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n0mesorahParticipant
Dear Common,
I posed the question about davening at home, and was told Kol Hakovod! The Rosh Yeshivos and Rabbonim who have very busy schedules daven in private often. Those that deem it a serious risk will still daven at home. There is not much to say. Many shuls are not as beneficial as they should be. But what is there to do? Maybe we could daven.n0mesorahParticipantDear The,
I used google. Hmmmm. Some of these studies do not even exist. The first one you listed is dated on other boards as taking place in 2020. Why did you leave that out?
Last year, during the measles (The disease that kills 100,000 children a year.) I was in Lakewood. I overheard a yungerman who had conducted his own study: Unvaccinated children have autistic parents.May 18, 2020 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm in reply to: What is EY doing in fighting Covi-19 that NYC can learn from” #1862030n0mesorahParticipantIt seems that poorer countries have better numbers than wealthier countries.
My siblings in EY told me, that people there cooperate because there is a greater sense of responsibility. When the one who are at risk are your brothers, you are happy to stay inside.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
Huh? Who is threatening to rule over you?You asked to change the topic, to Mr. Biden. What are you pushing on others? I lost you on why any of this should matter. {Unless universalism is very important to you.} Liberalism has very little to gain from political office. Society changes politics. Not the other way around.n0mesorahParticipantDear Bk,
This thread was not started by the left/media at large. The point of the thread was never clarified. I think it was leadership, not politics. How is there a double standard in this post?n0mesorahParticipantDear Milhouse,
So a king is a ruler who cannot be legally deposed. That is your opinion. I do not see it. Definitely not compatible with TaNaCh.I did not look up the passuk. I recall something to the effect of your words becoming public without mention of danger. Maybe that was Koheles. Okay, I will check it up.
Still why do you insist it is not dangerous? There is a whole thread discussing if someone was illegally in peril because of his place in Washington politics. (Or something like that. It is not my type of game.) Also, why does the danger have to come from the Government? Why can’t some radicals (namely me) act on their own, because of what they read online?
n0mesorahParticipantCome on everybody!
We could discuss each Governor’s policy. We cannot discuss the President’s. Because there is none. He keeps moving on to something else. Bush had his popularity soar (like 85%) after 9/11. Trump wasted an easy chance to win reelection in a landslide. He never acts like a leader. That may be a good thing. But people get frustrated by a lack of leadership during a crisis. This is not about policy or politics. Leave Coumo out. He is leading 5 states right now. Trump is leading 0. I am not saying Coumo is better for it, put it does seem like the President does not get it. [If he does, it is a golden opportunity for him.] Please try to understand the point before making it political.n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
We will never get the chance to ask our Rabbonim if we SHOULD daven alone, or together.n0mesorahParticipantDear Silent,
Left wing modern orthodoxy is also mainstream. Otherwise, remove the wing. Radical left modern orthodoxy is not mainstream. Radical means extreme.Dear Hachareidy,
Why is this a reason to be silent? It is probably worth repeating.n0mesorahParticipantWe should redefine this thread. Lack of empathy? Self absorbed? Lack of leadership? Out of touch? Ignoring facts? Head in the sand?Maybe a fool? Ostrich politics? Avoidable deaths? Not a king? Best president ever?
It would be a waste to have such a varied conversation without a good heading.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
Okay, but your (mine and anyone else’s too) idea of established values is a minority in every aspect, when compared to politics or society at large. Why would you care if Mr. Biden or President Trump line up with your values, your still the same one opinion?
Not okay. This definition is based on allowing societies to develop their traditions according to their own beliefs. Therefore, Conservatism is far, far more introverted than extroverted.
Same idea, different phrase. Why should someone from a different society believe in these values?n0mesorahParticipantDear Som,
Reb Eliezer is confused why the President is denying the reality of the pandemic. He did not give specifics. (He does not have to. My hangnail is not a pandemic.) Maybe he does not accept that the President can still be putting his self interest before the country’s. Either way, it is not good leadership.n0mesorahParticipantDear Milhouse,
This is confusing. I will write as if you made these points.If I got you wrong, just assert your opinion.
1) Who could more truthfully claim “I am the state”, Charles V or Donald Trump? (Slight spoiler alert the President has made the point without saying it.)
