearing of ostensibly Jewish clothing such as frocks and shtreimals, many communities stopped wearing them. The Chasidim and some others like the talmidei haGra persisted in continuing to wear the traditional Jewish clothing despite the government gezeira against it.
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“There are almost no Jewish judges…….as a number I now who have been asked if they want an appointment say? Why take such a big pay cut?”
Are you trying to say those Jews have money as Priority 1 whereas the goyim do not?
NCB: DY claims she didn’t see that post.
“On another note, regarding arkaos, all the big chareidi machlokisim have been and are fought out in arkaos, not in bais din.”
You are arguing (even if true) that this makes arkaos muttar?!
The issur against arkaos is to be a (willing) litigant, lawyer or judge in a non-Din Torah court where the parties are Yidden.
I have to investigate the veracity of it. Still making some phone calls and awaiting call backs.
MO judges ditch the Yarmulka, CTL, and you’d never know they’re religious.
adocs: Give us the name of an actual Rov she allegedly has the support from to become a secular judge and your question can be answered instead of your relying on “reports”.
Told ya, the coffee room has only three real posters. Me, you and one other person. All other names are me.
All screen names in the coffee room are my alter-egos, except you and one other real poster.
You don’t know that Hitler had chicken feet? That’s why he was never seen with his boots off.
Oops, wrong login.
No. The vast majority of women who call themselves Chareidi are Torah observant and would never consider violating prohibitions against women being judges or against arkaos, serving or participating in a non-Jewish/non-Din Torah/non-Beis Din case.
ca: It’s called the Pintele Yid.
There’s a little bit of Joseph in every Yid.
Burka.
Why are you surfing in public?
This is done by people who nebech have nothing substantial in their lives.
WB YWM-42!
A spiritual life that is extinguished is a far greater tragedy than a physical life that is extinguished.
Reu, even if you aren’t inaccurate in that, that point is meaningless to this discussion and situation.
Where did they make fun of any other tzedaka?
Gaon, if someone doesn’t drive the strong likelihood is that they’ll be outside less often than if they’re a licensed driver with a car.
laskern: Only if the beneficiary is a yehudi.
Phil, while you’re focusing on the Rambam, I also cited, in the same sentence, the Shulchan Aruch on it. We do pasken from S”A even if not necessarily from the Rambam. The Shulchan Aruch doesn’t pasken two times; the Mechaber only psakens that women shouldn’t go outside too much, without specifying a number. This isn’t a “fake halacha”, Phil. This is an actual Psak in the Shulchan Aruch.
What is “too much” is probably different for each woman and each circumstance. But it certainly is Halacha l’maaisa that women should not be outside unnecessarily or too much. For example, girls or women certainly shouldn’t be congregating on street corners shmoozing. This is Halacha from Chazal, Shulchan Aruch and everything in between and since.
And this Psak from the Mechaber plays a direct part for the shittas that rule that women aren’t permitted to drive.
Regarding eyesores, if you c”v saw a Jew eating a cheeseburger in McDonald’s that too would be an eyesore. Ever seeing a Jew doing something inappropriate is an eyesore.
1200 lost neshomas/spiritual lives (40% of 3000) is a far bigger holocaust than four lost physical lives.
ubiq, did the 24 hour news cycle of the era report the Norman Conquest?
Avi, with all those government programs, for whoever gets them — certainly far from all Yeshivish families, Yeshivish families still pay a huge portion of their income, on average, for Yeshiva tuition.
Avi, Yeshivish families don’t get any government scholarships to reduce their Yeshiva tuition costs.
Why did you think YWN represents Yeshivish views any more than the Jewish Week does?
England’s been around a long time.
DovidBT: Would you like to help me in starting a GoFundMe campaign to keep CTLawyer’s family afloat while he does he indentured servitude?
“Going to Yeshiva is no guanrtee that wont happen.”
The guy referred to in your quote went to pubic school after stopping Yeshiva. That’s why it happened.
Wolf: I was pulling your leg.
“it is a well known ma’amer of Chazal I am quoting. It refers, I believe, to eating. Not jumping.”
You believe the Chazal means that if someone failed to eat General Tso’s Chicken or Chinese food in his life, he’ll be punished in Shamayim?
“Chazal say that one who fails to try something permissible will face din v’cheshbon.”
Will people who fail to go bungee jumping have to give din v’cheshbon for that failure?
יש דין ויש דיין
Neville: What makes you sure your weighing the two issues against each other or your sense of proportion is correct in this case?