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November 19, 2017 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm in reply to: Why is trump not dealing with terrorism at all???? #1405972HaLeiViParticipant
Doing something, as in stopping their entry? Excellent question.
HaLeiViParticipantWhat this means is that the Creator facilitated women’s tears. They were made to cry easier. The same Creator made men. I think He knew what He was doing. My guess.
HaLeiViParticipantSome passages in the MN read like apologetic excuses. He writes about certain unpopular ideas, mentioned by a variety of Chachomim, that they are Daas Yachid although you don’t find any Amorah actually arguing the idea.
This shows us in which vein it is written.
So, it is an interesting Sefer. I’ve read parts of it but not all, I think. But it is not supposed to be the basis of our outlook of what the Torah is. Nor do the philosophical proofs help a non-philosophically oriented generation come to the same conclusion.
HaLeiViParticipantAnd yet, the Ramban, Rashba, Ritva, Rosh and many others did not want people, especially young inexperienced people, to learn it.
The complaints aren’t about the direct Greek quotations. They are about his Taamei Hamitzvos (which don’t show up in the Yad), his explanation of the Merkava, and the implied dependence on the Torah being agreeable to philosophy.
Some have said it is a cloaked Sefer (as he writes himself), which masks even Kabalistic ideas. The Kamarna writes that only someone with an open an holy mind can learn it. Some have said to own but not read it.
It was a great composition to keep hold of a generation and culture that cared very much about certain assumptions and couldn’t accept certain other ideas. Some of these issues are outdated. For example, in a time such as ours in which concepts of machines looking, hearing, knowing, and wanting are common everyday language, we don’t need a whole thesis explaining הנוטע אוזן הלא ישמע. And yet, you still hear people feeling very educated for understanding this.
Why should we instate learning apologetics of a thousand years ago? And yes, our Yeshivos learn Mussar. Some learn Chassidishe Sefarim, and some even learn Sifrei Machshavah. Usually it’s up to the individual.
HaLeiViParticipantThe tenets of our belief were actually not debated at the time, even if you work very hard to dig up a specific outcast opinion and twist it further than intended.
What we accepted was his great work, the Yad, which is Torah-based. We did not accept the Moreh which is philosophy-based. In fact, he was careful to separate the twoand he even contradicts himself at times. There are small exceptions to this and guess what: those areas in the Yad that stem from philosophy are also rejected.
There is something very sickly about this fascinating of Apikursus. There are some places that constantly lecture about the borderline of acceptable belief and beyond, and build towers in the sky of obscure, anomalous shitos — whether or not the Mechaber actually meant to finalize it — dug up from the Sheimos bin and stretched passed capacity. These are of course added onto each other and there you have it: a Mekor for a brand new system.
HaLeiViParticipantBecause it was never accepted. The Rishonim we able to see past the Sefer and accept the Rambam. The Sefer itself was for the most part rejected. It was that way from his time until today.
November 2, 2017 10:19 am at 10:19 am in reply to: Is A Jew Permitted To Celebrate Halloween? #1394152HaLeiViParticipantHalloween is the only Chagga I keep. It’s so much fun sharing ghost stories.
HaLeiViParticipantWe kill way too many mice, but not enough terrorists.
October 24, 2017 3:23 am at 3:23 am in reply to: Were there 70 Versions of the Greek Septuagint? #1388842HaLeiViParticipantThe best place to learn Torah is from someone who learns it.
October 24, 2017 3:23 am at 3:23 am in reply to: Is it beged isha for a man to wear a ring 💍 #1388844HaLeiViParticipantIn Shabbos 62 it seems that he may.
HaLeiViParticipantSo we just deduced that there is no issue of Gittin, bias, bullying, and fights.
With some more great logic we can out-reason Shidduchim, poverty, ignorance, disease, and perhaps aging.
HaLeiViParticipantUse a Get Mekushar.