2) What matters is if he is a legal king. Therefore a puppet king is also a king. A president with vast powers is not. I do not think that would hold up to an inquiry of our Torah sources.
3) Because the law allows it, the advice in Mishlei does not apply. WOW!!! I could think of many reasons not to do things that are lawful.n0mesorahParticipantDear Milhouse,
My mistake. Make that poetic justice. If I had the genius of our President, that first comment would be sarcasm. Alas, forgive my grotesque blunder. But, I still have no reason to hold him to any standard. He could hold himself to his own standard.n0mesorahParticipantThe main is always relative to what the extremes of the stream appears to be. When standing on the head is no longer considered extreme, it becomes mainstream.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Milhouse,
I’m not sure that there can be any concept of a governing body, without the concept of respect. Your opinion is that respect is completely subjective? Like, if I decide he deserves my respect than I should give it even though he has no idea why I respect him? You seem very sure of yourself. And I have no idea what you mean.Anyways……….. It sure seems like our President does not think of himself as a public servant. Many great kings felt beholden to their realm. In your opinion, what makes a king a king? Pharaoh was called Pharaoh.
n0mesorahParticipantHowever, sponsored content are deemed essential. Migrant workers were brought in from Honduras to fill in for the sick.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
I have no idea what you could be referencing. You seem to be a liberal, just not like those liberals. You can stand up to whomever you like, I am just drinking coffee.n0mesorahParticipantDear Little,
Agreed.
Dear Milhouse,
Feel free? A lot of comments here do not care for personal accountability.And to Reb Eliezer too. From an historical perspective, President Trump is as wealthy and as powerful as just about any king mentioned in TaNaCh. Even puppet kings have the din of a melech.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
Whoooooops! Icee is Quick Check. I think food is pretty much off the table. There is no smoothies in the WaWa I went to. Excellent view of the mountains, though.n0mesorahParticipantDear Jersey,
Forget the news. Do the math. From a geographic perspective the only country worse off is Russia. Even Europe as a whole is better off.n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
There are no slurpees (Correction Icees.) in wawa now. Most of them have a nice outdoor area. Especially away from the cities.n0mesorahParticipantDear Milhouse,
That is an extremely liberal interpretation of justice.May 17, 2020 12:27 am at 12:27 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1861292n0mesorahParticipantBut we need to sue the NJ Governor to maintain our rights!
n0mesorahParticipantDear Jersey,
Which news outlet one follows does not matter here., It only matters if they cannot do math themselves. Take any official count, and tell us how this country is in good shape. Additionally, a lot of the testing is reactive, not proactive. (There is still no cohesive plan how to test and track cases.) Factor in the geography of the various hot spots, and the country as a whole is in a really bad spot. It seems like it is up to regional groups. (Like the northeast Governors joining together. The Great Lake Region and the Pacific Coast States.) Or each Governor for themeself.n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
If so, we should end the conversation on this thread.n0mesorahParticipantDear Defend,
Being blunt or sharp, is not an indicator of hate. Lack of patience, maybe. An attempt to highlight the point, likely.n0mesorahParticipantMaybe the first date could be much shorter, and walk an empty neighborhood.
Or, maybe go to a WaWa. Find one with a lot of grass and a good view. They are somewhat empty now.
An, older single called me today. I’ll ask him.n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
Is that an opinion? Rhetoric? Sarcasm? Why do I always feel like I am missing the joke? If we want to talk sensibly about the pandemic, we should reference scientists, not politicians.n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
they may even have something a about limiting guests on your patio. This is efsher l’varer. Maybe the contract is available online.n0mesorahParticipantDear Pekak,
Exactly! Success in this endeavor, is incidental. Not recurring, throughout the ages. And definitely not through out the land. But to say only one of these matches in my ancestry was successful, is a bit harsh.n0mesorahParticipantDear Akuperma,
A President is supposed to be able to listen to expert opinions. He should not be watching television all day. It seems people buy a media narrative, way more than the media story. The american media downplayed the severity of this virus, and helped delay the response. Go look at the facts on the ground on any day in march, and compare it with the news cycle of that day.n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
Please tell me where this comes from. Very few conservative thinkers write about these topics. (Why? Maybe because they are true conservatives? It is a vexing question!) If you are a liberal, than universalism is at or near the center of your worldview. Therefore, liberals are always getting caught up in what others are practicing or preaching. Hence, The common hypocrisy. For a conservative, universalism is peripheral or non-existent. There is no automatic reason to fight anyone else’s worldview. I do not mean to call you a liberal, but why is any of this important to you.n0mesorahParticipantWe have more people affected, by a gigantic number. If I would act like he does, you would not call me stupid, You would call me immature. What is this about? The President? Or the virus?
