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This is for ICOT (but anyone can feel free to give a shot at it).
You buy an 8-pack of 20oz. soda. The package says that 1 in 12 wins a free 20oz. soda- check under the cap to see if you win.
What are the chances of exactly three of the caps winning?
Ben Torah-
I respectfully ask if you can please keep the posts shorter and to the point, I had a hard time following it.
After quoting my post you (bluntly) said “Wrong”. Was that referring to the whole post or just part of it? I know it’s just my opinion (and I’m not trying to push it as fact) but I’d be surprised if you don’t agree with most of it.
It all depends on where the money comes from. If his parents are supporting him or if his wife is supporting him then yes it is a 100% legitimate form of income.
I hope you agree with this, I can’t imagine why anyone would have a problem.
If the money is coming from other sources, which is beyond the scope of this thread, then no, it is not a legitimate source of income.
I’m apologize for being purposely vague over here, I was hoping that other would realize I was referring to fraud with out explicitly spelling it out.
The difference between being a baseball player and being supported by your fans and learning in Kollel and being supported by the community is that fans decide based on ones performance if they want to pay to watch you play. It’s totally their decision.
Again, over here, I was being vague. The “community support” that I was referring to was in the form of extra tuition and the likes. You’ll probably agree that this form of “payment” is forced regardless of whether or not one “employs” the Kollel fellow. (The reason I chose to be vague was that I didn’t want other posters with different agendas to hijack this thread.)
Of course I agree that if one has a relationship with another where the agreement is that one supports the other in Kollel then it is between the two of them and no one else’s business.
You deserve credit though for the comparison although I don’t like the way it skews the importance of learning verses playing professional sports (if you were to compare their salaries).
(Sorry if I just violated what I asked you not to do.)
Ben Torah-
Learning in Kollel is 100% a legitimate parnasa. If I become a baseball player and I have people pay to watch me play ball, that’s OK, but if I become a scholar and have people pay me to learn – that’s not?? If I got a job in a think-tank thinking of stuff all day, that’s wonderful – but if I get a job in Kollel thinking of Chidushei Torah that’s not?? Why should learning be any less?
It all depends on where the money comes from. If his parents are supporting him or if his wife is supporting him then yes it is a 100% legitimate form of income. If the money is coming from other sources, which is beyond the scope of this thread, then no, it is not a legitimate source of income.
The difference between being a baseball player and being supported by your fans and learning in Kollel and being supported by the community is that fans decide based on ones performance if they want to pay to watch you play. It’s totally their decision.
squeak-
I’m glad you got a good laugh at that. I owed you two laughs after the red stapler comment (one for me, one for my wife).
I guess I still owe you one.
Squeak-
If you need to learn how to write a link in HTML Moderator-80 offered to show how to. Click here.
Today we’re getting a visit from the Bobs,
Consultants who wish to slash jobs,
But I have people skills,
and lots of bills,
What a bunch of snobs!
Can you make a mark on the jug?
The fax machine next to us always jammed
and made noises we couldn’t stand
we ripped off the thing
and each took a swing
and two co-workers were canned.
For those of you who didn’t remember- I was trying to replay the conversation from when the question was first asked.
Click here.
I didn’t say to get rid of it, I said to disregard it. (Keep it there but move it when you rotate the rest of the word around the y-axis.)
Same thing.
Disregarding the first letter- the word is a palindrome.
SJSinNYC
I couldn’t agree more, I was just explaining why it’s easier said than done.
BP Totty-
I’m still in shock at how close I came to meeting you and your family on the ferry last week. I think we also took the 2:30 ferry back. I would have loved to introduce you to my wife and kids, I’m sure they would have gotten a kick out of you. (I’m sure you must be more interesting than a houseplant.)
Well anyway, I didn’t know where to post this so I guess I’ll put it here since it happened on the ferry.
There was this really cute British couple there with their two kids, the kind of family you’d love to have over for supper. (No, it wasn’t their humour that gave it away, it was their accent.)
