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August 17, 2020 8:54 am at 8:54 am in reply to: it’s dumb to blame trump for not doing anything about covid19 #1892808n0mesorahParticipant
Dear One,
“Hospitals inflated the numbers to get funding.”
How does this work? Are they getting money for treatment that is not being provided? Are they creating fictitious patients?
n0mesorahParticipantDear One,
Hostility toward Israel, is not hostile to Jews. Big difference.
And, it was not from day one. The only major issue of contention was approving new settlements. Obama brought Israel into negotiations twice. The US never forced a concession from Israel to keep negotiations going. [This is in line with every president since Nixon, applying less pressure on Israel, then his predecessor. Trump is in line with this. In fact it may be impossible for the next president to pressure Israel less.] This was mostly during the second term. In his first term, Obama gave a major pro Israel speech at the UN. (“America has Israel’s back.”)
The redefinition of marriage, mostly happened under Bush’s watch. It seemed like the trend was turning back a bit in state referendums. Then it gained a bit of momentum before it reached the supreme court. Not sure why this is a presidential issue. It never involved the executive branch.
On BLM, I think the reverse is more of a criticism. Obama did little by way of repairing race relations in this country. He did see to it, that his initiatives should be followed through. Also, he is a terrible spokesperson for the guy on the street. He never took a firm position on racism. Bush did a much better job of bringing the country together. Where do you think he empowered BLM? [In other words, what kind of power does BLM have outside of the support of the masses? And, how much is that really worth?]
n0mesorahParticipantDear Frum,
“Very large and broad”or, “nebulous”? I think the whole discussion is fictitious. Nobody ever demonstrated a hint of a parameter for what can be called jewish music. The only point ever made, is that these things change with time. I consider just about every song out there, to be (potentially) tomorrow’s jewish music.August 17, 2020 1:34 am at 1:34 am in reply to: kamala harris wants to be the vp of a racist #1892804n0mesorahParticipantWhy don’t you take it up with her?
August 16, 2020 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm in reply to: Will the eventual closure of the USPO impact you? #1892756n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
The cost is covered by the amount of business the US economy generates, due to cheaper services and greater infrastructure.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Som,
Memorandum of the CMS of March 13.
n0mesorahParticipantDear One,
Ask him. I”m not sure what this means to you. Those in government that are able to govern during crises, did. The others did not. Nobody ever advocated for Trump that he is a great leader in face of a crises. The pandemic should not be held against him. It is not in his skill set. Cuomo opted to clear out the hospitals, instead of death panels. You think it would have been wiser for him to do nothing?!? Or, do you follow every whim theory and think that he wanted more people to die for political reasons?
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
Yes, no clear reason to stop them.
n0mesorahParticipantDear One,
The camp david accord is very beneficial to Israel. The Shah was still in power when Carter was president.
Anyhow, you missed the point by a mile. Oslo was only possible because of the decade before it. But, overall it may have been to Israel’s benefit that Carter did not win a second term.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Sam,
“and affect the yiddishkeit and kedusha of klal yisrael”
Not one bit true.
n0mesorahParticipantThe Cuomo nursing home libel should end. As I outlined on a different thread, he followed what was then a federal guideline. So did many other states. Some states still had this guideline in place after NY started requiring each patient to have negative test results before going to private care facilities. Some states nursing homes were harder hit than NY’s. Studies conducted indicate that the nursing homes share a large portion of the blame.
There is nothing to indicate that NY would be better off without all the intervention on the state level. If Cuomo would have just kept wishing it away, the state would still be seeing a thousand deaths a day.
August 16, 2020 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm in reply to: it’s dumb to blame trump for not doing anything about covid19 #1892671n0mesorahParticipantThe President is claiming that he did a great job on the pandemic. You are saying that he did not have to; or could not have done anything. See the problem?
August 16, 2020 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm in reply to: it’s dumb to blame trump for not doing anything about covid19 #1892670n0mesorahParticipantDear Proud,
You are allowed to vote for Trump, even though he ignored his duties by not fighting the pandemic.
August 16, 2020 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm in reply to: it’s dumb to blame trump for not doing anything about covid19 #1892669n0mesorahParticipantDear Som,
If the feds would have done what the states did, it would have had a huge impact. China only had one epicenter. The U. S. is on it’s fourth.
August 16, 2020 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm in reply to: it’s dumb to blame trump for not doing anything about covid19 #1892667n0mesorahParticipantDear Participant,
Did you notice that the U. S. is the only country in the developed world that was so badly hit? Nobody thought this would happen.