HaLeiViParticipantWhat about the Ohr Hachayim Hakadosh needs ‘answering’? Rav Saadya Gaon’s point was about being robbed, to which the Ohr Hachayim Hakadosh agrees (as he writes on ועשית עמדי חסד ואמת). The Gemara also mentions the idea that a Ganav gives Hashem more work in order to arrange to repay the victim the amount allotted to him on Rosh Hashanah.
As for murder, the Gemara in Chagiga says that even the Malach can at times kill without it being decreed. (Yes, I’m aware of Rabbeinu Chananel there.)
HaLeiViParticipantThis got far from the original topic. But anyhow we know that מחשבה טובה הקב”ה מצרפה למעשה ומחשבה רעה אין הקב”ה מצרפה למעשה. This seems to suggest that the outcome surely makes a difference.
Sure there is the idea that רחמנא ליבא בעי but that’s not all.
HaLeiViParticipantThe substance of all of creation is a constant, renewing command from HKBH. This is the underlying energy-matter of the universe.
Now, that is when we discuss יש itself. However, the term בריאה refers to inventing the concept of something, which is why it can refer to חושך even though in practice חושך wasn’t ‘built’ but rather left as the other side of the אור scale.
When we discuss an item we are discussing its form, its identifying qualities or personality. We don’t really pay attention to its makeup. Although my internal molecules change over within a given time it wouldn’t occur to you to consider me a ‘different’ person.
And so, the world was formed once and for all while the underlying substance does depend on a constant renewal.
My reference to electronics is that we are already used to the idea of character on a screen being referred to as an entity, all while we know good and well that its substance existence is constantly given forth by the local machine.
HaLeiViParticipantThink ‘form and matter’, and your questions melt away.
This should be self-understood in an age of digital realities.
Also, if this is how you understand his concept of מחדש בכל יום you have a much bigger problem than this Shabbos. We keep Shabbos as a confirmation that Hashem completed the creation in six days, and then it was complete.
HaLeiViParticipantbut what if you find the bum in your bedroom at 3:00 AM?
Then go to sleep somewhere else.
HaLeiViParticipantSo a ‘Lazy Bum’ is actually a good thing!
HaLeiViParticipantAny plan that includes intrusion of others is not on the table.
HaLeiViParticipantWhat they have is comics based on Jewish stories, some from the Talmud, others from much later.
HaLeiViParticipantSeems pretty easy too get all worked up about an issue you don’t have, and be all judgemental about it.
HaLeiViParticipantZahavasdad, why are you implying that learning less than a Yeshiva Bochur is less of a Baal Teshuva?
September 6, 2017 10:13 am at 10:13 am in reply to: Is global warming causing the shidduch crisis? 🌏🌡👫 #1356359HaLeiViParticipantIt’s the other way around, not being married means that the girls use their heat-emitting blow dryers much more often.
September 6, 2017 10:13 am at 10:13 am in reply to: Is “half kiruv” worse than the desease? #1356355HaLeiViParticipantI heard in the name of the Chazon Ish that since the truth is hard to behold, even living in a Frum neighborhood one can be a Tinok Shenishba. He was never really exposed to be able to ‘know’ the truth to the degree that you’d consider him one who recognizes his Creator and chose to turn away.
HaLeiViParticipantTevilas Ezra has nothing to do with Bias Shemesh. The Tuma is De’oraysa and lasts until Bias Shemesh. Ezra’s Takanah is besides that.
Although the strict Halachah seems to do away with the Takanah, many Geonim, Rishonim and some Acharonim have not taken it that way. The Shaalos Tshuvos Min Hashamayim even criticised the Yerushalmi on this.
Regardless of the Chiyuv or otherwise, it is widely considered a prerequisite to learning Toras Nistar.
HaLeiViParticipantThere never was an ‘Issur’ of Mayim She’uvim. There were two Takanos: going into Mayim She’uvim and pouring it. It wasn’t an Issur but rather it was Metamei.
But guess what: we are already Tamei.
