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Most languages with few exceptions are decended from or dialects of other languages
I am no linguist and I cant tell you the difference between a dialect and new language. Many western languages that we speak are called indo-european languages
The basically fall into the Romance Language (Decended from Latin which are Spanish, French Portguese. Romanian Ladino and smaller languages)
And the Germanic Lanaguages which are German, English, Dutch, Swedish, Norse, Yiddish and similar
Romance languages are somewhat mutually intellegible to each other, but the Germanic ones generally are not. A Spanish and Italian Speaker can usually understand each other, however an English and German speaker generally cannot.
However Yiddish / German speakers CAN understand each other.
Words , Lexicon and grammar do not come out of a vaccum.
In some cases yes, but after that semester you never have to take them again
I had some professors who welcomed debate.
I dont think you could debate Rav Kooks opinions in certain quarters
I have a Golem in my house
(They sell them all over the tourist shops in Prague)
he does not speak
Here is the differnce between Chinuch and College
Lets say you are a Satmar and belive that maybe Rav Kook was correct in his thinking, You will likely be called chuptzadick , Apikoras or excommunicated for daring to question the Satmar Rebbe.
If you are in college and have more conservative views, you might not be looked at favoriably,but they will not excommunicate you . You will not be seen as chutzpadick or disrepectful toward the professors (assuming you disagree respectfully) etc
I heard a story of someone who from the age of 5 wanted to be a violin player. They spent all their free time practicing the violin. Everyone who knew this person said they were the best violin player they heard. At 16 this teen auditioned for the Juliard School. They did not make it and they were devestated and fell into the wrong crowd. Her mother found her and told her, Yes it was hard for her not to realize her dreams, but her mother told her there were lots of other things she could become.
He mother convinced her to go to college and become a accountant and she became a decent accountant, Ok she did not become a classical violinst but her mother realized she could become something else.
In the Charedi world its has become all about torah study. Unfortunatly not everyone has the intellect or the Stamina to learn 14-16 hours a day and of course not everyone can become the Gadol Hador. Classic Chassidism realized this and said you dont have to be a Talmid Chacham to be closer to Hashem.
Unfortunatly Today there is no “acceptable” alternate to torah study. Teens spend their time figuring out what they want to do with their lifes and figuring out things. Its part of growing up.
Wow you are doing the right things by sticking to your son. I know many in the Charedi world would throw him out.
I am against the ciggarettes, but it is keeping the lines of communication open. Hopefully you can explore things for him to do that are good. There is nothing wrong with being an accountant or being a brown noser in an office (like most people are)
Bais Yaakovs and Colleges have different goals
Well, I guess I’m not one of those really smart people. I think the idea of a “marketplace of ideas” is entirely of western origin and has no source in Judaism. We believe in the concept of absolute wrong and absolute right, and one should not expose oneself or one’s children to ideas that are contrary to Torah and Daas Torah.
Chassidus was a new idea, and many were opposed to it like the Vilna Gaon. There was much opposition to it and many were put in Chareim
The idea of educated girls was also a radical idea and Sarah Schneier hit alot of opposition to the idea of Bais Yaakov and they were not even accepted in Hungary (They said the Poles needed it)
Torah and mitzvos protect us. We say it twice a day. Sure, bad things have happened while we had (some) Torah learning, but perhaps if we had less learning, they would’ve been worse.
How could things have been worse than the holocaust other than every jew wiped out.
Mdd
It depends on the country in Europe. It is true they were “Less frummer” in Poland, but in Lithuanaia and Hungry they were “More frummer” and they were destroyed too.
And the least frum of all the US and England were totally spared.
Just because someone works in Chinuch doesnt mean they really are qualified to be there.
Someone could be a relative of the Menehal or a good fundraiser and have gotten the job.
The brainwashing accusations could just be unqualified and jaded teachers
There has been terrorist attacks almost every year in Israel since the first Yishuv in 1881
Health
Most people who attend college are not doing it for some altrustic reason, they are not trying to help the poor in Harlem or Africa.
They are doing it because they think it will help them make money, Lots of it.
The only “brainwashing” that occurs in college is by those who never went and say how “evil” it is.
WOW
Never say that..I am sure he might agree if the trip sounded intersting.
for example Ive seen these teen tours of Europe. Do you really thing he’s rather be with his chevra than visit Europe (This is jsut and example) , there are other choices alot cheaper and would probably do the trick
WOW
I dont know your financial situation, but can you send him on some sort of trip for teens, they take most of the summer and they go to exciting places.
It might not be the Hashgafa you are used to, but they are religious and he will be somewhat watched
Taxes are $3000-$4000 in NYC
I dont know how frum you are so I cant recommend neighborhoods.
There are nice houses in Fresh Meadows, Queens (and other parts of Eastern Queens)_ and on Willowbrook Staten Island with decent land for those cheap taxes. with plenty of restarants and shopping.