August 16, 2020 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm in reply to: Will the eventual closure of the USPO impact you? #1892664n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
You are getting closer. It is called optimizing public assets. Without it, all the private companies would have ten-fold expenses. And, marginal profits. The USPS could be closed when it is no longer needed. Not when it is no longer a cornerstone of the US economy.
n0mesorahParticipantThe funny thing about this thread, is that everyone jumped on if 9/11 was Clinton’s or Bush’s fault. There is a much better debate about the other event in the OP. Oslo came after the longest republican run in the white house, since the state was created. Israel had it’s first public spats with the american president in the eighties. ALso, the PLO was resurrected before Clinton took office. If Carter had won a second term, there probably would not have been an Oslo or an intifada. Though overall, Israel could be in a worse situation.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Avi,
That is the interview that we have been discussing.
She was answering why she is okay with the possibility that some other leader can take over the BLM movement. Government and civilization are not part of the interview. Therefore, lack of central leadership, has nothing to do with anarchy. Incidentally, one can have Marxist views, and be completely opposed to anarchy.
Marxism has nothing to do with the ‘no rules anarchy’ concept.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Proud,
To whom do you refer as ‘liberals’, and why do you think they are bad?
n0mesorahParticipantDear One,
The Obama administration was not hostile to jews. This is the USA, not Argentina or Pakistan.
Biden is the same gaffe expert in his seventies, that he was in his forties. He wasn’t being called senile then.
Your facts are fictions. Again. I enjoy the parody.
Thanks!
n0mesorahParticipantThere is an esteemed yeshivishe posek, who supports calling Hatzolah when there is a car crash on shabbos.
How would Hatzolah know if the person is jewish or not? I never heard them asking during a call.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
This is all after the fact. If a congregation would require everyone to daven bareheaded, there is no clear reason to stop them.But to not misunderstand me, if one decides to wear a (black) hat then he should. There is nothing wrong with a (black) hat.
August 16, 2020 11:08 am at 11:08 am in reply to: Will the eventual closure of the USPO impact you? #1892505n0mesorahParticipantIF the USPS would close, the cost of delivery to the boondocks would be astronomical. We would probably see the costs of all delivery services go up a lot. Which would be a blow to all the home delivery throughout the nation. Even Amazon could take a big hit. ‘Free’ economics, is never a vacuum.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Akuperma,
Your insistence on the lockdowns not being justified, is akin to confusing east and west.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol.
Trump is not credible. He never was. He always makes it up as he goes along. Everybody who knows him understands that he exaggerates. Why would you believe he is following a strategy? I doubt he ever has counsel on these allegations. Counsel is for solving his legal troubles.
It is puzzling to me, that somebody who was in the public eye for so long should be so misrepresented by both his supporters and his detractors.
n0mesorahParticipantOctober Surprise? Ask Russia.
n0mesorahParticipantPence does not have broad appeal, even among Republicans.
n0mesorahParticipantWelcome to the we know zero about american politics thread!
The country’s overall direction, is much more dependent on the politics of states and cities. On the federal level, congress is a greater driver than the white house. Presidents have an effect, but it is not so simple, as the President being Republican or Democrat. The President’s abilities are held by Congress. (They used to be. The system has been severely tested the last twenty plus years.)
n0mesorahParticipantAny tune/song/lyric preferred by a committed jew, is a jewish as music can be. (It is an art = culture, which is a different symbolism than religion.)
August 14, 2020 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #1892209n0mesorahParticipantDear Two,
The Wuhan lab was not a secret one. It collaborated with many international scientists. Over fifty american scientists have visited the lab. This strain of coronavirus was unknown to all of them. It is more likely to assume that it was in some secret lab, than to believe it was kept hidden in the Wuhan lab from so many experts. [Or that they are lying.]
August 14, 2020 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm in reply to: What if the Witnesses Don’t Want to Kill Him? #1892194n0mesorahParticipantGood question!
It is a mitzvah on the witnesses to carry out the execution. I am unsure if the requirement is on them personally. Perhaps they can send an emissary.
If they refuse to even be nominally involved in the execution, it is possible that the criminal would be released. I assume that the din of ‘the walking dead’ would apply. This does not seem to be a reason to retroactively negate the testimony.
