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Pi Ha’Gevurah should spelled with capital letters.
Apologize for what? To which kollelman? As far as the number of the dead goes, the burden of proof is on the prosecution — especially when it comes to the unusual and explosive claim of murdering 300-400 civilians in one village.
And if it is not the official or encouraged policy of the Russian army, you cant blame Putin personally or Russiaas a country. Individual law-breakers need to be prosecuted.
The bodies could have been planted. Also some rogue Russian soldiers may have committed crimes, but not the execution of a lots of people, and also not as a policy of the Russian army. Look at the news — there are alleged Ukrainian atrocities against Russian POWs dating back to March 30 and so on.
Avraham in MD, what we know is that the hospital and the theater were bombed, the Ukrainian authorities conveniently did provide information about the presence of their military men there — whether they were there or not — thus omitting important details to possibly create propaganda.
If you were following the news more closely, you would know that Russia by now faces a shortage of precision-guided munitions. Also these munitions help only so much to limit the damage — they are not lasers.
As far as Bucha goes, let me be clear: the Russians are certainly capable of committing war crimes, but in this case I have my strong doubts about the whole story. Firstly, read my previous post as to why the Ukrainians can not be trusted. The Western governments were also playing a similar game. When — some time ago — Russia attacked a Ukrainian army base next to Lviv, Blinken’s response was: “Stop the brutality!”. Which brutality — a completely military target had been struck! As soon as Putin declared war, UK prime minister declared it “a horrific invasion”. What was horrific about it at the time? Also the huge amount of alleged victims — 300 to 400 — only in one village. And they claim in other places it is even more! This sounds very fishy.Avraham in MD, READ what you quoted — it implies exactly what i wrote. One is not prohibited from bombing a hospital or a school if there are enemy combatants there unless excessive force is used,
Always_Ask…, the theater in Mariupol — how do you know there were no Ukrainian combatants nearby? Why in the world would the Russians bomb a purely civilian place in very heavily pro-Russian Mariupol?! We are not talking about Lviv (Lvov) where I would understand why they would have a yetzer hora to do so.
The Russians stopping the convoys trying to take people out? And you know that how? Because Zelensky and his cronies told you so?Avraham in MD, Russia also has a number of reasons/justifications for their invasion. You and others here were to quick to swallow the Western/Ukrainian propaganda.
Avraham in MD, the Russian army behavior is not up to the Israeli standards, but there was no solid proof of war crimes yet. If enemy combatants take up positions in or near a hospital, you are allowed to fire at them. You have to learn the laws of warfare to know what constitutes a war crime.
2cents, did you support the US invasions of Iraq and Afganistan, the Israeli invasion of Gaza and bombings of Lebanon? Plenty of civilians were killed there etc.
Hiju, please be more specific.Always_Ask…, destroyed buildings (or even dead bodies) prove nothing. You need to have a proof that someone intentionally targeted purely civilian targets or used disproportional force — like dropping a huge bomb on a single enemy soldier hiding near an apartment building. The US and Israeli armies also destroy buildings too, you know.
Jackk, who said they just intentionally targeted civilians — there is no proof of that yet!
Jackk, Putin views the Ukrainians as a brotherly nation. Your accusations have no basis in reality. Learn more about the background of the conflict.
Gadolhadorah, you are so wrong!! The Ukrainian government have been lying like crazy from the very beginning of the war. Zelensky accused Russia of committing genocide!(Do you know what genocide is?) When Russian shells or a missile land someplace in Ukraine, they start yelling “war crimes, crimes against humanity”. The Ukrainians clearly can not be trusted. They totally could have staged the whole Bucha incident.Smerel, one does not need articles or investigators to know what Trump is. He said enough in front of numerous cameras and tweeted enough and did enough things which are officially known from which it is clear what he is.
