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June 6, 2014 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095124zahavasdadParticipant
Ive never heard of anyone revoking Smicha, although I could be wrong about that. Is there a case of BMG for example revoking a Smicha from someone
zahavasdadParticipantAlso in 1944 it was possible to move between Hungary and Romania and survive the war .
I knew quite a few people who did this including some relatives of mine
zahavasdadParticipantTo be fair, by 1943 there was nowhere to flee. They should have listened to Jabotinsky in 1938, when there were still a few places that were letting Jews in.
The Satmar Rebbe or the Belzer Rebbe , who were in Hungary in 1944, could have told their flee resist going into the ghettos and resist going into the trains. The Gedolim today are telling their flock to totally resist going into the army, why didnt they do this in 1944. If the Nazi had to drag every jew into the train they would have been greatly slowed down. The Nazis were short Ammo, they could not shoot every jew. They needed the jews to comply with order
zahavasdadParticipantIn Hungary they were specially told it was safe and in Hungary the Rabbanic Leaders knew what was happening to the Polish Jewery.
One could make the excuse that Polish Rabbanim could not predict what would happen, however the Hungarian Rabbanim had no such excuse. Auschwitz and Treblinka were known about in 1943
June 3, 2014 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095095zahavasdadParticipantI dont exist. I am an avatar
ZD, if you look at the list of their alumni, most of them do have jobs for which a JTS alum would be hired, such as Hillels and such. However, several YCT grads have been hired by places that would never hire a JTS grad (such as the Helsinki Chief Rabbinate — chief rabbis are pretty much always Orthodox — and a few solidly MO shuls in the US).
There are about 1500 jews in Helsinki, Its really not a lot. Ther are more jews on a block in Borough park
Why doesnt the Agudah apply for these jobs like Hillels or the Helsinki Chief Rabbi and Dont think it cant be Done Chabad does it and they are chief Rabbis in places like Ukraine and Russia and I dont know if they are head of any Hillels, but they do have Chabad houses on college campuses
June 3, 2014 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095092zahavasdadParticipantSo please tell us exactly how many YCT graduated have gotten real pulpits?
Of course there are a few, but once you make an actual count instead of “theory” you will realize differently
zahavasdadParticipantHaLevi
The Belz Rebbi in his final Tish in Hungary in 1944 told his flock to stay in Hungary that it was safe there and it was assur to go to Palestine
June 3, 2014 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095088zahavasdadParticipantGo to their website and see how many graduates they really have, their graduates are not accepted by the RCA and most MO shuls will not hire Rabbis who are not members of the RCA.
The only places that would hire them are places that would hire JTS people.
There are lot more OTDers than YCT people. I doubt anyone here actually knows a YCT graduate or a member of the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale. Most of us dont even know anyone in Riverdale
June 3, 2014 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095075zahavasdadParticipantzd: The Novominsker wasn’t concerned with his followers falling for these deviants. He was primarily concerned with the out of town communities where these malcontents are taking rabbinic pulpits and/or otherwise influencing local Orthodox communities.
OO isnt getting many pulpit positions out of town either, but if the was really concerned instead of condeming OO, why doesnt the Agudah send people to these communities to take these jobs.
Chabad does this and has alot of influence than OO does.
June 3, 2014 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095069zahavasdadParticipantthe fact of the matter is Open Orthodoxy is small and basically unimportant. I seriously doubt many followers of the Novominsker Rebbe are attracted to Open Orhtodoxy
zahavasdadParticipantThis is what they call a straw man. There is nobody, and I mean nobody who goes to a Godol for actual medical advice rather than to a doctor.
Proponets of Daas Torah bring up the case where the Chazon Ish told a Brain Surgeon where to operate.
There are also cases where supposedly a Gadol told a averach to go see a certain doctor instead of the specialist
zahavasdadParticipantBklynmom is a Fraud!!!
She lives on Staten Island
zahavasdadParticipantStaten Island isnt cheap, the only reason is cheaper than Brooklyn is because the commute is longer.
When people triple park on Victory Blvd and block every driveway it will become Borough Park, until then it is not
zahavasdadParticipantI heard this from a Rabbi. Not a Gadol,just a pulpit Rabbi. He was explaining about talking in Davening and how to stop it.
Klopping on the table was not the solution.
He basically admitted that most people talk because they are bored and the words dont mean anything especially in a foreign language.The longer the davening and the more breaks , like between aliyot the more likely there is going to be talking.
He had suggested somewhat speeding up the davening and making it more interesting like more singing. Of course some here are going to say here what is more interesting that talking to hashem, but the reality is people dont nessasarily think that or at least act that way
zahavasdadParticipantThe Gedolim specially told people not to go to the US (Before 1924) or Israel (In the 1930’s)
There were lots of Pograms in Europe and an especially bad one in 1881 which is what caused the massive emigration to the US.
