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Ujm so put blinders on when you go out then and don’t be human

Emesdik even if a married woman is supposed to do this and sapposed to do that your opinion makes sense I’m not negating that but. I think your just projecting your anger at yourself into them. Chill. Thoughts are not action. Second the yester hara problem is more to do with the fact that monogamy isn’t a mans nature. Maybe ask your rav if you can take another wife cuz otherwise it will lead to sin

I’m very sorry ard but the Torah itself is a book that is written in the most simplistic English/Hebrew and can be understood by _everyone_ the commentary aspect you speak of is just that an opinion. Of very smart people I’m sure. But smart people also make mistakes. If you fallow someone blindly without discerning whether what they say _is_ the truth and just fallow them because they say you should you are still sadly responsible for the choices you make and the wrong ones are still your responsibility.

I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the culture of everything we do but let’s not lie to ourselves about root of where this comes from honesty and truth matter. You want to lie to yourself twist the truth. Call me names. That’s fine

Ok sorry y’all maybe this wasn’t the place I take it back

You know in the Torah shebichaav it says, choose _wise_ and _understanding_ men and _then_ it says don’t move from the right or to the left and deviate from what they say. It never said choose men learned in halacha it never said choose men who only speak of law. It says choose _wise_ and understanding men. _first_. I’m not sure what’s so hard to read a book in context. Sorry what’s the point in writing a book at all if it needs to be interpreted by a thousand people for a thousand years and none is allowed to r read the actual book. They basically manipulated an entire socioty to believe they can’t read plain English or Hebrew and interpret basic concepts for themselves. They wanted control and the entire system fallows every last red flag of manipulation sorry. “Fallow authority” “you can’t think for yourself” you can’t read it for yourself. A person needs a very grounded relationship with morality in order to live in earth, you know that right? So if someone comes in and doesn’t let you learn all that for yourself you will never be able to make choices on your own. And being able to is imperative on earth because we don’t have the luxury of having someone in our pocket telling us what to do all the time. Well we have our conscience but what someone said above thats not always a good meter. .

Wtsp you seem to have a very do or die mentality. You _have_ to. You need to. You can’t question. It’s ok to be a soldier. But you need to also relax. This is a very unforgiving way of looking at the world and that’s one thing we need for ourselves and for real life is _forgiveness_ it’s ok to be imperfect. If you never make a mistake if your never needy where does G-d come in? You need to earn and learn to connect to your creator and sometimes that comes from being human. So relax. It’s ok not to be perfect. I really really appreciate your pointers cuz they are fascinating and being wonderful points to the table, but and I hear them they make a lot of sense but I still can’t help but shake the feeling that you have a very do or die mentality. That’s not healthy. Relax. Hashem may be perfect but he created you with all of our complications _not_ to be perfect and if G-d created you and He knows how he designed you, and He loves you. And He wants what’s best for you and He cares deeply for you and wants to give you the best life _ever_ why oh why would he make you work like a souldier day and night, instead of living a real raw human life. True love and care comes from accepting others. And G-d I’m sure accepts you as you are with all your frilly human failings exactly as you are with your imperfections and your sighs for the stress it takes to do what you believe your supposed to. You _never_ struggle under the burden of your tafkid to fullfil all the roles you are tought to do. Ye right.