TS Baum and Smerel, El. Cheney’s views are solidly Republican in the traditional sense. Trump’s are lav davka. Cheney is not a Trump boot-licker, though. That is the whole story
Smerel, why in the world would Cheney suddenly embrace the Left-Liberal agenda?!? Are you for real? Stop spewing the lunatic Trump propaganda which can not withstand the smallest scrutiny.
Chas ve’sholom, to speak about Ravina the way some posters did here.
Abba S, denial is not a place in Egypt. The Capitol police almost did not use their firearms. The Trump supporters beat up the police and forced their way in. Enough already.
HaLeivi ,do you know that the US Capitol was stormed and overrun on Jan. 6, 2021?
Trump did know they would do it? Anybody a little intelligent should have seen that it totally could happen.AnonymosJew and others, I answered your questions about the “gezeirah min Ha’Shamaim”, but for some reason the Moderator did not let my post through.
Ujm, your statement is patently wrong.
AnnonymosJew, there was a gezeirah min Ha’Shamaim on the Europen Jewry. However, also there was a gezeirah min Ha’Shamaim that a part of the European Jewry had to be saved. One of the ways the latter was accomplished was by involving the US in the war (due to the bombing of Pearl Harbor).
Ujm, it was true only at a certain point in the war.
Akuperma, the US was not trying to provoke Japan. It was trying to help China which was facing brutal Japanese aggression.
Ujm, “kach hee darka shel Torah: pas ba’melach…” refers to someone who learns to become a Talmid Chocham — that, if that what it takes, he should do it. It does not refer to ba’alei batim.
3 hours of working a day? That is if you can make enough money to support your family that way.Yabia Omer, this trait of Ashkenazim is a ma’alah. It is called guarding the mesorah to prevent deviations and guarding against sin — as opposed to anything-goes Judaism (like in many of your communities). Ok, not mamash anything goes, but too lax.
AviraDeArah, there is an obligation to learn all of the Torah. Also, Rashi in parshas KiSisa brings down a ma’amar ChaZ”L saying that a Talmid Chocham must be adorned with knowledge of the TaNaCh. And nobody learns it overly in Yeshivos.
It may be mentioned in the Da’as Zkeinim mi’Ba’alei ha’Tosfos. Two Rabbonim clashed about it.
Some did. There was a machlokes about it, though. It may also mentioned in the Kinnos of Tishah be’Av.
AvirahDeArah, Jews did such things during the Crusades and the pogroms in times of the Middle Ages.
Kollelman, please reveal how many millions have already died from the vaccines. 40 million, 50 million? Enlighten the ones dwelling in darkness.
Kollelman, being a niddah for months is not a horrible side effect. Severe health damage or death can be called horrible side effects or a danger. Plus, in all of these cases there has to be an ivestigation by proprerly qualified doctors proving that the problem was caused by the vaccine. Again, if someone gets vaccinated, and then walks out of the clinic, gets into a car and gets into an accident, so the vaccine caused the accident? On the other hand, people die from COVID.
If all these non-vaccine treatments are so effective, why they did not stop the recent COVID surge in the under-vaccinated deep South? The people there know all about the great non-vaccine treatments and the horrible vaccines.Kollelman, stop spreading DESINFORMATION! Tons of people in NY, Israel, Canada took vaccines. Where are all the horrible injuries and deaths that you are talking about?!? (Aside from the Internet). Also, if someone takes a vaccine, and then gets into an accident, it is also because of the vaccine?
The Shulchan Aaruch says that we are provide poor non-Jews with charitable donations.
After one case we should start being very suspicious and start pushing people away?!? Is this the way of Avrohom Avinu? A good way to fulfill the ma’amar Chazal “hevey oheiv es ha’brioyos u’mekarvam le’Torah”? And one wonders why there is no Beis Ha’Mikdash. Also, just a warning — if you treat other Yidden this way, expect being treated similarly by the Beis Din shel Ma’alah.
The little I know, mudrering a Goy is murder! If someone knows little, he sholud not be posting.
Decency, they did have rules: social distancing, no gatherings of more than 50 etc. And those were adhered to! Many people were even more machmir on themselves. And yet, their death toll skyrocketed, and was for a long time a couple of times more than in the US. Only because of the bungled US response we only recently overtook them.