The closest I’ve seen to an issue is the mention in Mishmeres Shalom of the Kodenaver, that some people refrain from bathing after the Mikva since it has the title of Tumah.
Also, on Erev Shabbos there is the Arizal’s concept of trying to retain the water and not drying it.
HaLeiViParticipantChadGadya, what are you saying? The sundial is not quartz based. It shows the sun’s angle. The sun starts at Netz and finishes at Shkia. The space in between, when divided by twelve, would be the hours. These are obviously not the same each day, since the day itself is not the same.
August 27, 2017 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm in reply to: Chareidi Extremists Protest On Shabbos Outside Home Of Store Owner…’ opinions? #1347892HaLeiViParticipantZahasdad, I hope you aren’t responding to thatcaljew.
HaLeiViParticipantapushatayid, indeed the modern mind had a hard time with the simanim. I’ve heard so many Drashos and lectures from inspirational speakers, who seemingly have a hard time believing that Chazal, and reinterpret the simanim as a mussar reminder or its a (once-a-year type of) Tefilla.
I think we’d get a lot further if, instead of changing things to match our world view, we would delve into understanding the big picture that Chazal are coming off.
HaLeiViParticipantTraditionally, Jewish people have refrained from mentioning those things that were big killers, or bad things in general. They’ve referred to ‘the Gezeira’, ‘the Milchama’ and the like.
This has its origin in the Gemara. We find a common reference to a disease of דבר אחר, ‘something else’, which is akin to ‘Yenne Machlah’.
Seemingly, the idea is so as not to give it even a toe-hold in our life.
August 22, 2017 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm in reply to: Here we go again with alleged theft of public funds #1344299HaLeiViParticipantWe act to these Avaryanim just like we do to our multitudes of Shabbos texters and drug addicts: we try to be accepting, non-judgmental, loving etc.
August 21, 2017 7:24 am at 7:24 am in reply to: Which CR Poster do you want to meet in real life? #1343273HaLeiViParticipantMidwesterner, did we ever meet?
August 15, 2017 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm in reply to: Anxiety, Bitachon, and Morons (Dah mah shetashiv l'moron) #1339595HaLeiViParticipantRY, that would be like someone who wears a life jacket his whole life. But don’t mock him because I’m case of a flash flood our could save his life.
In other words, even discussions about anxiety can become illogical.
August 15, 2017 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm in reply to: Anxiety, Bitachon, and Morons (Dah mah shetashiv l'moron) #1339593HaLeiViParticipantSo Popa The Great wrote ‘QED’ and he was right.
HaLeiViParticipantSqueak, and forever after you’ll keep Shabbos on Friday?
August 13, 2017 2:44 am at 2:44 am in reply to: Should We View Satmar Growth and Anti Israel Indoctrination as Concern #1337801HaLeiViParticipantPlease, calm down. Firstly, Satmar is not Neturei Karta. And not every Neturei Karta member goes to meet terrorists, either.
But mainly, you call it indoctrination but they call it Chinuch. We all pass our ideas to our children. If you don’t like my ideas that doesn’t make it indoctrination.
You won’t change them. They are following the great Satmar Rebbe ZYA and they won’t stop anytime soon. But, on your part, don’t overdo it either.
HaLeiViParticipantAccording to Tosafos Nida 16b, did Menashe have free will all his life?
HaLeiViParticipantCoffee, the dying Hebrews were unrelated to the miracle.
Joseph, in this case as well.But, was Chanukah a miracle?
HaLeiViParticipantI’ve used it on other networks but I don’t recall using it successfully on Optimum Wi-Fi. I even tried switching back and forth between my phone’s hotspot and Optimum. Through my phone it worked but not on Optimum.
HaLeiViParticipantAnd I think that’s dumb.
HaLeiViParticipantI find their pop-ups, or toast notifications, very annoying. You can’t move it to a different location or get rid of it any faster than it decides to stick around. At times there are multiple notifications and I can’t access those items on the tray our even seer the time.
