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good stuff. keep the names coming.
The war is far away.
Can someone direct me to the original thread..i have no idea whats going on here.Thanks.
Im not going to comment on the back and forth here because its not going to help you.
My advice is to use that day to ask Hashem to show you the real truth. You dont have to daven the whole thing or if you want to keep on asking Hashem to show you the truth and to have good emunah. Get a book that proves the Torah is divine and read it the whole day.
Prague is beautiful and there is a chabad house and some kosher places to eat. I backpacked in Scotland not knowing what to expect and we found a small community called Giffnock in middle of nowhere with chassidim. But not much anything else jewish in Scotland.
This is to the starter of this thread and whoever else is being ridiculously ignorant in regard to this situation.
1. You are basing your claims of massive chillul hashem on news reports when you have no idea what happened on the flight.
2.Please do not blame the yeshiva. I myself can tell you that i have been on many flights in my life and bochurim from “top yeshivos” also cause problems on planes by blocking aisles trying to make minyanim, blocking the bathrooms when davening,etc. Even after the pilot came out and tried to make them sit down – they did not listen. That is a true chilul hashem.
Again you have no idea what happened on the plane and you are using it as an excuse to bash the Yeshiva of Flatbush.
If you want i can tell you many more stories of kids from top yeshivas acting very rowdy in very serious holy places.So please take it back and move along.
It was very messed up this year. I have bene going to Meron for 6 years and live near by so i know the routes,etc.I left Meron at 3:30 am on Motzei Shabbos/Sunday Morning to get home with some friends.We live nearby. We got to the bus parking lots which are usually very organized and there were only 2 busses and at least 500 people trying to get on.We decided to walk back to Tzfat.Since we are from around the area, we cut through the forests but before that we walked dwon the road.It looked like Krias Yam Suf. 1000’s of yidden walking towards meron from miles away.. We eventually made it back after four hours.Im not mad at the transportation since i wasnt travelling with anybody in my family but if i had kids with me or my wife, i would not have been able to hike back. Hopefully next year they fix it up. The main problem was that the main parking lot got full very early and cause major traffic jams.
if i remember correctly i saw in Sefer Nitei Gavriel the source of the minhag is Yitzchak Avine leading Rivkah into his tent after she came to the fields to see him.Pretty sure.
I dont sign on unless i have to and this is one time where i will sign on.
First of all,i dance with my wife by my mitzva tantz.My firends were there but not all of them.It was a very important part for me.Very holy.The minhag has its roots in many Kabbalistic and Chassidic sources.
I feel like people from Out of Town dont get it and think its only a New York thing because Chassidim dont usually live out of town and its more of a chassidic minhag.
Also, i think you all need to relax.The minhag is to have a chosson to take hold of his Kallah;s hand directly after the chuppah and all of you who are bugging about them touching..they touch then and that is a halacha that they have to acc to many poskim.Secondly, i think its mamash a beautiful thing for a chosson and kallah to dance together in front of people.Brings Hahsme glory in.BH.
Do you really think that our “gedolim” are on the level of Moshe Rabbenu?!
Actually they are not.Not even close.Moshe was a rea leader of Klal Yisroel.People actually listened to him. Today we have gedolim in torah but not in leadership and people in America def dont listen to them so they are not our leaders.Please tell me the last time you followed a gadol’s psak against the internet,cell phones,way of dress,not working,etc,etc?
The Gaon was a huge tzaddik but it also doesnt make sense just to follow him over the baal shem tov.The way yeshivas learn today and teach Hashkfah(minus Emunah) is not the way the Vilna Gaon had planned.Even in Volizhin they learned a daf a day with rishonim.We made up our own system though.
Its funny how you think the Litivish/yeshivish world is mainstream klal yisroel…do you really think that it is the same as the time by the Gaon?.Its also funny as how you accept the Gaon but not the Baal Shem Tov for some reason as authority on matters.Its also funny that you decided to make this a topic because even if you accept that the cherem still stands,you will do nothing about it.
I am a chossid.BH.I love the Vilna Gaon.Opposite of whatever he was trying to accomplish.
I usually dont sign on to this place anymore but once in awhile ill frequent in here and give a few words.
I went to a couple “popular yeshivas”..lots of guys in the yeshivas were in other yeshivas previously that deal with drug problem,etc and then they got back in to it.They were the greatest guys i know.So solid and very shtark.
Basically,there are a couple of things you have to find out?
1.What type of drugs he was on?
