Zushy,

you have raised a few points, and they are definitely worth addressing

RISING LEVEL OF DRY EARTH – you are definitely right that the surface of many areas has risen.
nonetheless, you are talking about a relatively small amount – the roman remains of londonium is maybe a few meters under current levels. The Cardo in Yerushalyim is also only a couple of metres – maybe three or four under the present street
What you are saying – that decaying life raised the levels – definitely sounds possible, but it does not significantly effect the rest of the equation, as you will see.

WHY DID THE SEA NOT FLOOD ANCIENT CITIES – Your question as to why the sea did not flood ancient cities is very limited.
Even according to the greatest doomsday predictions, not all of London will be flooded in forty years. Golders Green is way way above sea level – the highest point in London is at the end of Golders Green Road …….. the “worry” and hyberbole is about the East London – Docklands area, which are low lying, and that’s why they built the Thames Barrier.
I don’t know about the Israeli coastal plain, or the US East coast, but the entire Jordan Valley in E”Y, – including Beit She’an, Arad, the entire Yam Hamelach area, is BELOW sea level. nonetheless it did not flood for a very simple reason – there is ground above sea level between the sea and this area, which the water cannot cross. Much of the English Midlands too are below sea level.

RISING SEA LEVEL – scientists claim sea level is rising. Unlike the level of dry land, sea level – and world temperature – always fluctuate, so this is much more debatable. nonetheless they claim sea levels are rising and the amount vary between 2mm a year to a full centimetre. [If sea levels rise at more than a centimetre for forty years, they will eventually flood the East London area.]
The normal reason given for sea levels rising is melting glaciers, which in turn is blamed on global warming, which is then blamed on carbon emissions etc …
You are suggesting that the sea has always risen – definitely possible – but bear in mind that while we have remains of cities, burial sites, and even Roman roads a few metres underground, as of yet no one has proven prior sea levels.
When I was in Grammar School, with my school tie, we were taught an additional theory for rising sea levels. Mother Earth absorbs water, when it rains only the layoff will reach the wider rivers and sea. When one paves over massive areas – think Milton Keynes or Kiryat Sefer and Beitar – many many square kilometres of rainwater end up in the river and sea. This is turn could CAUSE glaciers to melt, rather than be a result. [I don’t know if scientists still believe this, but I was taught this in PH grammar school by Mr. C. around the year 2000.]

RISING TEMPERATURE – you have failed to address in your theory rising temperature. Has temperature always risen and the glaciers therefore always melted, – even before carbon emissions – just Earth level rose alongside, or did Earth level and sea level rise independent of temperatures,

CHAZAL – Chazal, Novi, Gemoro make many references to Hashem preventing the waves overtaking the dry land etc … Additionally R’ Yehoshua says that rain comes form the sky – perhaps it goes back somehow? – The gemoro in Brachos says that when Hashem cries the tears fall in the ocean and form an earthquake ….
I do not pretend to understand these sugyas on any level, but they definitely have bearing on your subject.

לכבוד הגאון וכל חברייא קדישא

Every subject is open for discussion, and good respectful discussion is very constructive, nonetheless all discuusions should take place within parameters of דרך ארץ and מענטשליכקייט. this is especially true when discussing the opinions f גדולי ומאורי הדור שליט”א.
הזהרו בגחלתן.

I have already written that the מחבר clearly says ששים רבוא עוברים בו בכל יום if one understands this כפשוטו then you are obviously right there is only one שאךה is there 600k daily or not. As the ט”ז and מג”א both agree that אין למחות ביד המקילין then obviously virtually every eiruv is kosher.

Nonetheless, there is a suggestion – primarily by הגאון ר’ משה פיינשטיין about brooklyn and the מנחת יצחק about London, to say that the מחבר does not refer too a literal 600k every day, rather, basically, the מחבר means a street which is מיועד for 600 k. Exactly what each pisek held, and exactly how one is קןבע the מציאות can be debated, and it remains הררים התלוים בשערה.