Growing needs to start with a foundation. A foundation of principles not rules. A foundation of love and acceptance first of who you are and what your capabilities are and from _there_ create growth. There’s a huge disconnect between heart and mind and constant battle between the yetzer and the ratzon because we are not in balance with either. We need to have a self first. Be who we truly are to play our true role on earth. Everyone has different streighths and different experiences creating different perspectives and deeper understanding of I, us, you, them and G-d our minds are a direct connection so to speak to the Devine. Our antenna is directly connected to the Devine you need to tune in to _your_ frequency to figure out what role you play here. Just like in a community there is the baker the shoe maker the store owner, the mother, the father, the delivery guy and an Amazon driver. In real life there are different roles each of us plays. And it is our unique streighths that differentiate us from one another. We are not the same we do not like the same things we don’t all play the same role. When you choose to be a conformist to something outside yourself instead of a deep relationship with morality which is something inside yourself, you become a non player character in a game that then becomes someone else’s. You forever run after trying to fit into something else that doesn’t fully fit your energy and your path in life. G-ds book doesn’t take you away from self and force you to fit into a life that doesn’t fit your energy. G-d takes your already designed human nature and _guiedes_ it through the pitfalls of life. “Do not steal for _i_ am G-d” aka do not steal cuz I am G-d and I will hold you accountable, _i_ am your authority do as I say. I’m watching. That’s wisdom. That’s _guidance_ that’s not a box. That’s not a rule thats a principle. That’s truth. “If you fall with a woman outside the camp you need to marry her” it does not say your not “allowed” to. G-d never says your not allowed to that doesn’t speak to our human nature that’s control. G-d says though shall not. Speaking to your nature. Of rebelliousness. “Despite your circumstances and what’s places in your path you will choose XYZ” cuz I am watching I love you I’m guiding you. Not your not “allowed” to you will be “punished” you “have” to. These are human laws. An add on to human nature. We already have a devinely created nature, and G-d _knows_ our nature on a deep level. Much deeper then any human being does. A misinterpretation of the word. “Do not add or subtract from _the_ word_ creates control, construction, stress and a disconnect from the Devine. Which is you. You already _are the Devine. So what are you going to choose. Choose life. Real life. Choose truth. Not conformity. Choose you. Choose everything that makes sense. Not some ideal you cannot master that’s not your own. Not everyone can be a runner some people will be a painter cuz that mimics their truth, it recognizes their energy it respects who they truly are inside. Don’t be a sheep. Be a leader. Be a doer. Be a be er. You are a human _being_ himself. First and foremost. From all the trees in the garden do not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil cuz on those days _you_ the unique version of _you_ shall surely die.

Also I want to mention one thing. You cannot connect to G-d if your not first connected to self and if your constantly running after some thing you need to do to conform your will using someone else’s rituals (they are not your own) you will not 100br connected to G-d and or to self. For example. Prayer. Is something very personal but we have made it into a ritual. I mean prayer is the thing you use when you need help. It’s not just some things you mumbled daily. Someone else’s words, someone else’s meaning. G-D Listens to everything you say and also, words have power. The earth was created through speech. You saying things you don’t mean or don’t wish into reality might actually be taking your life _out_ of your own alignment. (Just a hunch, thought, theory, don’t jump down my throught) the point is you will ask when you need it and speak when you want it. And connect when it works for you. I get and understand why we officially daven 3 times a day to mimic karbonos but again. Very nice still doesn’t resonate with _me_ and _i_ also matter in this equation. Since when do we have to take ourselves our needs our wants out of the equation. Does everyone like the same color or have the same color eyes? No

Oh and actually you cannot handle more then you can. You can only handle a certain amount and if you go beyond that you will overstress yourself leading to breakdown. People who get overstressed and push themselves beyond their capabilities actually hurt themselves in the long run. If don’t over a long period of time. We are only so much we can handle. Only so long we can stay awake. Only so long we can go without food. Imagine I tought you to go days without eating then told you how wanting food is your yetzer hara and even tho you did it you were stressed and you live with hardship internally for how much you judge yourself for being human. Alot of what G-d writes isn’t just do this or die it’s, it’s more like, if you did this, then, if you did that, then there are the consequences. Cuz we _are_ human. We _do_ er that’s what we are designed to do in some situations you will simply not be able to always choose the right thing cuz you had so much going on inside your head. Sometimes it’s your heart. Sometimes it’s your emotions. Sometimes it’s circumstances. We wouldn’t need karbonos if we were perfect

I understand that my thoughts are not the norm doesn’t mean I cannot speak them it’s very very important that we don’t live in an echo chamber and we bring differant opinions and voices to the table because life is anot a bubble. Sorry. Different circumstances equal different perspectives and different perspectives are very important for real life. We do not live in a boxed in arena we live in real life where you will have to live with your choices. It’s better to discuss real topics like adults then to shut down all dissenting opinions. So I don’t care that much that everyone believes a certain way we were not born with these beliefs but handed them to us. Which is very nice but we still have a responsibility to ourselves to filter the truth. and if you can’t speak about certain topics then what is the truth? Conformity?

Ok I hear all of your points but, first of all not everyone wants to run that marathon and usually most people do not. A very controlled lifestyle is not really designed for the average joe. Yes we are very disciplined and very aligned with doing but love, kindness and heart comes with being and alot of the laws that are written into the book of life is written in such a way that alighs with the nature of being. We need roots to survive not just doing. Getting up for shachris is _very_ hard and you may do it every day but some people who simply can’t actually find a deeper connection to G-d let’s say by doing hisbodedus and praying to G-d by living _with_ G-d more like the biblical figures did. Imagine if David hamelech got up for shachris and was a conformist you think he would have had the connection he has to G-d to write tehilim. Tehilim is David hamelechs deep relationship with faith, understanding, sacrifice, suffering and understanding the deep eb and flow of how G-d works on earth you cannot learn that ebb and flow and have a true relationship with self. And your creator by being a confromist. I understand that everyone on here believes a certain way I also value this belief system but I want to bring a very realistic way of seeing the world because as much as orj lifestyle is beieifull it does not get to the heart of what mankind _can_ be and that’s having a deep grounded relationship with self and with our creator. Being a runner is exhausting requires discipline many people do not have and if you run too much you are definitely going to depelte yourself and in the long run overstress your system. Please listen to G-d He created us and knows how he designed his creation and how much you truly _can_ handle