The wife asks me if I’m a native and if so can she have permission to ask me a question. I respond in the affirmative to both.
Pointing to the Brooklyn Bridge, she asked if it was built by England. I answered that it was designed by a German named John Roebling but built by Americans, possibly immigrants but not by the English per se.
“Wasn’t that the bridge that was built in England and sent here by boat in pieces?”
At this point her husband interrupted and said, “Sweetie, you’re mixing up the Brooklyn Bridge with the Statue of Liberty and England with France!”
“But Honey”, she countered, “wasn’t there a bridge built in England?”
“Yes Sweetie, it’s called London Bridge, but it’s in London, not New York.”
“But Honey, didn’t we give one to New York as a present?”
“Sweetie, please stop, you embarrass me every time you open your mouth.”
(They were both giggling at the end and she still insisted that one of the bridges was a gift from England delivered here by boat and assembled.)
Sacrilege-
Same here, we brought in those old film strips (without sound) as the bulb in the projector blew out and there aren’t replacements anymore.
They did a great job but it can be very expensive if you have hours and hours of family videos.
But if you are going to do it I reccomend Reel to Real.
SJSinNYC-
You can’t help someone unless they are willing to be helped.
Trust me.
That’s why in a different thread regarding what kind of Chesed Organizations would I like to see I suggested an organization that helps people help themselves. Expanding on that it should also teach people how to receive help when they do need it.
aries2756-
I was a little naive when my oldest started kindergarten and I assumed that the tuition contract included everything. On the first day of school she brought home a letter saying that we had to pay $50 or so for trips throughout the year. When they actually went on the trips we had to send in money for the trips as well.
When it came time for PTA the letter said to bring your checkbook, which I (being naive) assumed was for a bake sale or something. The school had a desk set up right when you walk in where they wanted $50 from us. The person explained that $15 is for a Chanukah present for the teacher and $35 is for PTA dues. When I asked what “PTA dues” are she explained that it’s for when they go on trips so that they don’t have to collect for each individual trip.
Later that night she stopped by our house to have a little talk. She explained that $15 goes towards the teachers gift, but since more than 2/3 of the fees aren’t paid, those who do pay are slapped with the mysterious $35 fee. This clearly shows how a small amount can quickly spiral out of control as the amount gets higher and higher as less and less people pay.
(By the way, I remember from my years as a teacher how important it is for a teacher to feel appreciated and I had no problem paying the extra amount once I found out what it really went for. I’m not getting into what is right and wrong, I’m just saying what happens. We also got the teacher a more expensive gift on our own because we felt she did a great job and wanted to show our appreciation.)
Now oomis1105 if you can end the debate
about bringing ===>Purses on a Date<===
between me and Squeak
we’re up the creek
Thanks, that would be grrreeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaat!
oomis1105- I was just trying to rhyme
by recalling a post not seen in a long ===>time<===,
I thought it would fly
So I gave it a try
but please forgive me for my crime.
Sorry Blinky, I didn’t realize that there were rules about the length of the lines. Let me try one again:
oomis1105 is thrilled to go on the date,
The Shadchan promised that the guy is great,
But the guy’s a math wizard,
Who’s proud of his lizard,
oomis1105 begins to plan her great escape.
I hate rhyming, oh how it hurts,
I’d rather be out playing sports,
my supervisor is back from getting juice,
and is running around on the loose,
got to get back to the TPS reports.
Y.W. Editor-
Thanks for posting that, I didn’t think they had any followers other than themselves.
Also I’m sure you weren’t trying to hurt anyone but I’ve heard that parents of special children take serious offence at the “r” word being used to describe others. Would you be able to choose a different word?
oomis1105 is thrilled to go on the date,
The Shadchan promised that the guy is great,
As it turns out the guys is a math wizard,
Who wants to introduce her to his pet lizard,
oomis1105 begins to plan her great escape.
blinky-
I can’t compete with the ones from Squeak.
