Sushe: they are quoting daas Torah, not the Torah itself.

Computers have caused a lot of problems in the world. I don’t think this is one of them.

Unless it’s a government office that needs to get rid of some excess $$$$

There exists a need not to get all that one desires!

It’s interesting that you didn’t respond to the flip side of what I said.

As for this, yup there indeed does exist a need not to get all one desires. But you said that if all one needs are met only then can they be givers. Are you saying that that becomes true only if ALL needs are met? And if in one area it’s not met, then it becomes not true. Sorry. I don’t think there is any truth in that. And I highly doubt you can find many people who have all their needs met, and certainly not by the givers of the world.

sushe: “The Torah is absolute. “

What is your point? Who argued about what it says in the Torah?

Patri: I reread what the post says. It says “the Shechina is manifest in a house which is conducted according to the attribute of mercy.”

I had read it wrong and of course this is true, a home that is run with the attribute of mercy, the Shechnia will reside.

On the other hand, when the members of a home are controlled by the man of the house, that home is usually NOT a home of mercy. I don’t care what proof you will bring to me that shows that it is.

yichusdik: forget about no bad happening in the house. Anyone who thinks the Shechina is found in such a home is a fool

Oomis: 5-6 weeks is pretty long time to date. I highly doubt there are more divorces in that group than those who dated a year. A year is way too long and is ridiculous.

Patri: regardless of whether the statement is true or not, it is obvious Naysberg made it up in response to moiauss’s statement.

Naysberg: You made that up. OTOH, what moi aussi said is likely true.

I don’t understand. Monsey Mom said Chag kosher v’sameach, implying it was post from shortly before Pesach. Post says it was posted 6 months ago, which wasn’t before Pesach. Can anyone explain?

…. and while of course they never admit to anything, to others who read the exchange it becomes clear who proved what.

Excellent!

Middlepath:”computer777, actually, I think it DOES apply here. Obviously, we must do our best to try to have a positive influence on other religious Jews to make them want to stay religious, but if someone DOES become non-religious, we still should consider them Jews, and never treat them as second class. “

I agree with what you said, but I fail to see how that has to do with the goyim considering them Jewish enough to hate and persecute them. They are Jews and we must treat them like Jews because they have a yiddish neshama which cannot be changed, not because the goyim consider them Jews.

Oomis: what the world cares is not our concern. If the world would decide that being unobservant makes them not Jewish, would that give us license to treat them as not Jewish?

Oomis: I never understood that argument. We don’t determine a Jew according to what the goyim think.

And in fact, goyim who had a Jewish father or other Jewish ancestor were also considered Jewish by the Nazis and persecuted and killed just like the Jews were.

And it certainly doesn’t apply here. Is it ok for a ffb to want to be not religious and we say, oh, no problem, at least you remain a Jew since the goyim will still consider you a Jew.

Now your message itself, that we shouldn’t look down at others who are (in our minds) “less observant” is well taken.

Sushe: I don’t know the % of wives who release their husbands from their obligation, but I’m sure it’s much less than 99%.

Furthermore, for some strange reason, women are not told they have this option.

A woman has a right to release her husand from his obligation to support her, and her earnings and possessions then remain her own.

from revach.net

The Arizal says that you should not read pasukim at night. Does this apply to saying Tehilim as well? The Btzel HaChochma (4:46) brings down a number of sources that say the Arizal never meant saying pasukim of Tehilim. He further says that it has become an accepted practice in Klal Yisroel to say Tehilim after Chatzos.

He quotes the Yosef Ometz who says that in Chevron and Yerushalayim, where they followed the Minhag Ari, they would wake up at Chatzos to say Tehilim. The Medrash says that Yaakov Avinu said Tehilim at night. Dovid HaMelech said Tehilim at night and even composed most of Tehilim at night. However, adds the Yosef Ometz, that although when asked by someone about this practice he permits it because there are sources to rely on, nevertheless he himself is afraid and he refrains from doing so. The lone exception is Thursday night and Friday night since Rav Chaim Vital specifically says that the problems of saying pasukim at night are not applicable on these nights.

Lastly he brings from the Aishel Avrohom that even before Chatzos it is permissible to say Tehilim since Chazal tell us that Hashem considers the Tehilim we say as if we are learning the difficult mishnayos of Nega’im and Ohalos whose time is the beginning of the night. The Btzel HaChochma therefore concludes that it is permissible to say Tehilim the entire night.

Doswin: It is enough that she doesn’t want to live anymore with her husband. The only thing that can happen if she doesn’t have good enough reason is she doesn’t get her kesubah.

Women go out today whenever they need to. To the doctor, the grocery or anyplace they feel is necessary. If she is allowed to go out when necessary, then she can go to work even if it’s only because she wants to.

Coffee Addict: you implied otherwise.

The way I heard the story of the Chofetz Chaim was that he gave one (or five) minutes of learning (or tehillim).

What is your source for him giving up 1 (or 5) minute(s) of his life?

“If I am I because I am I – and you are you because you are you, then I am I and you are you. But if I am I because you are you, and you are you because I am I, then I am not I and you are not you.”

For anyone suffering from low esteem I recommend “Pulling Your Own Strings” by Wayne Dyer. It is an amazing book, and has the power to literally change a person’s life.

Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stranger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion- and who, therefore, in the next instant (when it is evident that the minority is the stronger) assume its opinion… while Truth again reverts to a new minority.

R’ Shalom Shwadron. I read the book: “Voice of Truth: The life and eloquence of Rabbi Sholom Schwadron, the unforgettable Maggid of Jerusalem”, a few times. An amazing inspiration.

It is very interesting but every single case of what these kids say are basically the same (at least what I have read). My guess is the facilliator is the same person and everything is coming from her/him.

The first time I read it around 20 years ago, I thought, you know maybe it’s real. The second time, I felt it was less real. The third time, no way. They can’t all be saying the same kind of talk. For example they all speak about the egel hazahov. Sorry, it’s impossible they all have the same manner of speaking.

So I don’t believe in it.

Dovid clearly had a very special neshama. He was a real mentch, a ruchniusdiga person and had a good affect on everyone he met.