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one cannot shrug off the aforementioned Chazal as being for a different era
What if we’re too spoiled?
Even the roshei yeshiva pushing for 21 (which are not all RY) aren’t saying 18. Are they all shrugging off Chazal?
The feature is there as a wetness indicator to tell him if he’s wet. Also as a side it gives him the will to stay dry as he doesn’t want the picture to fade.
The first might be considered nicha lei, the second wouldn’t be.
Meno, there is koseiv and mochek on pictures.
Yidden got married not long after their Bar/Bas Mitzvah. No one is suggesting we go back to that age marriage
Why not?
A Superbowl party doesn’t belong in a shul simcha room either.
At what cost you ask. Maybe at a cost of less heartache for all the young people, their parents, and family who are stranded in the shidduch crisis.
That’s not cost, that’s benefit. You say it outweighs the cost? Fine, valid opinion, but acknowledge the cost.
I know young men who are unbelievably immature at a time when other young men are already husbands and fathers.
Marriage matures. Agreed, but isn’t there a minimum starting maturity needed?
If the expectations change, the people will change with them.
Again, agreed, but would you say if the expectation was to marry at 14 years old, they would be mature at 14?
You also never addressed the years of lost learning.
Why is that feature there?
You need to ask a real posek, not the CR, but off the top of my head, it’s ??? ?????, and if it’s ?? ???? ??? (which is why I asked the purpose of it fading) it shouldn’t be a problem. It’s a big if, though.
Takahmamash, she seems to be saying that being chareidi, as opposed to other forms of frumkeit (sorry, gavra, but I will continue to use the term which 99% of us use) is merely external, which shows an unfair bias.
Of course, I don’t know the person or context in which it was said, so I’m open to explanation that that is not what was meant.
Barry, no problem.
Squeak, we can be considered not only as creation to Creator, but also as children to Father, subjects/servants to King, and even ???? ??? ?????, whatever that means. We also find the ???? of ??? ???? as a description of the relationship between HKB”H and klal Yisroel.
I don’t know why you dismiss the notion of relationship. Of course it’s very different than human to human relationships, but Chazal did use human relationships as a moshol.
You want the girls to get married younger, which would increase the gap. If the boys get married younger, the girls getting married younger will keep the gap the same.
The question as far as boys getting married younger is, at what cost? Will they lose years of learning, and will they be prepared for marriage?
Missed by one.
x2?
What are we up to now?
The girls also learn Torah sheba’al peh as necessary, just not Mishnayos and Gemara.
Satmar doesn’t allow the girls to learn any Torah shba’al peh, except (I assume) halachah.
And we’re supposed to strive to do things l’chatchila.
At what expense?
You don’t need to walk a cat.
They are, and there are limits to how they can be handled.
Your words
(we are not allowed to call it food stamps lest we shame the person heaven forfend)
give off the impression that you wish you could shame them.
Squeak, it sounded like it was supposed to be an approximation of the actual numbers.
Certainly, the presentation doesn’t inspire confidence in the accuracy.
You are making judgements about people whose circumstances you are only guessing at, and even if you’re right, you still shouldn’t shame them.
So you think it’s proper to shame people?
The Queen, in your neck of the woods, what are the typical ages of chassanim/kallahs?
Squeak, yes it was amateurish. Couldn’t they have at least had it printed instead of hand written?
He did give a number of excess girls, besides a percentage, so I don’t understand that complaint.
I agree that the other factors weren’t accounted for, but it’s really, really hard to believe that they play a major role.
Maybe they’re the Islamic version of Karaim.
Then I guess she’s a bigot.
Do pet stores have such interviews?
You didn’t explain why they’re not raffle prizes.
You did make a good case for there to be a great responsibility on the winner.
Females can also be bigots.
What was the original?
Barry,
I don’t think you understand what I said.
Gavra,
Yes, I know you have your meshugas about the term “frum”, but most people simply use it to refer to shomer Torah umitzvos.
“Frum is the relationship one has with God. Chareidi is how you present yourself to the rest of the world.” Quoted from a friend of mine.
Frum could also be completely external, and chareidi could be one’s relationship with HKB”H. If you friend doesn’t agree, he’s a bigot.
Why aren’t pets raffle prizes?
And what do the babies usually tell you they’d like to get?
A set of R’ Shimons.
You’re right. He should turn his back on the customer and not apologize for the mistaken sign.
Nevertheless, the customer spent time in the store to choose a product based on the posted pricing
True, and that’s unfair, but it’s not quite as bad as if the sale was advertised outside of the store.
I still think it’s important to know whether it was intentional or not. Either way, the salesperson acted like a jerk.
the false advertising is worse and is geneivas daas by stealing the potential customer’s time, causing him to come into the store under false pretenses
The sign wasn’t in the window.
Thank you very much.
Are those the men’s hours or the women’s hours? (JK)
What are the hours?
What would you consider yourself in chu”l? Because the term “Modern Orthodox”, much to the chagrin of people who would call themselves that and are totally shomer Torah umitzvos, also includes marginally religious.
Do you think it was a ploy to get you to buy the glasses or they were just too lazy to take the signs down?
Why do you assume that “Dati” only applies to people who aren’t completely (hashkafically) shomer Torah umitzvos, leaving the term “chareidi” for everyone else?
If it is these qualities you are looking for, a baseball cap from Modells would do the trick.
You could also wear a colorful beanie with a propeller.
heres another one: saying elokeinu velokei avoseinu (duchan replacement) on fast days during mincha when mincha is davened early in the day. the rama and mishana brura explicitly follow the mechaber not to say it yet everyone does. why?
That is incorrect. They do not explicitly say not to say it when davening early Minchah.
See Chazon Ish O.C. 20 for the reason:
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=58
Why is asking random people on Yeshiva World better than buying in a random store?
Get a recommendation from a trusted Rav or knowledgeable acquaintance.
The moral of the story is that squeak is the protector of the innocent.
IME, the yeshivos and Bais Yaakovs themselves do this.
If the other is referring to social engagements i.e. fraternizing with the opposite gender, wouldn’t that help solve the shiduch crisis?
I suppose, if you define “the shidduch crisis” as too little pritzus.
I am not watching or listening to the Super Bowl, let alone at a party, but why is it avodah zarah?
Drugs?
Or like a famous celebrity?