They are frum but not yeshivish, definatly leaning toward the modern side
MR
In NYC itself the property taxes are alot cheaper than the suburbs
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How I am contradicting myself?
I think its a private matter about Rav Yosef’s eyes, now if he wants everyone to know the reason (I dont know or not if he does) thats another issue
In that thread I just posted public information anyone can google, Just like it acutally is no secret why rav Yosef wears the sunglasses, but the OP didnt know that. What if the OP had asked about something that was not well known and some people did know the answer. He is a public figure so its a bit harder to hide information about him
Lets make it simple If you had met Rav Yosef and could ask him directly
Why do YOU wear Sunglasses?
If you think thats Kavod to do so then its ok to ask here , if you think its Chutzpadick to ask him directly than its Chutzpadick to ask about it here.
Its a medical issue, ALL Medical issues should be private
Would you consider it Ok to ask if a Gadol was in a wheelchair or R’L needed a Colostomy Bag?
I cerrtainly do not and I consider the sunglasses in the same league as the wheelchair or Colostomy Bag. medical issues are nobody business except the person and their immediate family.
So you agree there are limits on how much we should emulate Gadolim.
I am not discarding, One should certainly try to mimic the way a Gadol behaves to family , friends, Averchim, At the Shabbos table , During davening at a fundrasing dinner. Lots of circumstances
However if the Gadol walks 357 steps from his house to the Beis Medrash we dont need to follow that
See Brachot 62 Amod Bais
So should one stand outside the bathroom door and count exactly how much time the Gadol spends there since he is not learning torah while there. Should one listen to him in the bathroom to know exactly what a Gadol does in a place where torah is not allowed.
If the Gadol needs to go to the Hospital for a procedure and will miss some shirum, do you have a right to know exactly what the Gadol is going through. Do you have a right to know exactly how the Gadol behaves during an invasive medical procedure.
Finally should one behave like Rav Cahana and do exactly what he did. I know what Rav told him and I know what his answer was. Should one behave exactly like Rav Cahana. None of us are on the Madraiga of Rav Cahana.
Kavod is not mimmicing every action a Gadol does, no matter how minute. In fact it shows a lack of Kavod. Invading a Gadols privacy shows a lack of Kavod
I heard the story about the Soup myself and it is lack of Kavod to count exactly how many spoons a Rav ate his soup. It IS a lack of Kavod to Rav Yosef to ask why he needs the glasses.
Do you think its Kavod to hide under the Gadols Bed like Rav Cahana hid under Ravs bed and see how to behave.
Does it really matter?
You dont have to emulate EVERYTHING a Gadol does.
I heard a story how a gadol wouldnt eat chicken and then all his talmidim wouldnt eat chicken either because he wouldnt eat it, One day someone asked him what is the reason he doesnt eat chicken and his answer was I dont like the taste of it.
But to answer your question, It is not a Tzniut or any other halachic reason, He has an issue with his eyes and he cant really be exposed to sunlite.
Try the Spelt then, Its much easier to digest
Rav Shach Son had a PHd
His son and grandchildren were not excommunicated from his life
Try eating Spelt , Whole Wheat or Oat Matza
It might be a wheat issue
It seems there are plans to move the Charedi Populations to Vienna, because of the generous benefits there.
I dont know who are the gevrim who are supporting the Yeshivas, But I am sure at least some of them are either Dati Leumi or even Chilonim (Many non-relgious actually do support religious institutions). I doubt these supporters will be too happy if the charedim move to Vienna of all places (Its not so easier to emmigrate to US for Israeli non-Us citizens and benefits are likely to be cut here as well due to political climate)
Probably many charedim will be forced to sell their apartments in a fire sale in order to be able to afford to move to Vienna further improverting them (They will need the money to pay for plane tickets and real estate in Vienna) I doubt many geverim will pay the millions required for this mass exodus along with the money required to build the yeshiva directly.
Its one thing to complain , Its quite another to call them goyim , dogs and other names.
Its certainly fair to say that we disagree on the draft , Good torah jews do not go to the draft and we belive we should not be drafted
However its very different to say Those Anti-Semtic Goyish Dogs want to draft true torah jews
Maybe you dont hear what I am saying
The Sikirim curse and spit at 8 year olds, The Charedi leadership says these people are not really one of us, they are reshaim who wont listen to what we say .
The in the next sentence they will yell and scream about the Goyim and Torah haters who discrimate against true jews because they feel they should work
It’s really not that complicated: Bennet allied with Lapid, making it impossible for Netanyahu to form a coalition including the Chareidim. Case closed.
You missed the point why did Bennet feel he could make an alliance with Lapid instead of the charedi parties without destroying his own party. In Israel MK’s can leave their party and join other parties or their own party , It happens all the time.