Sorry 🙁
I can only try
I’d sooner be concerned about the binomial distribution. The other one, generally speaking, requires calculus.
oomis1105-
Who ever invented the gun was trying to open a can of worms by naming a major component with something that rhymes with “shvigger”.
When we first got married we used to try to go the same places we went on dates and recreate our dates- from memory. It was lots of fun trying to remember the topics that came up as we were by whatever landmark. Being that we were married already we were able to tell each other what was really going through our minds.
On the fourth anniversary of our first date I came home from work a little early, helped my wife clean up and suggested that we go for a walk with the kids since it was early. (She had no idea what the date was.)
I made sure to somehow end up in one of the spots we walked by on our first date. When we were at that spot my wife exclaimed “hey, don’t you remember when we were in this exact spot exactly four years ago?”.
“Sure I remember, I remember trying to imagine what we would look like four years later when we would come back with our three kids.”
“It’s a good thing you didn’t tell me what you were thinking”, my wife answered, “or we wouldn’t be here now”.
You don’t necessarily have to agree with someone to respect them. If you have certain standards (and honestly keep them) a less observant person will probably understand why they are able to eat in your house, but won’t be offended if you won’t eat by them. You’ll probably both agree that your kids are better off not marrying each other, but you’ll be there for each other by the respective weddings.
Squeak-
Stam Log is base 10.
(The only people who don’t know that are the people that don’t even know what e is.)
Squeak-
Sorry to be a stickler but:
Integral t-squared dt
from 1 to the cube root of 3
times the cosine
of three pi over 9
equals natural log of the cube root of e.
So let’s say I post something from the same IP address as one of the members of the host family- are you going to block one of our usernames?
oomis1105-
Squeak and I were having a debate about you. Can you head over to the Purses on Dates thread and resolve it?
Thanks
So how do the mods always know when one person is using two user names?
Only the single people perished, the couples survived?
I have a question for the mods-
The whole Sukkos I was afraid to post since we were by relatives and I was concerned that if one of the members of any of the host families has a YWN account the mods might see the same IP address and accuse me of having two accounts.
Is this a legitimate concern?
I can only try-
I would use the binomial distribution to solve this.
To win in 4 games the Phillies need to win 4 games in a row, with a .50 chance of winning each game the probability of winning 4 in a row is .5^4 = .0625. (You can also use the binomial distribution but that is overkill for this case.)
To win in 5 games the Phillies need to win exactly three out of the first four games and game number five. The probability is (4 nCr 3) * (.5^3) * (.5^1) * .5 = 4 * .5^5 = .125.
To win in 6 games the Phillies need to win exactly three out of the first five games and game number six. The probability is (5 nCr 3) * (.5^3) * (.5^2) * .5 = 10 * .5^6 = .15625.
To win in 7 games the Phillies need to win exactly three out of the first six games and game number seven. The probability is (6 nCr 3) * (.5^3) * (.5^3) * .5 = 20 * .5^7 = .15625 (as above).
P(Winning in 4 or 5 games) = .0625 + .125 = .1875 = 18.75%
P(Winning in 6 or 7 games) = .15625 + .15625 = .3125 = 31.25%
So there is a much better chance that they will win in 6 or 7 games.
Please take note that 18.75% + 31.25% = 50% since each team has an equal chance of winning.
Using Excel, copy this table to a spreadsheet, the “3” should be in Cell A1:
3 =BINOMDIST(3,A1,0.5,FALSE) =B1*0.5
4 =BINOMDIST(3,A2,0.5,FALSE) =B2*0.5
5 =BINOMDIST(3,A3,0.5,FALSE) =B3*0.5
6 =BINOMDIST(3,A4,0.5,FALSE) =B4*0.5If you’re not familiar with the binomial distribution please let me know.
(Can I suggest what type of soda to get.)
charliehall-
Thanks for the compliment, I’m honored to receive the title from a bio-stat professor.