Nowadays marijauna/pot isnt considered such a big deal.I can say that i smoke pot 5 times in my life with no after effects and im fine,married,learning,it wasnt even a phase – just wanted to see what it was.I would say guys in yeshivas try these things but keep it hidden more than you would think.
If its just weed/marijuana then its really not a big deal at all.If it was pills or much heavier drugs that involve needles and cost thousands of dollars to keep the habit then it becomes much bigger.
Also did he go to rehab?
All in all,i know lots of these types of guys and they are awesome.His phase was probably in High School..high school isnt fun…it was probably just experimenting,etc.
Tell her to go out with him and eventually if they continue she could speak to him about it.I spoke to my wife when i was dating about pretty much everything i did.
and last but not least,dont believe psychologists.
Gevalt..the world has come to this.Wearing a tie isnt a chiyuv at all so you shouldnt worry yourself with this shtus.Following chumras causes depression and sadness according to Rebbe Nachman of Breslov.I havent signed on to this place in 2 year but for this i needed to.
when u wear colored clothes
when u realize that people who told u the govt in Israel is the worst thing is like the dumbest thing to believe.
I would take it as a message from hashem like anything else in this world.
Our schools curriculum has been wack for years already.There’s no need for all this.Ive been saying ti for years,Kids dont need to be learning Babva metzie in 5th grade…teach them Berachos,stories,about tzaddikim,keep them busy and frum enough until they are older and really want it..or else they go wild.
im with toi…
this stuff makes me sick worse than anything.It stupid tha “we have to prepare for shidduchim”.Hashem is in charge.We make efforts but really its nothing compared to the hashgacha that hashem does everything with.i know people in big yeshivas who arent married and people who you wouldnt talk to from small yeshivas who are married.
just walking around and seeing every1 light is awesome.There are usually a couple of concerts in jerusalem
i have also been to many diras and yeshivas.There are always some bad people everywhere.But the good that Eretz Yisroel does is much better than the bad you claim it does.Those people who usually do bad have parents that are to overprotective and so when they get a chance they bust out.Everything starts at home.Im here for 5 years and so far the worst thing i did was get drunk and sleep late.
Next….as to ur claim of kedusha..
Please go check wikipidea and type in Jerusalem Syndrome..it is a real thing..real syndrome..read it.Ive seen it happen.
You shouldnt be naive.U think ur kids will do better in America?
let her live and dream.She’s going to get old soon and realize whats up.I wouldnt worry about this to much.I can think of 8 million more things to worry about.Peace.
2scents..what did u see exactly?
I think u r wrong.
Ive been here for 5 years.
Please dont speak lashon hara about eretz yisroel.The reason people go a little nuts is because the kedusha is so much stronger here than it is in America.it takes some time to get used to.
Being here 5 years i can tell u some things.
If u trust ur kid in the states.Trust him/her to.If she’s normal she wont get into to much trouble.Everything is an experience.Dont be surprised if she gets drunk once.
U dont need anything American except for clothing and some toiletries.There are many stores in jerusalem that sell all American products but a lil more expensive.
The main thing is to watch her money.Only give certain amounts.She should take busses and not be scared.The whole Israel is on busses all day.
Girls eat more than guys becuz their schedules permit it.She”ll learn how to cook a little and she’ll figure out the rest in due time.
Call her everyday so she doesnt get homesick and dont get nervous when u hear of something bad happening in Israel.Chances are she wasnt close.
Many times frantic mothers called me looking for their sons…thinking they would be in Tel Aviv at the nearest terror attack rachmana litzlan for no reason at all.
Hashem watches over Eretz Yisroel.Just chill.
its very sad that yeshivos dont focus on aliba d’hilchasa type learning.Its lomdus only.
Yeshivas nowadays are more interested in learning Lamdanus for some reason.Shabbos just doesnt have enough.Oy.
Yes..Im a huge fan..Sun king one of the best songs ever made.
No thats not what im saying.Im just saying that we have to be careful of the sheitels that are worn and what women are wearing them with.The real problem is that sheitels make a girl look single.If a girl who is 24,25 who is married and is walking around but without her kid/kids….and her sheitel is done right she can look like a single girl which could be a problem.
Some women look like models in sheitels and some look like good girls.
Bnei Brak has tons of like multi-wedding halls..very cheap.Maybe also Ulam Beis Yisroel in Ezras Torah.You can have music to.
Im sure Rav Moshe thought of that but maybe he didnt realize that soon women will start to dress more and more provocative.
why u guys keep on going about davening late?
not everone davens late.