I wrote to them but, as TAG has pointed out, they don’t care about this free try-out product and haven’t updated it in years.
I used to use openDNS but for some reason Optimum does not allow a custom dns. And worse, they deny it.
HaLeiViParticipant“I am just exploring what appears to me to be black and white…”
Exactly. Looking for black and white is a symptom of being very literal minded.
To you there are two choices, either literal in the fullest sense of the way we do practice it today or non-literal, and it is code words to be deciphered like a dream and has no relation to what it says.
A good look in classical Sefarim well show you that everyone takes it at face value, that the Avos kept the Mitzvos. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have these discussions by the Ramban down about why Yakov married two sisters.
However (I guess that’s a ‘qualifier’ word), being of a different form — since they had the licence to fulfill things to their own understanding — means that although the Maamar Chazal means exactly what it says it still might not mean what you picture.
The Medrash says that Avraham Avinu figured out the Mitzvos. We also learn that Noach had a Kabbalah of which animals are Tahor. No, this doesn’t mean he was a nice guy. It means what it says. And yet, they still didn’t keep Teffilin the way we do. Yes, they literally kept the Mitzvos, but not all of them were practiced the way it was spelled out later on.
If they figured out Teffilin that means they knew the reason for it. They can then choose to fulfill this idea in whatever way made sense in those times.
You seem to be fine with the understanding that it just means that they understood Hashem and followed His will. This means that you understand that there is a purpose to all the commandments, at least as a group, and they fulfilled that function. Now, take this one step further. There is a purpose to each commandment as well. They kept that, too.
Teffilin d’Morei Alma are very real, it doesn’t just mean Chazal found a cute way to describe the fact that Hashem loves us. But being very real doesn’t have to connote physicality. The same way we know Hashem has a Kisei, which is real and still not physical, we are told He has Teffilin, which are obviously not physical, but they are real and Moshe Rabbeinu was shown Kesher Shel Teffilin.
Not being physical does not mean it’s a Mashal.
If you can’t wrap your head around this it’s because you are too literal-minded.
HaLeiViParticipantUbiquitin, you had that reaction to my mentioning how the Bal Hatanya explains their form of Kiyum Hamitzvos. That is because you’d take nothing less than the simple first-impression understanding. But you do this in the name of not wanting to take the Midrashim literally.
This was well illustrated when I brought up Teffilin Demarei Alma (insert ‘non-literal’ for the benefit of our 13th century friends here) to illustrate that we find Teffilin being something much more than what you wrap around, and that what we are doing is a fulfillment of a certain concept — a concept that even relates to Hakadosh Baruch Hu. Your response to that was again to toss around literal or non-literal. Which means that the attitude towards such a Sugya, rather than to see what the Maharal or other Sefarim explain, is to say it’s not literal. But that doesn’t teach you what it is.
Now, as for the ‘Shomer Torah Umitzvos’ idea, which Torah and which Mitzvos? Does that just mean that he was Mishalech Lifnei Hashem? Well it already says that in the Pasuk. And, what does Afilu Eiruvei Tavshilin supposed to mean? Is this all really just an overly fancy way of telling us what we already know?
Can our conversations ever get past 13th century issues? It was a wonderful accomplishment of the Rambam to effectively dismiss the physical minded interpretations of the Torah and of Hashem. As we see, many of his writings reflect this battle. But, the battle was won. Let’s get on.
HaLeiViParticipantMy reference to Geonim Paskening based on reasons of Derabanans is in Kedushin 45b in Tosafos. As you can see there, Rishonim had an issue with that.
HaLeiViParticipantThe Baal Hatrumos has a Tshuva about Paskening through trains we learn in Aggadah. He mentions how although the Gemara says that a Bris is on the eighth day so that the parents are happy (Mide’oraysa at that point there is D’mei Tahara), obviously the day doesn’t change when this is not the case.