Just out of curiosity- from all the things I’ve posted- why was it that last post that earned the compliment?
This happened with the girl I dated the longest besides my wife. Please don’t get the wrong impression- she wasn’t insecure, she just had a great sense of humor.
She was from OOT and I went to her for the first few dates. On the first date we had a picnic so I brought bagels but it took a half hour until we could find a place to wash. On the second date I noticed that she seemed to have a big pocketbook and it was bulging, I kept on eyeing it wondering if she had brought everything including the kitchen sink along.
Eventually she noticed that I was looking at her pocketbook so she opened it, took out a large container of cookies and said “here, I made this for you for your long drive home.” It was so thoughtful and kind of her, but I got hungry and ate them all during the date. (Well not all, I did share them with her.)
OK, getting to the main part- a few dates later she told me that she was coming in to NY for the weekend and asked if we should go out in NY.
So I pick her up for the date and notice that she doesn’t have a pocketbook and I jokingly mentioned it. “Oh no, I can’t believe I forgot it, do you mind taking me back to my cousins so I can get it? Unless you can commit to not leaving me stranded no matter how the date goes.” I was laughing so hard since I wasn’t expecting that.
On the next date I was giving her a test to see if she remembered all the landmarks I pointed out on our previous date. At one point I asked her if she recognized where we were and she answered “oh, you’re leaving me here- good thing I brought my pocketbook this time.” We both had a good laugh.
Back in the days when I was teaching I kept on getting set up with the sister of one of my students. My parents and I always nixed the idea.
One day this student was giving me a hard time and I threatened to call his parents. He just laughed in my face and said, “you’re just hoping that my sister answers the phone cause that’s the only way you’ll ever get to hear her voice”.
(No, I did not call his parents.)
I can only try-
Do you want a hint or do you want the answer?
A friend once relied on his date to bring her purse and made sure she had it when he picked her up.
“Well, just got my permit and I need someone with a valid license to be next to me.”
(They got married.)
I think she didn’t even invite that guy in for coffee after the date.
Thanks Squeak, I needed that laugh!
I know which post you’re referring to I was curious to know if it was the same guy but a different date.
oomis1105-
Was that the actuary guy?
BP Totty-
I took my wife and kids for a ride on the ferry this past Sunday and pointed out that building to my wife- she thought it was a very elegant building.
Are you moving in?
frumeyid-
I disagree with you on this.
Had he been paying $60 for the lesson he would have made sure to get his moneys worth. Since he wasn’t paying he felt my time was free. He went in with the attitude that if he gets something out of it then great- if not- no big loss.
I never had a shidduch resume (I never even heard of one until I found my wife’s after we got married), but I did find it pathetic that some girls refused to go out with me because of the reputation one of the yeshivas I attended had gotten due to an incident that happened years after I left.
At first it was depressing until I realized that if they say “no” because of that then they’re not the kind of person I want to marry.
In my opinion here’s the difference between helping someone and being used by someone-
If you would be getting paid the going rate for your services would the person have acted the same way.
Here’s an example that happened recently-
Two people called me and asked for help with their Regents/ Finals.
I gave them both an hour and told them beforehand to look over the material and bring any questions they have at that time.
Person one comes with a list of questions, watches how I solve the problems, took notes for future review and organized all my papers and his before he left.
Person two comes in and starts doing problems until he gets stuck, asks me how to do it, says it’s too hard, he’s giving up since there’s no way he’ll pass anyway. Doesn’t bother to take the notes where I showed how to do the problem since he’ll be repeating the course over the summer.
Person two was using me, had he been paying the going rate of $60 to $80 per hour (or whatever it is), he would have made it is business to take it more seriously. Person one, on the other hand, I was very happy to help out.
(I’m not sure how this helps the OP but I think it answers the question of how to tell the difference between being used and doing a favor.)
smartcookie-
Maybe after reading all my posts she’s proud that she went out with me?