n0mesorahParticipantTwo years ago I read a court decision about freedom of religion in a private community. It was not discussing gatherings, but it seemed like they could ban them. Because they want everyone to use/rent the social hall.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Yankelle,
The term “Sar HaTorah” is not new. In the most recent era, it was given to the great marbeetzai torah. The Netziv. R’ Chaim Brisker, R’ Aaron, R’ Moshe, R’ Shach, R’ Shmuel Rozovsky, and R’ Chaim Shmuelevitz. (I know there other factions that use the title. But that does not relate to my point.) It Switched with Rav Shmuel Birnbaum. He was not a public figure and he had a small shiur in the Mir. The last ten years of his life, his shiur grew (Until he was ill.) and he gave shiurim all over. [Also, a high percentage of his talmidim became influential marbbetzai torah. With R’ Chaim Kanievsky it switched to a public figure who personifies the Torah.n0mesorahParticipantDear London,
Rav Chaim is a very special yid. I would not talk about him. But, if we go by seforim, It is not even in the top ten of today’s authors in vast Torah knowledge.n0mesorahParticipantDear Reb Eliezer,
If that is a chatzitza by netilas yaddaim, we would almost never eat bread. It clearly was an issue of the day. And, most bnei torahin Europe did not think it was issue to have long hair.n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
The Guy had lice.n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
In context, emunah peshutah means that which we believe, but we cannot behold. It is what is. If I would say it works for me, that is evidence that I do not have enough. I think you got accurate answers.n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
Who cares what they do? Welcome to genuine conservatism.OOOPS! There is no one left to invite you. All the conservatives have joined the liberals, in assessing viewpoints of other people’s outlook. A true conservative sticks his own view to his own outlook. And he sticks it to himself.
n0mesorahParticipantHere is a little ditty!
We shut down (City, state, landmark, or shop, in the U. S. A.),
Because, (same) has coronavirus,
We voted for the President,
And, POP! goes (same).n0mesorahParticipantThis is why there should be (At this point, have been.) no minyanim at all. They were getting into trouble the whole time, and did not have the proper morals to act respectfully. If all the leaders would have said no minyanim now we have to focus on other things, the outliers would clearly be outsiders.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
Millennia? Honored? Go read some Jewish biographies.May 15, 2020 2:06 am at 2:06 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1860962n0mesorahParticipantAfter what happened last night, some people need to be reminded that human dignity precedes human rights.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Abba,
Why Go to a minyan? Why daven? Zero walking. Zero cost.n0mesorahParticipantDear Kluger,
Walmart management would have wanted the clerk to put it back on the shelf. Laziness/lack of intelligence is why they threw it out. But either way, your thinking is completely irrational. If someone would steal the a/c that would be stealing. If someone pays for it and keeps it, the store has money. When the item is returned the store does not have the money, the customer does. That money was rightfully earned by the store. The customer reclaiming it without deserving it, is theft. That is not based on policy, it is common law. I have not found anything resembling your rational in Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz, or Kant. The onus of reason is on you to show your ‘rationality’.n0mesorahParticipantDear Care,
Thank you! You are very kind. Been there, worked on that. (No such thing as done.) Maybe you can point me to something new. On a different post I wrote that I am have respect for all Rabbonim. That was not my point.My point is, this is an issue of social conflict. People who follow their own paths away from the community, have to be amicable about it. If the Rav is for or against is not a factor. People have to answer to themselves first.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Gadol,
I think I agree with that part. But, to say a breakoff minyan is covered by 100 percent entitlement is a little bit mean.n0mesorahParticipantDear Social,
I would love to. Besides for food, medical, and construction, they are closed. -
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