Ok i guess i was wrong.:)
I dont know about those sems.Did you check out Peninim…?
I hear Tiferet is a good place though.
This is response to Pashutayid…..
Im well aware that Rav moshe gave a heter to wear a sheite,my mother wears one and my sister wears one.The point is besides the heter,think for yourself..Men look at women in shietels more than they look at women in tichels.Its a sad truth.
r u kidding?
I go in time.
My “Chassidish Rebbe” says to daven as early as possible.
Some tzaddikim can do it cuz its not out of time..they live differently.
no im not the same member.I dont think its a bad word..thats why the mods let it through.This yeshivaworld.com where they report things in a kosher way but not to much that it would just be news about gedolim.They report on Occupy Wall Street which is a bunch of hippies living “very freely”.This whole idea of a message board is a lot more “extreme” than the word i just used.No offense.Secondly,I do not thin that the mods look at every post.There could be like 500 posts in an hour and im sure they arnet paying some1 to read our stuff.they have a machine/filter and this word wasnt one of the bad ones.Peace.
u missed the whole point of this thread.I wasnt looking for approval.Im asking if you learn it and how u feel about it.Someone asked me a person question so i answered.
I will explain.I come from a very heimish family.my father has chassidish minhagim which he got from his father who was part of ger chassidim.i didnt grow up chassidish but when i got to israel..i got very into it and continue to learn and practice.There is nothing lacking in my mesorah..what was lacking was the world that i was learning in..very dry..making everyone the same.It works for certain people just not for me so i explored and got into chassidus.My Rebbe at the time(this was about a year after getting into it)pulled me aside one day and gave me a card for a psychiatrist…he said to me..in case you feel like killing yourself one day(because of the chassidus)call this number first.BH im still alive and happy and BH i stopped talking to him after that.This was a person who learned by gedolim to.Im not going out against anything.Im asking what your opinion on the matter is.Eventually i had to leave that yeshiva,i was aksed to leave because of my beard.
Nowadays,in most mainstream American yeshivos in Israel,they teach very little chassidus but some have started and its growing.
Some rebbes will laugh in ur face if u mention the baal shem tov to them.
There is a crisis but its not a full one..the people that are in the crisis i think eventually get married.The main key is that people must let go of their “(insert your fav non bad word here”)and go out and think and look and chilll and daven tons and be a good jew and dont give up because ive been out with lots of girls..some i really wanted to marry ..then u bump into them a year later and you cry so much because hashem saved u so good.Peace.
we need a quote feature plus avatar(side pics of anything..goes next to ur name)and a profile page for each member.Therefore it will be the yeshivish facebook.
every shaitel is very natural looking….thats the issue with them.Tell her to get extensions or loook on the internet.
in the morning between 8-11…maariv could be from 6 till 4 am..who knows.
You should change your bad habits b4 u get married.Im not talking about stupid little things…like serious bad habits..when you have a wife with you things are harder to change while u r trying to build a steady stable relationship.Im not married but i can imagine.
unfortunately unless i really push it in America….
look at it this way…
the mishna talks about girls going out in white and dancing and boys would choose…..why is that not done today..it would be good for shidduchim.
Thank you BaalHabooze(i like the name and booze to)i spoke to lots of people about it in Israel.I was speaking to lots of people from the States who were visiting Israel..reg. normal frum lakewood dudes..and they were telling me the shidduch scene is not so good there…
we have to get rabbis to sign on it or else it wont work..so any volunteers?
Nowadays we are affected to much by TV and Movies.I will admit that i still watch movies but try to forget everything i learned about romance thru them.Saying yes is easy for me…i dont think lots of people are picky,i just think the whole setting that dating is done is not good for certain people.
Anything be Lee Child or Harlan Coben.Peace.
Basically,just realize that if you dont start doing things..things arent going to happen.I dont know if you are married but its hard to change bad habits once you are married and it will reflect in your marriage.Lists sometimes work but basically when u have a thought to do something..just do it.Peace.
If im in a very interesting mood…bars in Israel are jewish and frum people are there to.I told u its diff. and things like sitting in the park on the grass for a date even for a serious girl is accepted..just walking around..its not like America where u gotta go to the lounge.I have never taken a girl to a bar..a girl asked one time to get a drink after dinner so we went to a bar.i dont think its such a big deal.
Because i Smoke.i always tell shadchanim that i smoke and to tell the girls and i still get dates bh.Most time i smoke on dates if im comfortable and she is to…i date in a diff. setting than most people here..Israel…when you date in Israel its very diff. chill than in NY.