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You have no idea what I’ve seen or experienced, or what my assumptions are based on.
If you’d seen or experienced enough, you wouldn’t have to make things up. Your doing so makes you lose all credibility.
I can’t remember the last time I had one.
B) Since when is minhag brecht a din?
That’s true l’kula, but k’chumra, “minhag Yisroel Torah”. (Does anyone know a source for that?)
Your Slurpee’s on me.
Sorry you feel that way, DY. not stoking, not hating
Then you wouldn’t need to twist facts and make biased, unsubstantiated assumptions.
Sorry, I’m not buying it.
Jfem, thanks for proving my point.
If all you can come up with is a thread started to defend MO schools, with one negative post immediately followed by several rebuttals, I’m obviously right.
Feif, your being motzi shem ra on Satmar chassidim is despicable.
Satmar denounces any association with palestinians.
Yichusdik, I’ll come out and say it. You’re a fraud, and your trying to stoke sinah during these nine days is despicable.
one of the Rabbis in the shchuna came out publicly in favor of the violence.
Hirsch, that sonei Yisroel who is condemned by almost all chareidim?
He denies that there was any violence.
I am now in favor of the US government sending Jets to Egypt.
If it’s paid for, he can take a free one today and come back for the paid one tomorrow.
And those are the ones who will continue learning without subsidies.
I hope they do, but I don’t think it’ll happen b’derech hateva. And, it will become much more difficult in the future for people to commit to long term learning.
I’m not sure what else you want me to address, since you keep on harping on your point that it’s all about gelt, and although it’s true, it’s a disingenuous argument, because it’s not an end, it’s a means to a life of ruchniyus.
eMatter of historical fact: R’ Chaim Brisker zt”l was niftar in 1918.
His so, the Brisker Rav (R’ Velvel) lived in EY post – medinah.
So where is the outrage for the rampant criticism of communities that are NOT charedi in the Coffee Room?
I must have missed all the threads blasting the frum communities in Teaneck, Elizabeth, Hillcrest, etc.
Jfem, once again: I am not criticizing his or any community. I am criticizing him for criticizing a community which he now admits to only be speculating about.
We need achdut now. I wish it would be possible for us to stand together be yahad: shtreimels, platchige biberhats, srugies, fedoras, black suede, etc.
I totally agree.
Why can’t Jews agree to disagree, say elu ve elu, and move on?
Not everything is eilu v’eilu.
Will HKBH care at 120 if you ate from Triangle K or Badatz?
Yes.
Jfem, apples and oranges. You can’t compare,criticism of a community to criticism of hashkafos.
Anyhow, my main point was that yichusdik claims (or seems to) that he understands the dynamics of the MS community, and I’m very skeptical that he really does.
Broiled salmon:
1) Take a salmon steak or a piece of filleted salmon.
2) Add lemon juice and garlic powder
3) Broil
It’s a good thing, yichusdik, that your community has no problems or issues, allowing you the time to do lots of research (by way of posting on YWN and seeing the responses) and become quite the expert on other communities.
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Most b’nei Torah in E.Y. (according to relatives I’ve spoken to) don’t live at a much higher standard than that.
the Chareidim aren’t really so insistent on daas Torah as they claim to be.
Again, generalizing. No, not “the Charedim”, just those alleged criminals.
And I should clarify. I don’t “blame” anyone for this outrage who either (a) didn’t perpetrate it or (b) didn’t incite it or (c) didn’t create an environment where his followers would see it as an OK or even positive thing to do. (Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” comes to mind, for those of you who know your English history).
The implication obviously being that the “manhigim” are guilty of one of the above.
I think you should just come out and name who you think the guilty “manhigim” are.
I wonder if the poster Apushutayid would agree that this applies to this discussion as well.
GAW, yes, an all expense paid trip to MS in an IDF uniform. 🙂
Seriously, though, I am disturbed that the possibility of a large decrease in talmud Torah doesn’t see to bother you.
I think “chalmis” is short for “Yerushalmis”.
the OP’s point was that Charedim are utterly devoted to their rabbonim and will follow any directive without question
He must have also meant that we can also deduce that any action done by a chareidi is with the rabbonim’s consent.
We must conclude, then, that the same rabbonim who must have told that soldier to enlist, and to enter MS in uniform, must have been the ones who told these guys to beat him up.
Yichusdik, it wasn’t a diyuk, it was a misapplication. That’s one. Any more?
GAW, cute.
Feif, what makes you think they’re sitting in yeshivah?
I count at least four unsubstantiated assumptions or misapplied concepts in the OP. Who can name them and/or find even more?
Present day hatred of Zionism is not going to flip a single Jew from non observance to observance.
Is that what we base our hashkafos on, or do we base them on the truth?
Lc, how does the shmadding of the reform somehow justify that of the zionists?
<em<actual real live lashon hara
Probably motzi Shem ra, actually. Even if the facts are true, the negative slant on what seems to me to be perfectly legal is wrong.
I think we should take a straw poll. (That one’s for Goq.)
popa- again- do you agree with the statement that israeli soldeirs who died in war to defend the medina and its inhabitants-including chareidim- are “pigul” if they don’t have the right “kavonoh”? such a statememt is normal?
You’re not denying that you hate chareidim, you’re trying to justify it?
The fact that you wear a chareidi costume doesn’t change anything.
There can be an ?D for a few reasons. It could very well be that the item is parve, or made on milchig keilim, but it’s also possible that the milchig ingredient is unlisted, or unfamiliar to the consumer. I don’t think one should assume it’s not milchig without first asking the ?.
Yes actual tsnius is important, but everyone is in charge of their own lives… and what they do is between them an Hashem.
What people do does affect others, especially in the area of tznius.
There are variables, but the baseline is to be meikil for a d’rabbonon and machmir for a d’Oraisa.
Was it open this year? I would think the women who need it and deserve it might not have the time and money for it.
The term when used in psak is, “b’shel Torah haloch achar hamachmir”. Gemora A”Z 7b, Ramba”m Mamrim 1:5.
she said that… the management is great>
I believe she moved out before my friend moved in
Management probably read the review and started giving better service.
Had you started a thread to ask not to bump it, maybe I would have noticed, and bumped it.
whether Baitza 2B (and many other places),Pesochim 74B,
Those are not rayos, as discussed (in fact Beitzo 2b indicates the opposite).
the klal that in sefeikos we go lekuloh (certainly in a miderabbonon)
Now, we’re getting somewhere. That’s a legit rule, but we must be cautious not to apply it where the poskim don’t. Your implication that it might apply to a d’Oraiso as well is ridiculous, though. You must know the rule that “safek d’Oraisa l’chumra”, but you seem to ignore that one. (That one has its exceptions as well.)
How am I now changing the subject?
We were discussing paskening l’kula or l’chumra and you brought in keeping a chumra. As Toi pointed out, they’re not the same.
I don’t think you started a thread for it.
I respect everyone who held themselves in from bumping this thread, just because our Popa bar requested so.
So do I.
ROB, we’ve been through this before.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/kosher-subway/page/4#post-206493
You are welocme to continue in your illusion that halocho requires chumros.
You’re changing topic now? We weren’t talking about chumros.
And please, check Pesochim 74B (that neither of you mentions)
I did, and I addressed your erroneous point.
We argues aveilus already. The fact that there needs to be a rule specifically about aveilus is proof that we don’t have such a rule in general.
It doesn’t say “kula odif”. It says “koach d’heteira odif”. As Sam points out (it’s really Rash”i), it means you need to be more certain to be meikil, so the meikil perforce is confident in his psak.
SuperGlue
As I was saying…