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שבת קי”ח ע”ב
הקורא הלל בכל יום הרי זה מחרף ומגדףIn Shvuos 25b it is clear that there is a Chiyuv every day. The Gemara states clearly that you cannot swear that you won’t put on Tefillin that day.
Karkafta Delo Manach Tefillin is a separate issue. It is about that Tosafos says it refers to one who never put on.
Tosafos in Shabbos 131 seems to imply that any Mitzva which is constant is bound to each day.
Whoa. Chachmei Yisroel! He’s only as good as his sources. He did a great service with this compilation but he is not a witness. The Chida complained about why he gave this much credence to Shalsheles Hakabalah, which is a collection of stories from any source.
What does he say about Merlin?
Rand0m3x, I’m quite aware of both your points but they aren’t relevant to the multitude discussions of this thread.
Gaon, when was there ever a discussion between the parties about Tzimtzum. And, when do Chassidim discuss it among themselves to make it the central point. Also, why would a specific idea of how to work out a certain Sugya cause a movement?
laskern, if there’s any one central Nekudas Machlokes between Chassidim and their opponents it is whether or Chassidim are a deviant group.
Aosak, Joseph added, “despite having grown up in a Cholov Yisroel only home” precisely because of this point.
What in the world does your medium of Gorel have to do with the Hetter!? Are you claiming that you just got Nevua because you opened a Tanach? If Gorel is Muttar they are all Muttar. If not, none of them are. If the idea is that you Daven to Hashem to send you an inspired guidance through the Torah which includes all knowledge, that is all very nice but it pertains to the discussion of whether it works or not. These beautiful ideas don’t change the prohibition of following a Gorel.
If you ordained your Gorel with wonderful ideas it becomes holy, all of a sudden? Perhaps using a Chumash is actually way worse since you are being Mishtamesh Betagga. It’s hard to see why that would be better than reciting a Pasuk onto a wound.
Perhaps you can answer that you aren’t really relying on where it opens but will only take a hint, a Siman. Nice Hetter, but this can apply to other mediums as well. We find in the end of Medrash Eicha where Rav Hoshia tells Rebbi to view an event in a certain light because of what they where Darshening that day.
Tosafos explains that Eliezer and Yonason where allowed to use the Nichush since they did it along with a Svara.
As to wondering who made this up, I’m with you on that one. So, I can declare, just like you, that it’s weird and funny. That’s where I get off.
Notice – all these were done with the highest level of Torah or sort of NeVuah. The words of G-D i.e. Torah or Neviim Kesuvim. I never heard one opening even a Gemorah.
“Goralos” if you are referring to Goral Ha’Gra that is done with a Chumash as well…So you just made up a classification in order to have a Taana on people. You also ignored part of the list.
Well, I meant the Goral Hagra along with the the whole Sefer Goralos from Reb Chaim Vittal.
Neville, not at all. The point is that it is not a fair comparison. For Halacha we never followed any supernatural advice. But for other matters we’ve had Neviim, Urim Vetumim, Chalomos, Psok Li Psukecha, Goralos (not sure how some Goralos are better than others, but they’ve been around), signs from Shamayim (by those who got them), ‘Muskal Rishon’.
In general, the Sugyos of supernatural are very involved, as the Rashba points out, and unfortunately are almost always dealt with wide-brush, universal attitude one way or the other.
So R’ Moshe can do what a Navi and the Urim Vetumin can’t?
I actually have a hard time believing anyone is truly insulted. Rather, they are “offended” for other people’s sake. How dare you joke about eating if fat people exist!!? From the tiny sampling of posters on this thread, it seems that actual overweight people aren’t offended.
I didn’t even find this video gluttonous. It didn’t delve into how tasty steak is or how luscious and juicy some other food is. I get turned off when I hear inspirational speakers extolling the virtues of food and this was not in that category. But here too, if I weren’t actually repulsed by such talk, but still pontificate against it, I probably wouldn’t discern between them, and I’d attack this as well.
Why would you bypass a filter? Are you desperate to get something?
If you don’t want to browse throw out the browser? If you’re afraid that your shadow will re-download a browser throw out the store app. If your shadow might get hold of that too, he might also secretly buy a non-kosher smartphone.
Amaleq as a nation is gone since the days of Shaul Hamelech. Haman was an individual in Persia.
I didn’t speak of any noise.
You are going through contortions to different bridge between a timer and a thermostat. Well, the difference is clear. It all has to do with the beholder. An I watching Melachah going on by itself or a Keili that’s left on.
Soaking dyes over Shabbos can also be a factory in operation. However, it isn’t noticed. It’s missing the Avsha Milsa aspect.
Joseph, would you mind elaborating?
Neville, actually in my own childhood, IIRC, air conditioners didn’t completely shut off. The thermostat controlled the compressor.