Interestingly, we do find some examples of the Taamim being invoked. The Shallos Tshuvos Min Shamayim has an answer that women make the Brachah on Shofar and Lulav since the reason for these Mitzvos apply to them as well.
There are examples of Geonim Paskening by a Derabanan based on the original motivation of the Takanah. I recall this happening by Nesu’ei Ketanah.
HaLeiViParticipantBack to the OP, when people say we shouldn’t try to understand the reason, that is as a response to doing things because of your understanding.
לכל תכלה ראיתי קץ, רחבה מצותך מאד.
Although obviously there is a reason for each Mitzvah, we don’t, and cannot, understand the full reason even for a relatively well-understood Mitzvah.Most of Torah Shel Baal Peh is about learning the exact classification of a Mitzvah and therefore how it applies. We can then draw an understanding built upon its Halachos.
And so, it is important to realize first and foremost that your motivation to act is because Hashem commanded you to do so. Then, on top of that, the more you understand about the Mitzvah accomplishes more.
But it is important never to think that the reason at hand is the reason. I know of a certain Tzaddik who preferred as a Baal Toke’ah someone who didn’t know the Kavanos of the Arizal. This way he can’t mess up.
So, think of it as a base, which is about being an Eved Hashem, and on top of that many understandings, meditations, and achievements.
HaLeiViParticipantThis is from the king of ‘not literal’:
Halevai so you are saying the avos didnt keep the torah. They can meditate with sticks fun heint biz morgen, thats not wearing tefilin.
Keeping “secrets of the torah” is beautiful but meaningless (to us).
They either wore tefilin or didn’t, and sticks aren’t tefilin.
Hence, your issue is that you are actually extremely literal.
As I’ve written on the aforementioned thread, the Medrash was given to study not to dismiss. Yes, we all know by now that Aggados are very deep and aren’t necessarily meant to take at face value. This is step one. We see a strange Maamar and we understand that it is something deeper than what meets the eye.
That is what we are taught when we start out. There is, however, a level two. We go the next step and actually try to glean an understanding. Only a fool would insist on level one when faced with level two.
Using the same neutralizing ‘not literal’ spray on every Maamar Chazal doesn’t really get you far. The idea is to learn what it does mean. For this there are Sefarim — of many types with different approaches and to varying depths.
July 27, 2017 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm in reply to: Requesting information about frumteens and R’ Yaakov Shapiro (hear me out mods!) #1327423HaLeiViParticipantJust to stick in another view point:
I, and even more so Halevia, have frequented Frumteens in their heyday. It was indeed refreshing to have a seriously Frum website in those days.The Hashkafah in general was very solid and it put things in correct perspective for many people.
The anti-Zionist things was a raw thumb and perhaps part of its unfortunate undoing. Rav Shapiro has adapted the Satmar approach, which is fine but far from the normative approach. To most Heimish people the Satmar obsession with ‘The Medina’ is off the mark. Had the site just kept away from the topic they might have been much better off. But the Satmar Shita is that Zionism is right up there with Avoda Zara, and a Milchamah MiDor Dor. Therefore, a lot of energy and space was wasted on that. And this took attention away from important topics.
The site itself, other than discussions with the Rav was also a great outlet for the teens to discuss things which each other and express themselves.
HaLeiViParticipantAre you implying that your comments were solely based on the title, and you didn’t read a thing?
I know. It’s called knee-jerk reactions. It’s when you announce sentiments we knew you had. When the words are not products of actual thought, but rather reflexive and predictable. But keep in mind that speech which isn’t conveying a new idea is, to the observer, nothing more than a bark. Guess if it’s annoying.
HaLeiViParticipantGo to voice.google.com and choose a number. Then you can set this number to forward all calls to a phone of your choice. Separately, you can forward text messages sent to that number to any phone. Regardless of these settings, all voice mail and text messages are sent to your email. If you respond to that email the person sees that as a response by text.
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