It seems the Dati Leumi in israel would rather be with Chilonim than Charedim. HONESTLY ask yourself why. Saying they are Goyim and Hate torah is not truthful, The Dati Leumi are religious
If the Charedim never issued Siruvs or Charedim, you would have a point, but they do it all the time for other lesser offenses.
In fact one of the issues that has been brought up is the Charedi Chief Rabbnis issues too many Siruvs
Frankly, it wasn’t an issue that was related to the chareidi tzibbur. It was carried out by people who we know don’t listen to the gedolim, and was not sympathized with by anyone who does listen to the gedolim. We’ve been battling these sikrikim forever–they don’t care what we say.
How about kicking their kids out of the schools and kicking them out of every shul.
People did not defend it, but they didnt declared these people Reshaim like they do with many Dati Leumi Rabbis either.
Someone either sells to them or rents to them in RMS. Declare it assur to rent them an aparetment or sell them an apartment. I am sure if some Anti-religious Chiloni wanted to rent an apartment in RMS there would be mass upheval not to rent to them
I know lots of charedim. Not one would ever imagine that doing that was acceptable, much less mutar! Why didn’t the rabbis say something? The silence was deafening!!!
And Its time to end the excuses on it , Millions of dollars was spent on Asifas. Internet Bans, TV bands etc.
When Charedi Rabbis make a proclimation the Tzibur listens. They declare one must die or go to jail rather than go to the army and I am sure people will follow
How hard is it to say, We shall Banish the Sikarim who spit and curse 8 year old girls creating treamendous Chilul Hashem. They will not be allowed in our shuls , their children will not be allowed in our schools
The GOP recently comissioned a report and why they lost.
The haredim would be wise to act similary although not much research is given.
You do not win friends and influence people when some members of your community spit and taunt 8 year old girls and then claim they are not part of the community and nothing can be done. People are excommunited or put in Siruv for many offenses in the Charedi community including having a TV or using the internet. Surely you and excommunicatre and throw the children out of school of Sikirim who spit and taunt 8 year old girls.
You dont win friends when you call people Goyim, Haters of Torah etc who do not agree with you. Especially when their views are certainly within Halachic boundaries
The Charedim taking over the Marriages did not only did not stop non-kosher marriages , it made many people who could have married Kosher decide to be married in Cyrpus because they did not want the red tape. 20% of all marriages in Israel occur in Cyprus.
You dont take money from people and then act like you are doing a favor for them. Either dont take the money or at least be thankful for the generousity of other.
Rav Aharon Kotler used Iceberg Lettuce.
I will repeat, the Chief Rabbi is not for the Charedim, they have their own Rabbanim, ie the Belz answer to the Belzer Rebbe, the Ger to the Gerrer Rebbe, the LItvish to Rav Shteinmen The Sefardic Charedim to Rav Yosef etc this wouldnt change no matter who is the chief Rabbi
The Chief rabbi is for chilonim and deals with their religious issues and issues related to the government
Israel is worse than US, but Ive been to their houses in US
And you can tell when people are emaciated , the portions are smaller and the children are hungry. They dont broadcast it that they are hungry, but the signs are there if you look and they wont admit it of course.
Chessed organizations cannot raise the kinds of funds needed to feed large families
Go to KRM yourself and try buying for 8 kids. How much is the food $500 a week? More?
If you use $500 a week, thats $2000 a month
If you need for 1000 families , thats $2 Million dollars A MONTH. that is alot of money to raise
Only the government or by working can you raise that kind of funds.
no yeshiva can turn you down because you have no money
They can and they do
Bury your hand in the sand and think that malnutrition isnt a problem
zsdad: That is a boldfaced lie. Show me ANY widespread “malnutrition” in ANY Chareidi community.
If there isnt any malnutrition why give to Kupat Hair???
“widespread”, he said. -95
Poverty and Malnutrition is a big problem in many Charedi communities especially in Israel.
Some people have issues with their stomach, they might have GERD , They might have Gluten issues
Some people have swallowing issues , Some might have swallowing and digestive issues and have to eat slower and eat the Matza while drinking water to wash it down better.
People have had the Lap Band surgery have to watch how much they eat
Eating and digestive issues are quite commonm
When your kids are screaming because they are hungry, When the Power Company cuts off the Heat and Electric because they werent paid.
When the Creditors call you at all hours of the night demanding to be paid because your Visa and MC are Maxed out and Late payments
When the Landlord threatens to evict you for non-payment of rent
Not to mention your wife no matter how much an Ashes Chayil cannot but any food or wear anything that isnt ragged and torn, how much she will be upset
If that is Gan Eden…Id like to know what Gehenom is
We NEVER has mass Kollel learning, In Europe ONLY the top learners kept in yeshiva, the rest went to work.
Its only the welfare state that has allowed Kollel to exist, get rid of the welfare and kollel will cease to exist as it cannot be paid for.
While most jews do have Anglized FIRST names, most jews do stillhave jewish LAST names