Woman like being pretty. Just because you get thoughts you think your not going to get thoughts maybe marry another wife if you can’t handle having only one

Count like we are in control. We go about this all wrong. When we wake up and do things the right way as in letting go and having faith maybe things will actually happen. We literally stop G-ds plan everyday cuz we try to exert control over reality. If someone is suggested to you try your best to uh put aside your crazy ideals and have a little bit faith if it basically feels right. Otherwise your making G-d work harder and making your life more miserable. We are very bad at controlling reality. Trust me how many sailboats can G-d send you to get out of the river if you say every single one is not good enough.

Well maybe that your right..but your literally talking about the entire socioty that already decided what they are doing and no your not going to be able to change the tide

Hakatan likes to live in his own echo chamber it seems. Why don’t you just stop going on the internet altogether if you don’t want anyone to speak anything other then what you want or believe

If kefira= having an opinion that everyone thinks but noone will say….then so be it. You know you think it but can admit it. Reality itself and halacha do not fit exactly. Halacha requires you to live beyond your human nature which actually can be very hard to balance when faced with real life scenarios. If people were to be truly honest with themselves I’m sure they will tell you how certain things they do is very difficult. Yes of course you will say difficult doesn’t mean it’s wrong but I believe, based off my experiences with real life. (Something you don’t have clearly) That G-d who created us knows how much we can handle and I think sometimes when halacha was written it sometimes stretches what the pasuk says to fit its agenda. Making everyone miserable. Most pesikum read _in context_ say something entirely different then what we are tought. So I’m sorry I think these things. You cannot squashe truth and there are thousands of people who literally cannot no matter what they do fit the mold. I’m so glad it works for you but this isn’t kafira this is realistic thinking. And if you can’t handle it your not really an adult. Are you? Cry me a river

Liberalism has many faces I see.

Here is what I’m talking about coming out again and again. Don’t listen to the message but besmirch the messenger. Throughout time mankind has erred and we have always erred. Here I am saying where we er and your arrogance and inability to look inward cuz maybe it hurts too much comes out. Stop acting like a liberal and bullying the messenger cuz you can’t handle that someone speaks the truth. You don’t like what I think or say cuz I think for myself. What a crime. Liberalism isn’t _only_ in the political arena I see how it’s legs and arms have made it’s way into our way of thking in all areas.

There was no commandment no offense. Lol it wasnt said outright. So first let’s not stretch here. Second reality isn’t going to change people look great in their wigs and woman want to look good that’s the point. Stop trying to control people. Also, for the record your thoughts that are triggered are your own. And woman will always seek attention it’s natural.

Wow mods censored me great. Having a difference of belief and opinion is not wrong we are all free people when we see and hear others opinions we can form our own better. No not everyone is wrong but dissenting opinions create a deeper understanding of what not to do. Your not doing anyone a favor by censuring me actually keeping them from hearing the inevitable. Goes to show your actually practicing more cult like behavior then an actual free religion. No

Oh right ard. It’s all about saying exactly what everyone else says and doing exactly what everyone else does. You have a problem I put a twist to it? Cry me a river

Halev I understand it’s hard for you to think we are imperfect shockers and great use of saying “oh this is not the forum” to do exactly what I want to say here. That’s snobbery. Listen and learn. I’m mi I’m not negating the good people do I’m talking about how people treat others who are not like them. Someone who can’t dress like them because of lack of means. Or can’t present themselves perfectly because of many different factors People like that in our very elitist socioity are treated very, poorly. We live in a _very_ elitist socioity that expects _everyone_ to measure up and if you don’t you dont it’s like your less then. We need to pivot our focus away from _things_ and being perfect and start focusing more on humanity. In ourselves in others. It’s our imperfections that make a person humble. It’s our inabilities that create connections. and yes this mentality does impact the lower levels of our society cuz those are the people who can’t because of circumstance live up to our impossible standards.

Hakatan we don’t control reality G-d does so if He decided that we should have a state via the army (how do we know, cuz it happened) then it’s His will. We don’t get to decide the timing. L