I would not consider their defiance as challenging the bais din. Rather, it is an unwillingness to perform a mitzvah. I doubt the rule of makkos maardus applies to communal mitzvos. So, the only consequence the witnesses face, is being called reshaim, by denying justice. The same as a witness who refuses to testify.
n0mesorahParticipantI have had no problems ,leaving a nebulizer on all shabbos. If it gets turned off, it can be turned on with a spoon. If it gets unplugged, it can be turned off plugged in and then turned on with a spoon.
n0mesorahParticipantThe same could be said for (black) socks.
n0mesorahParticipantSilence is better. The only reason people know about these far left nobodies in congress, is because the center right decided to respond to them. That gives them exposure, and they learn how to handle the spotlight. Given enough attention, they could turn into sustainable politicians. I wonder if it could be said, that the mainstream left created Trump and the center right strengthened Pelosi.
n0mesorahParticipant???? means children. Being a masculine word, all the pronouns will be masculine. There is no difference between sons and daughters in basic jewish education. The parshah after the wise child, specifically mentions daughters.
I doubt the whole theory that the mitzvah of sippur yitziyas mitzrayim has more to do with your sons than your guests.
n0mesorahParticipantSo?
n0mesorahParticipantWe seem to agree that clothing does not make it’s own meaning. I think it has to come from the surrounding culture. You seem to say, that meaning can be put into it intentionally. That is our disagreement.
Rav Miller’s essay does not support your theory. It points to specific clothing being silly. (The mets cap.) People could attach serious thinking to their clothing. But they do not. You have even attempted to make that argument with the yeshivishe levush.
In the old world, there was a lot of importance attached to many trivial matters. Therefore, everything in life was attached. Changing your outfit could lead one to being excommunicated. It is not like that today. And it is a poor argument that we are inferior because of it.
The fact that it is required points to how shallow it is. If it really meant something, than the value of it could be taught. Then, people would want to wear it. Only because it is meaningless, it has to be “enforced”. Clearly, meaning still has not been put into it. If your friends want to make meaning out of it, they can go right ahead. But who is to stop them from attaching some awful meaning to it?
n0mesorahParticipantI do not know of any regular yid (Not a king.) from after Elkanah to Rabbeinu Gershom that had multiple wives.
August 14, 2020 11:38 am at 11:38 am in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #1892130n0mesorahParticipantAnything is possible. If this coronavirus was released from a lab, it likely was not from the one in Wuhan.
n0mesorahParticipantAm I supposed to question the whole theory of an obligation to cover the head? Or, how we get from covering the head to wearing a (black) hat? Or, why do you jump to the tallis now?
When the talking points keep changing, it makes for a poor argument.
August 14, 2020 9:39 am at 9:39 am in reply to: Returning to Lakewood Elul Z’man – Covid update #1892103n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
If a student in BMG develops symptoms, he is old enough to seek medical help on his own. [BTW- There is some setup for ill bochurim. There always has been.] Rapid testing can be done at Friendly Urgent Care. Quarantining in a dorm would not work. There are better questions to ask.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
I am not clear on what you meant to say after the comma.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Rational,
For what is there to blame? Seems like a nice story.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
Wearing a hat was a sign of respect in 1920, not 2020.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Simple,
Who said the world put chashivus into it? It is the same shirt as before. That was exactly the point the Rosh Yeshiva I quoted before was trying to make.
Gold has value because it does not rust. And lasts better and longer than common metals. Same for diamonds.
The Chazon Ish is in line with the tzaavah of Reb Avrohom Danzig: the author of Chayai Adam. There was a point in history that yidden thought that way. About everything. So what?
People attach all kinds of silly ideas to the black hat. There is no reason for someone who is growing without one, to get mixed up in it.
Ask your friends. I am the opposite. I get invited to all these places, with my hat, jacket. and white shirt. Maybe your friends can’t separate their clothing from who they are. A pity.
I am saying the opposite. People giving a “reality” to something that has no distinction, is propaganda. Such a “reality” would have to come naturally from the surrounding culture itself.
Day and night has meaning all by itself. And so do a million other nouns. Adjectives need context.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Sam,
Those reasons are attached to the clothing. They are not the reasons behind the clothing itself.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Charlie,
If you can please help me locate the Rema you mentioned.
The rulers of the land are required to maintain the peace. Therefore they are not held accountable for executions, unless it is for nefarious purposes. (Such as Achav and Navos.) Similarly, they are allowed to conduct destructive military campaigns, as long as they are not excessive.
August 13, 2020 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm in reply to: Returning to Lakewood Elul Z’man – Covid update #1891991n0mesorahParticipantDear Ctr,
Herd immunity after a seven week lockdown is meaningless. It is a good indicator of the effective method used in the northeast. I’m not saying it was worth it, but it works.
PS Lakewood can have larger gatherings than the rest of NJ, because it is mostly the same people in the same place everyday. There is still very little eating out. And no big indoor parties etc.
n0mesorahParticipantThis vaccine inoculates against science.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
What behavior? I disagreed with everyone and defended nobody. -
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