The Svara of Reb Moshe that you can run a factory is not original. The Gemara refers to this as Avsha Milsa. This is not Maris Ayin. It is Zilzul Shabbos due to the fact that an overt Melacha is happening. We don’t care about Shvisas Keilim but something that we see as a Melacha is Zilzul Shabbos.
Therefore, this situation can and did change regarding air conditioners. Having a timer run a drill is Zilzul but having a timer or thermostat run an air-conditioner is just as good as leaving it on.
This is why I said that you don’t even assume someone turned it on. I’m speaking about a weekday. The sound of an air conditioner going on is not anymore the sound of Melacha.
If a Christian recognizes the inherent issue, don’t you think a frum yid will be asked (acher meah vesrim)how he can do something that even Christians realized was wrong?
Do you know Reb Moshe’s famous retort to that?
Zdad, wasn’t he somewhat religious?
The reason why his Psak would be different today is because when you walk past a house an you hear the air conditioner go on, you don’t even assume that someone just turned it on. The factors that go into making something a Zilzul Shabbos have changed.
The issue is not that by being healed the person is actually being Oved the AZ. The problem is that he’ll follow the belief. This can obviously not apply when there is no belief and only the detractors are trying to dig up Apikursus origins. The issue applies to the belief of the practitioner, not the history.
As I said, the Rashba even suggests that Kishuf should be Muttar for healing.
I have no issue with complaints against alternative stuff. You wanna make a public awareness of the dangers of not following your doctor? Fine. You want to explain that this is in fact Assur? Go ahead. Just don’t make up Halachos. We have enough things labeled Avoda Zara, Kefira, and even Chazer Traif. It’s time to pick another Issur. Conflating these Issues is Mamesh Kali Hakerem.
From now on just carry with you a Muslim rug. Just put it down in the gutter and nobody will bother you.
Avoda Zara means one thing only, Avoda. Avoda is worship. Believing or attributing things and power is bad Hashkafa. Call it Apikursus if you want. It’s not Avoda Zara.
Now, it’s obviously funny to call an act Apikursus. Well, it’s worse to call an act in your own livingroom Avoda Zara.
Our Masechta Avoda Zara is growing larger than that of Avraham Avinu. Add alternative medicine, joining the Israeli army, having a smartphone, going to a Mekubal, getting a Bracha from a Rebbe, asking advice from a Talmid Chacham. Wow. Each one has many Prakim. Vehamachmir Tavi Avdo.
Are you saying that whoever does Kishuf also did Avoda Zara? So does a Kishuf practitioner get Skila? Does someone getting healed through Kishuf get Skila? The Rashba suggests that Kishuf is actually Muttar for healing. If you want to invoke Darkei Emori that’s one thing. But calling everying Aoda Zara just because you already hate it and consider it fraudulant is not Kehalacha.
If the person bows in front of the idol but has in mind that he is bowing to Hashem (sort of how Yaakov Avinu bowed in front of Esav — no Issur anyhow) he did not actually transgress Avoda Zara and it isn’t punishable.
Let’s fix that up a bit. This is correct only if bowing is not actually its Avoda. If bowing is its Avoda then he has to bring a Chattas but there is no Misa.
Who says it doesn’t work? I once saw somewhere (I don’t remember where) that the ta’ava for a”z was that it worked – through koach hatumah. Not ch”v a separate r’shus, but rather allowed by Hashem to to give us s’char for following His will even if it means foregoing the benefits.
You are referring to the Machloqes Rebbi Yosi and Rebbi Akiva in Sanhedrin 90.
Who said it’s a lifestyle?
Quoting Rabbi Miller about the internet today is as relevant as quoting Reb Moshe on the use of timers.
Daas Yochid, that is in front of the idol. Bowing is an Avoda to it. Besides, as you probably know, Ahava v’Yirah is actually not considered real transgression of Avoda Zara. Only when it is actually accepted. If the person bows in front of the idol but has in mind that he is bowing to Hashem (sort of how Yaakov Avinu bowed in front of Esav — no Issur anyhow) he did not actually transgress Avoda Zara and it isn’t punishable.
RebYidd23, meditation, positive thinking probably helps more than placebo.
So a spiritual dream is Avoda Zara?
There is no Avoda.
The practitioners’ beliefs are okay, but they’re doing an aveirah.
This is upside down. How can someone be Oved Avoda Zara without Avoda Zara!? Please find me an example. Is this really worse than actual Kishuf? Kishuf is based on Avoda Zara ideology but is still not considered Avoda Zara.
Zdad, regarding protests not help the Shabbos cause, absolutely. In fact, I doubt anyone here argues.
Ubiquitin, yes the Rambam says that a king has the right to create laws on top of the Torah, for the sake of society. And he may create his own punishments as well. In fact, even Beis Din can punish more severely than what is prescribed in the Torah if they see that the times call for it.