The עדה החרדית ערוב בירושלים עיה”ק excludes כביש המנהרות – 9 it also excludes כניסה לעיר and a couple of other roads.
as far as I understand, this effectively means that הגאונים ר’ יצחק טוביה וויס ור’ משה שטרנבוך שיח’ are excepting the שיטה of the מנחת יצחק and therefore make a point to exclude these roads. [ As a matter of interest Rabbi Weiis , Rabbi meir bransdorfer זצ”ל, abd Rabbi Roberts all consider themselves תלמידים of הגאון ר’ חנוך העניך פאדווא who also expressed opposition – at least verbally -for the London eiruv. ] על כל פנים this is the basic of the eida hachareidis who are clearly differentiating between London and yerushalayim.
The same applies in בני ברק the גאונים ר’ שמואל וואזנער זצ”ל and יבלח”ט ר’ ניסים קרליץ לרפו”ש have excluded כביש 4 from the eiruv, again R’ Chayim wosner has said that one may not carry in GG.

There is another big heter for roads, and that is by making אינו מפולש. the דברי מלכיאל clearly writes that a road that bends is not a רה”ר , police barriers לכאורה are at least equal.

BTW, in case you guys are convinced that I am a card carrying anti eiruv member, I left golders green twenty years ago. When I was there no one walked around wearing a tallis, yidden joined in the VE day celebrations, Rabbi Jakovitz was chief rabbi, and corporal punishment – including shoe confiscation – was still used in all schools.

OOH, Sorry,

when I was a kid our worst punishment was being sent home unshod – and no one had Shabbos hoses in those abcient days – our worst food was having soap put in our mouths, …..

lichvoid haGa’on shlit”a vechol chevrayo kadishat hodayn

The question concerning the difference between GG and yerusholayim is very very valid, especially as the BaDatz Eida hachareidis and haGaon r; Chayim wosner shlit”a clearly spoke out against the GG eiruv despite the eiruvin in their pwn towns.

1) R’ meir Rosner has made his feelings clear that one may not carry on most the main roads in yerushalayim, including recently the sheaf Chayim road. As such one is limited to the loacal eiruvin, I think many are makpid not to carry on Shmuel hanovi or Bar ilan etc.

2) Even the eida hachareidis eiruv excludes kvish one, kvish nine [except for the tunnel to ramat shlomo] etc… the other rads have police barriers in place on Shabbos, as such at least on Shabbos they are very different and possibly this effects their denim even when the barriers are not in place. The same applies to b’nei b’rak, there are barriers by the coca cola bridge on kahaneman and in other places.

3) as far as I heard R’ ehrentrau shlit”a said that even with a tzuras hapesach at Spaniards inn he agrees that it is not a rambam eiruv.

4) R’ Yosef Babad – belzer dayan of Stamford hiil has said that it is unfair to compare townhouses with front and backyards to e”y where people live in 50 or 70 sq mr with a large number of children, many windowless machsanim, and many do not use electricity on Shabbos. as such he has said that the leniencies in place in e”y cannot be used in London.

5) Rabbi Roberts says that r’ shimon eider told him that the a406 and a1 are undoubtedly reshuyois harabbim, and cannot be compared to Israeli roads. he has expressed himself extensively on the subject, and repeatedly said that there are questions of de’oiraysa involved.

I have a reason that the טלית represents אש שחורה על גבי אש לבנה

The belzer chassidim definitely wear a blueish stripe, however most of the world wears black – including many groups who were not at all careful to distance themselves from the ציונים

the problem is not limited to a foreung language.

My kids came home with “the spirit of hashem was hoovering over the water,” convinced that hashem was hoovering somewhere, or more recently “staff in their hands, their loins girded” with zero understanding of the words. Chumahs has to be taught using WORDS children understand

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There was a headline on matzav about the new release on Jan 6. You might be able to get ore info there.

[just go on and click on torah world, and it will come up]

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Why don’t you try and reach some of his talmidim? There’s no shortage in lakewood.

You can always R’ Swerdoff of pattersn, or R’ aw Brog from peakskill, i thik that they both keep up a kesher with him.

Hatzlocha

Not sure why it isn’t fair, but what happens if he reads your posts?

Haven’t checked in here for a long time but Hey, thye told me that my kid’s school was up for debate.

Zushy, i’m behind you. One punishment doesn’t define a school as messed up. Hefkeirus does.

Anyway, the elemantary school seems to have produced a number of yeshiva world posters over time – so it must have been alright.

Zelig means to laugh, and therefore often goes with either yitzchok[laughing] or Osher [fortunate]

My parents didn’t bring us up on chinuch salaries, but it simply wasn’t something regularly done in london at the time to buy an extra pair of shpes fpr shabbos.

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I was once asked to help out towards paying tickets for a yungerman in e”y to return to england for pesach, and i asked someone, and i was told to give him.

Pleased to meet you