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Is it macrobiotic?
Any game which normally entails writing (e.g. Scrabble) might be problematic; ask a shailah.
Wolf, I thought you would point out that Shabbos in the spring is the same length as in the fall.
Talmud, how about chess?
I think every tzarah that shouldn’t come upon us is a z’chus, but we still refer to “g’zeiros raos” and daven that we shouldn’t have yissurim.
Are college graduates easier or harder to brainwash?
Easier than college students, harder than BY students.
CAD, good point, but I assume that some colds, if the sufferer wasn’t neglectful of their health, are indeed b’ydei shomayim (and I was going with T613’s example).
Thanks, Sam.
Divorced women are generally excellent employees who can spend more time with students then others.
I would sooner hear that argument made for childless employees than divorced ones.
Interjection, that’s exactly what I was driving at.
Talmud, IIRC, charatah on a mitzvah also cancels it (I don’t recall that it turns it into an aveirah, though).
It may prevent a worse calamity, but the cold itself is unpleasant and was not necessary for the result – ???? ?????? ?????. I would call it a “bad” gezeirah, yet still thank Hashem for it.
Even if this is true, we would need to hear the school’s side (and I doubt it’s true).
There is an ultimate truth – the Torah. I think we need to distinguish between ideas which are within a Torah framework (eilu v’eilu) and those which are not.
There’s no guarantee that one will choose the logical, truthful idea over the the false idea which is either presented better or more appealling to the person’s bias.
T613,
You should have started a new thread to respond. It would’ve made it easier to find.
The cold is still a gezeirah. Hashem could have arranged for you to keep your job without a cold.
Sorry for interrupting again.
Decree
but you cannot change a good one to a bad one.
Are you sure you’re talking about a gezeirah, not a n’vuah?
Well, I found the story based on the thread title, so there was another point as well.
Thus is stated.
HaLeiVi, GIYF.
Yitayningwut, depending on what “da mah shetashiv” means, it may not be out obligation to argue at all.
Besides, pba made a pretty decent argument for censorship. If your IHNYRP can’t understand that there are other convincing factors besides logic, maybe he’s not so IH.
So what you’re saying is that it’s not pragmatic to keep the halacha regarding this.
I don’t care, I’ll keep the halacha anyways. If b’derech hateva, that means that I have fewer tools with which to do kiruv, so be it. If He made the rules, I’ll leave it up to Him to take care of His children where the amount of hishtadlus I can do is limited.
Not going to BJJ: bad for shidduchim.
Wanting macrobiotic food: bad for shidduchim.
14 years old: good for shidduchim.
It depends, I guess, on what the topic is. Certain ideas are assur to listen to.
Brainwashing is when the convincing becomes subliminal.
Do you mean like, for example, constantly singing Torah Tzivah Lanu Moshe to an infant?
Gamanit , under this username.
Mdd, I’m in full agreement with you here, but can you please spare us the bold? It makes it seem like you need to shout to be heard, and in reality (in this case), your words speak for themselves.
DY: In all fairness, I believe what ROB is saying is that the quantity of learning was greater, even if the number of full time learners was not
If he would argue that way, I would accuse him of using the same type of “pure sophistry” which he attributed to mdd.
I know it’s a mathematical possibility, which is why I used the term “difficult” rather than “impossible” (to fathom).
I am a proponent of the age gap theory, but I don’t think it’s the only issue. There are fewer older single boys than girls, but there are still plenty of older boys, and increased efforts to match singles can help.
Also, some have claimed that the 22, 23, 24, & 25 test old boys all want the same 19-20 year old girls. If that’s true, then more effective shadchanus should get the boys married younger, thus reducing the age gap.
ZD, How could things have been worse than the holocaust other than every jew wiped out.
You assume that there was enough talmud Torah to protect, yet it didn’t. You too are guilty of denying the words of Chaza”l, and making up facts to bolster your position.
ROB, in other discussions, you claimed that kollel en masse is a new innovation.
I am sure you know that throughout the centuries, wealthy jews always took as their sons-in law talmidei chachomim and helped them for years to study. (until they got a position, by the way). What people object to today is the blanket acceptance that everone should learn in a kollel “le-olam vo-ed”. THAT- for sure- was never the case and that, for sure, will bankrupt us. Take selected individuals- help them for a number of years and to that, no one would object.
(other places as well, IIRC)
Now you claim that there was more learning then than now (which would be difficult to fathom if so many fewer people were learning full time).
Your facts seem to change depending on the argument.
ROB, you do realize that your position is against Chaza”l, don’t you? And then you invented history to prove your point.
so I threw it out
That’s okay, they were probably ??? ???? ????? ????. 😉
Popa, their job is to make sure the products they certify are indeed kosher. If they don’t promptly publicize which ones are okay even without a printed symbol, they’re not necessarily doing themselves or the Boston Beer Co. any favors, but that’s their business.
Yeshivah world should not become not your mora dasrah.
Welcome, Yosef. That disclaimer has been oft repeated here, but a reminder can’t hurt.
Without taking halachah l’maaseh, many of us do enjoy and gain from the discussion.
Avi K.,
You probably do think that way. It’s a product of your negative view of Chareidim, but divorced from reality.
Rabbi Perfect, Veltz was being facetious.
anyone who goes to Chareidi neighborhoods (outside) and public libraries during seder hours knows that many of those registered are not killing themselves in the tent of Tora.
What do you think you’ll find in the Beis Midrash?
147, Torah Sheba’al Peh.
VM, the whole world suffers from low self esteem, the frum just don’t mask it with gaavah as much.
At least your brain will be washed before you donate it. (That’s about all I could make out from your last post).
Only goyim wear their tzitzis tucked in.
Nah, goyim wear the ones that drag on the floor, with techeiles.
So you think Bais Yaakov likes to cultivate low self esteem? That’s ludicrous.
So it seems that your complaint isn’t against the “system”, it’s against a few insensitive individuals.
Gamanit: ?
In other words, popa wiggled out of it very nicely.
Aha. That’s what you meant by brainwashing?
The terrorists are rashaim, period.
They are indeed reshaim. There are reshaim who seek to destroy us in every generation – ??? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ????????. How unsuccessful they are is related to our zechuyos. You can scrap the “period”.
I don’t like the OP’s seeming attitude of “I told you so”, and I don’t know that we can point at any particular tragedy and blame it on the plans of the Jewish reshaim’s plans, but I am scared for the security of the inhabitants of the Holy Land, and the rest of the world’s Yidden as well, with the decreased zechuyos.
Vogue, that was vague.
‘???? ????? ??? ?’ ???? ?
Yanki613, yes, that’s why it’s only towards the mikveh.
GAW,
My relative in the “Five Towns” tells me that housing in Far Rockaway proper is significantly more expensive than Lawrence. Something to do with Real Estate taxes, and the more “Yeshivish” crowd wanting to live in Far Rockaway, driving the prices up.
It’s true that Far Rockaway is more a desired location for the “Yeshivish” crowd than Lawrence, but the rest is not true AFAIK.
Crisis, that’s why when going towards the mikvah, one does not cover oneself.
Truthsharer, just because it may make some sense to connect them doesn’t mean they’re the same. Also, those who put their payos behind their ears are not hiding them. They are still visible.