However, deciding between two people who is the rightful owner is different.
You want to see a protest against some neighborhood youngsters? Protests, by nature, are against a government. Youngsters are admonished.
However, you do give up admonishing after a while. But maybe we can be Yotze armchair Macha’a right now:
Antagonizing soldiers is wrong, counterproductive, despicable, and a Chilul Hashem!
There isn’t an actual Halacha derived. It mentions a Psak in the story. That is not the same thing.
For example, the Gemara discusses distances on earth in relation to the Zmanim. We know they meant it in the full meaning of the word since they are discussing practical ramifications. However, in this case, Chazal hadn’t derived anything practical from the story.
In fact, we don’t ‘Pasken‘ like any of Shlomo Hamelech’s trick Psakim. We can’t use motherly love, as proof of parenthood, in a Beis Din. Shlomo Hamelech saw the whole situation, it might have included Ruach Hakodesh, and being an undecidable case it might have allowed for Shuda deDayne—assumption of the judge.
As to the oddity of the story, first of all, this is not in Gemara or even Medrash Rabbah. So, if you have a hard time with it ignore it. There are other weird stuff about Shlomo Hamelech out there which, given the obsession of other nations about Shlomo Hamelech, I assume there are stories that originate from without.
This is what happened with the famous story of the two brothers trying to lighten the load of the other in the middle of the night, on the spot of the future Bayt al-Maqdis. It appears to be an Arabic story that made its way in a couple of centuries ago.
However, being that Tosafos mentions it, I’ll regard it as legitimate.
Now, a Sheid is not completely a physical being. They drive physical things and are basically related to the material world, but they aren’t actually composed of matter. Perhaps it can be said that just like our soul is manifest in a body, their personality is manifest in motion, changes, and action. Therefore, the whole story about the capture of Ashmedai should be read in this light. Shlomo Hamelech knew how to capture this non-physical being to be able to utilize it’s resources. To the outside observer, there was nothing to see other than amazing success.
In this story too, this strange guy showed up from nowhere, or perhaps he was born to a local family this way (which would explain the marrying and application of Jewish law) and the Medrash is informing us that this was Ashmedai’s doing. He pulled up this form of human from other worlds and applied it here.
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LessChumras, yes that’s true. They are written in Ksav Ivri. This is actually a testament to the fact that the Torah has to predate Ezra, and actually Sancheriv’s conquest as well. The Samaritans didn’t accept Ezra and yet the differences are minor and few.
Thank YOU 😊 and sending the blessings and light right back to You too and your family too!!!
Amen!
This project is a wonderful, and long overdue, idea. It would be even better if people of all communities are made aware of other communities at a young age.
You sound close to that boundary already. When you marry you’ll get to honor the Torah by encouraging and allowing Torah learning.
Don’t invest your time with stranger boys even if appears to be spiritually motivated.
What does the iPhone have to do with space travel? Were they missing Uber?
Why is Chabad ‘out of the picture’? You found that many of them promote or harbor a mistaken, non-important sentiment. They still hope for Moahiach to come and don’t claim that he already arrived. Nor are they making unholy things holy.
This question might be more important. I don’t Chaim to know the answer.
One piece of advice I’d give to proponents of any divisive ideology: keep in mind the outside perspective before you begin. We’ve all seen in the other recent threads how foolish it comes across when you announce to others ideas that are based on insider logic.
Aggada, Remazim, and Svaros are only useful for those who already signed up. If someone asks you what you believe answer dryly. If you are asked for the basis of your belief don’t pile on all the Remazim and pointers. Just lay out the roots, even if it doesn’t reflect your personal excitement.
Take a picture of him lighting the Menorah.
So when is Sof Zman Achila? And which part of the Galus Sof Zman Krias Shma/Tfila?
Hey, is that why there are so many late Minyanim these days — since we are anyhow after the Zman Tfila?
Anyhow, now we know what the Rishonim were doing in the ‘dark age’. It’s obvious. It was the Zman for Bedikas Chametz. So this is why the Yeshivos in Bavel were declining. You aren’t allowed to learn before the Bedika.
Some people have a very hard time with language. This only gets worse as you grow older. There are plenty of Shiurim of all types. Find the right flavor of Halacha Shiurim to follow and within a few months you’ll be able to out-maneuver most of your peers. That’ll do away with the Am Haaretz feelings.
But parallel to this it is still worthwhile to make a steady effort in learning real Sefarim. Start with Chumash. If you are comfortable with Chumash it shouldn’t be a big deal to move to Mishnayos with Rav/Tiferes Yisroel.
However, you should desperate these two distinct efforts. Don’t let the slow progress of one get in the way of the other.
Oh. So it’s Joseph season again? How often? What is it, every, say, two years and three months?