In the 1930’s it was possible to go to Palestine,I once met a woman who wanted to go to Palestine in the 1930’s I guess as a teen. Her parents asked a Psak and the Psak was no and she stayed in Europe. She did survive, but her family did not and she suffered greatly, I dont think she ever got over camps.
zahavasdadParticipantDont count your parades until they actually occur
zahavasdadParticipantWhy should one assume the story about the Chazon Ish and the Brain Surgery is true without proof , but assume stories that Gedolim told people to stay in Europe wasnt true and proof should be given about those statements.
zahavasdadParticipantGammit
The Daas Torah I am quoting from 1944 was given in public
zahavasdadParticipantI should also add the Daas Torah giver in 1944 , gave it as his last speech in Hungary before he himself left for Palestine and survived the war himself.
zahavasdadParticipantThis thread started a few years ago, Is he supposed to go in the Army soon?
zahavasdadParticipantIn January 1944 A Daas Torah was given in Hungary that Jews should stay in Hungary rather than leave.
In April 1944 Admiral Horthy was overthrown and the gavel of Auschwitz fell on the Jews of Hungary
May 29, 2014 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm in reply to: Photo Essay: Approximately 10,000 Women Attend Internet Asifa In Boro Park (?) #1018296zahavasdadParticipantIts actually pretty simple to figure it out
Each chair is sbout 2 feet wide . 2 feet deep and you need another 2 feet in front of you for leg room meaning you need 8 Square Foot per person
Now multiply this by 10,000 chairs and you will get an idea how many square feet you need for the chair. Of course you actually need more space as you need aisles and room for the dias and the sound equipment
zahavasdadParticipant#putanadoncraigslist
#peopledoitallthetime
zahavasdadParticipantDont belive every video you watch, some are staged
May 29, 2014 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm in reply to: Photo Essay: Approximately 10,000 Women Attend Internet Asifa In Boro Park (?) #1018291zahavasdadParticipant10,000 was unlikely. There is not building in Borough Park Big Enough to legally sit 10,000 people. They would have needed to be in a bigger venue like the Barclys , or the Garden. I dont even think the Brooklyn Armory can legally hold 10,000 people
zahavasdadParticipantCheapest option is to get someone to drive it for you if you are unwilling to do it yourself
zahavasdadParticipantGuy had a dream that he drowned while crossing a certain bridge. R’ Chaim told him to ignore it, as we pasken that we don’t listen to dreams [please: the psak is not the point]. He repeatedly had the dream, and he kept giving him the same pask. He traveled over that bridge… and drowned! Family came to R’ Chaim, obviously upset. He told them: My psak was correct, and I would do the same even after having this knowledge!
How come you never repeat the stories where the shaila was asked what to do (when then Nazis came) and the psak was stay and you will be safe and then the Nazis came and sent the person to Auschwitz, and there are such stories.
zahavasdadParticipant“Worse case scenario, they’re wrong, and when the beis din shel maalah asks us, we did all we can.”
Did someone who asked a Gadol in 1939 what to do and the Gadol said stay put and the person ran away and was saved, Did they do an Averiah?
zahavasdadParticipantI am not sure what you mean, Nobody would hire him because of the way he looks, but that might not be true. Someone with Long Hair, who wears T-shirts and jeans would not be a good fit for a Seforim Store, but might be a very good fit for a Music Store.
zahavasdadParticipantI had said I hated chopped live , but if served as a guest in someones house I would eat it even though i hate it.
If I was a guest in someones house and they served me veal, I would eat it and not give the host a lecture it is my choice, not the hosts. I doubt I would ever get fois gras served to me
zahavasdadParticipantI eat meat I am not a vegatrarian, I have never seen kosher Fois Gras although Ive heard it exists but I would not eat it anyway. You are correct I do not eat Veal because of the way the animals are treated.
There is no Mitzvah to eat Fois Gras or Veal and If Rav Moshe Permits it that is fine, He permits it not requires it. As stated Rav Ovadiah Yosef does not allow it. I am sure there are others who also do not permit it or at least discourage it.
zahavasdadParticipantI think people here are mixing up Vegaerian and Vegatarism.
Vegatarian means you dont eat meat, although the reason is not stated, it could be health or it could be because you dont belive in killing animals or you just dislike meat. There is no majority reason, although health usually is the #1 reason.
Vegatarianism means you are not eating meat because of some moral reason
zahavasdadParticipantIn the US if first cousins marry in NY, its generally recognized througout the US
zahavasdadParticipantIn general today, most organizations that do conversions will convert you based on your lineage. Therefore if your ancestors come from Iran for example, they will convert you Sephardic, however if you are European Ancestry they will convert your Ashkenanzic
zahavasdadParticipantWhy would you question someone who became a vegatarian for health reasons or someone who just doesnt like meat?