Regarding the masks: please spare us the propaganda/fake news from the red-neck websites. They just don’t want to be bothered with rules and the government telling them what to do even if the last one is 100% right.
You can beat the virus by letting it run unchecked and achieving herd immunity, but it will kill many, many people in the process. Do you care about saving people?Decency, please, no outrageous right-wing propaganda about the Marxists trying to take away our freedom. It belongs on a red-neck militia website.
I readily acknowledge that I know nothing about the mental health. However, you must admit that the number of suicides is very small in comparison to the number of Covid victims.
Bk613, all the possibilities that you mention are, to a degree, far-fetched. According to you, people should be allowed to keep their business open and working on Shabbos, because he may not make it financially otherwise, and then … So, working on Shabbos should be mutar because of pikuch nefesh.
Also, Syag and Bk613, according to the Shulchan Aruch we don’t sit shivah for someone who committed suicide, because he is a a big rosha. Any comment? (I know there is a heter to sit if the the public does not know what happened, but me’ikar ha’din — one does not unless the fellow was a real shoteh according to Halochah before he did it).bk613, the number of suicides is very small when compared with the number of COVID victims. Also, if the fellow became totally crazy and killed himself, he is a victim. However, if he committed suicide for which he can be partially or fully held responsible, it is different from someone just getting corona and passing against his will.
Rationally Realistic, nobody said that hospitalizations rates are now high in NY — bH, they are not. Cuomo said the measures are meant to prevent things from going bad, because in other countries the second wave also started from small clusters.
Rationally Realistic, to the Sweden question — yes, a roidef. They have a very high death toll. America used to be much less than them, but because of the bungled response by now America overtook them. Also in Sweden they had partial measures in place, and the Swedes being Swedes followed them religiously. That is why their death toll is very high, but only to a point — they had inadequate measures, but they did follow them.
Syag, I believe I need to respond to him so that others will not be influenced by his statements.
Akuperma, your callous disregard for the loss of human life is outrageous! Those people who died in great epidemics a long time ago are dead now – they can not be saved. We are talking about saving people now. There is almost a quarter million Americans dead from corona by now. And it is with partial mitigation measures. It is just a cold?!? A flu is not this deadly!
Trump closed only the Chinese border. He should have closed all borders quickly. Instead he refused to implement all the necessary measures and has been trying to deliberately minimize the pandemic. And yes — pikuach nefesh (saving lives) overrides jobs!
And yes — I heard some Rabbonim saying that Chazal would have forbidden cars because enough people die in accidents. I don’t know if most Rabbonim agree with this.Akuperma, so many people died (many could have been saved if not for the criminal Republican negligence). Your trying to mevatel the loss of human life is despicable!!
Akuperma, and if they had not been taking measures, the death toll could have been 6000+, if not 9000+, by now.
Akuperma, it is 1000 MORE PEOPLE WHO DIED. It is like another intifada. Almost all world governments take it seriously.
Gadolhadorah, talking about our view of the situation, what is milchemes Gog’u’Magog?
There is this accusation about the nursing homes. It needs investigation what he could have done differently, how much he knew etc.
Som1, it was clear from the very beginning (once it appeared in China — before it got anywhere else) that this virus was serious business. It was clear from all the reports — to anybody who is somewhat educated and has his head screwed on right.
New York has a high death toll — true. But once the virus got seeded in NY, there is only so much Cuomo could do. He appears to have done a great job bringing the virus under control BY APPLYING SCIENTISTS-ADVISED PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES !!! IN OTHER PLACES IN THE US IT WAS NOT PROPERLY DONE! Thanks to right-wing lunatics. Just closing the border with China to their nationals was not enough. They reopened in the South against advice of the top doctors who were warning it was going to cause what it did.And also, Som1, don’t let yourself be programmed by the right- wing media which lies even more than the msm when they want to.