It is much healthier to be a vegatarian (I am NOT one,I eat meat probably too much of it) and I can tell you it is no fun to eat something you dont like, I dislike Gefilte Fish and I hate Chopped Liver. While I dont have these things in my house, when I am somewhere else and its served to me, I force myself to somehow gulp it down. and then quickly drink something so I dont have to taste it especially the chopped liver YUCH
zahavasdadParticipantSo is it tzar Ballei Chaim to shove a pipe down an animals throat and use a plunger to force feed it?
zahavasdadParticipantThe circumference of a globe is wider at the equator than say 70 degrees North latitute so the further north you fly the shorter the distance to circumnavigate the globe.
New York is about 40 Degrees North Latitude and London is about 50 Degrees north Latitude
zahavasdadParticipantI dont think it is because it would look something like this
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Just look at the lines and ignore the arrows
zahavasdadParticipantNon-euclidian geometry is shtus. Euclid was right.
The shortest distance between 2 places is not always a straight line
If you fly from New York to London, the shortest distance is not a straight line but rather fly north to where the globe is smaller fly across the atlantic there and then fly south to London. Use a string on a globe and you will see this is true
zahavasdadParticipantTrefos is not as big an issue as you think, They just sell the chickens as non kosher, yes it will get less, but if you pack more chickens in the carrier you will more than make up for the loss.
It isnt like the olden days where a trief animal was a big loss, today its fairly small and you still make money, just not as much
zahavasdadParticipantIt is not tree hugging to think its wrong to shove a pipe down an animals throat and use a plunger to shove the food down its throat to cause the liver to expand.
I am not familiar with the history of Fois Gras was available in the time of the Gemorah, nor was much of the industrialness of todays meat processing. If you think its OK to shove a pipe down a birds throat and use a plunger to force feed it for your gastronomical enjoyment, then you really have no compasion
zahavasdadParticipantIn general very few places in the world have Kosher restaurants near major attractions, The frum commuinities are almost always not near the tourist attractions
About the only example I can think of is Rome where the Jewish Ghetto is right near the Vatican and the Colleseum. Even in NY the frum communities are in Brooklyn not really Manhattan
zahavasdadParticipantAffordable New York City is an Oxymoron
zahavasdadParticipantI think there is a real debate if Foie Gras can ever been kosher because of the way the animals are treated even though it is a kosher animal
I personally wouldnt eat it, even if it was. I also dont eat Veal for similar reasons because of the way the animal is treated
zahavasdadParticipantI personally eat meat and I dont think Shechita is immoral, but if you saw how some of the animals are raised you might not nessasarily think its so moral
Veal for instance , many times the animals are immobolized so they cannot move and are massaged, its gives the meat a certain less fat taste.
Foie Gras, the Goose are force fed to enlarge the liver
Chickens are placed in coops that are too crowded and the chickens start to peck each other (Many people only eat Free range chickens for this reason)
Cattle are fed the remains of other cattle (Cattle are herbavoires not carnivores) and this was how mad cow disease spread
zahavasdadParticipantEat what you want and be happy
If you dont like or want to eat meat, dont. It is no simcha to eat something you dont like.
I was at someones house as a guest and they served me chopped liver and I hate chopped liver, IMO its one of the worst foods ever invented. I ate it because I didnt want to embarrass my host, but I will never serve it in my house. It was no simcha to eat it. I dont care for Chicken either. I hardly ever buy it. It is no simcha to eat chicken if you dont like it.
May 19, 2014 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm in reply to: Israeli conscription – Worst case scenario – Not Likely #1015731zahavasdadParticipantA wise saying, He who controls the Kings Treasury Controls the King.
As the money is taken the charedim must accept that it will come with more and more conditions, If they dont like the conditions they will starve and I really doubt any country will take people who want to come for welfare. They want people who will work and pay taxes. I doubt the German government really cares about torah learning
May 19, 2014 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm in reply to: Israeli conscription – Worst case scenario – Not Likely #1015725zahavasdadParticipantUkraine and Belraus are not in the EU , Lithuania is
Its harder to get Religious asylum in the us than you think, especially from a friendly ally. I cant speak for Canada though
zahavasdadParticipantThe problem with bonfire on Motzei Shabbos is you have to prepare in advance. In the US you need time to get the police gates and fire trucks ready and have permits all set up. You also need to scour the area for flammable items (In case a piece of fire breaks off) you
In Israel they have to have the Police, Army and Fire Department set up the area. Comb the area for terrorists, Make sure there arent any flammable items nearby etc
Large crowds especially with fire just dont happen safely, you need to prepare. You need time to also get the fire extenguishers around etc.
Yes, if it was Sunday afternoon they could still work on Shabbos, but at least there is time to prepare. If the Bonfire is 1 hour after shabbos you just dont have the time to prepare safely
May 19, 2014 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm in reply to: Israeli conscription – Worst case scenario – Not Likely #1015723zahavasdadParticipantSure the Charedim can Emigrate to Belz, Ukraine ; Brest (Brisk) , Beleraus ; or Vilinius (Vilna) Lithuania , they will be treated better than than Israel
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