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Mods don’t post where I say I’m not orthadox I don’t need these nasty fools judging more then necvisary. They are like retards. You say jump they jump. If you say “you think for yourself”
They say “well my rebbe said I can make fun of you and talk about you” that’s not even normal behaviour at this point. Like adults should act with decency. Did these people ever grow past a 7th grade state of mind.
If your rebbe says to kill someone you’d do it too?
But why not?
Right, cuz the rebbe has no right to tell you to do something morally corrupt.
Oh but it’s ok to besmirthch someone else. No. It’s notThe moral laws of the Torah, Which is the laws of reality, need to be tought in school. Do not kill. do not steal.
Yet we teach it’s ok to steal from non Jews..
It says make your scales fair and pay your workers on time or on that day yet we make new workers wait two weeks to get s paycheck and in those two weeks they can struggle especially at a begining of a job.
Do we _value_ honesty.
Or we just value conforming to a set of rules
Do we care that G-d treat the stranger in your land fairly. Or we got so far away from morality and so steeped in the controlling rules we keep we forgot who we truly are.
I’m not negating the good we do. But we are very very far from who we are supposed to be.The moral laws of the Torah. Which is the laws of reality need to be thought in school. Do not kill do not steal.
Yet we teach it’s ok to steal from non Jews..
It says make your scales fair and pay your workers on time or on that day yet we make new workers wait two weeks to get s paycheck and in those two weeks they can struggle especially at a begining of a job.
Do we _value_ honesty.
Or we just value conforming to a set of rules
Do we care that G-d treat the stranger in your land fairly. Or we got so far away from morality and so steeped in the controlling rules we keep we forgot who we truly are.
I’m not negating the good we do. But we are very very far from who we are supposed to be.Actually no I’m not orthodox. I live by morality first and for most and what God says to do. And im a free person. Just like I’m supposed to be.
I’m sorry to inform you but orthodox people are very judgmental and it’s very hard to be socially accepted among them anyways. It’s like stepping on glass. Everything is about conformity not about having real connections.
Everyone is about control.
They control who you meet, how you meet. When to get married. How to date.
How to dress
How to think
How to breathe. How can anyone live such a hellish lifestyle
I’ve also been treated very unfairly by orthodox people. Socially. They can be very obnoxious judgemental and cruel.
That’s why I write these posts.
Cuz I see everyday and am the back end of all this horrid interpersonal behaviours.
There’s s sense of um elitism
Or “I’m better then you. Your beneath me attitude” sorry it’s nasty.
It’d generally not in the poor population but usually the rich and self obsessed. I don’t know if money or religion but definitely we have no idea how to be moral.
And how do I know because we only treat our own kind “properly”
Present yourself a little diff and your _sub_ human
It’d a disgusting way to treat people
And don’t censure me cuz I’m diff that would just be proving my point
How do I know that your “good” behaviour id conditional cuz _im_ the condition and I’m treated like scumAvram MD
Then you teach your kids that even tho everyday is special not every special day you get a treatWhy don’t you drive your old car. And cry about the fact that cars have been modernized. Why don’t you cry about the styles that _chanGe_
Music is a style.
That has changed .
Get over itSquare root. Eating ice cream makes people _skinny_ and healthy.
Fat actually makes you lose weight _especially_ fat from dairyI don’t make up my own. I observe what _is_ right and what _is_ wrong. You obviously never thought about your own belief system. Stop making up mine
Morality isn’t something that you have a an opinion about. People cannot change right and wrong. You not confirming means you living in a dream. Keep dreaming
Can I change the colour purple.
Nope it will always be that color no matter if you agree with it or not.
Stealing is wrong
Murder is wrong
Those are facts
Not oppinonsNot to be mean but, do you want to control the weather also cuz you hate the rain.
How racist. No offense this is so degrading to talk about people like that.
Does _anyone_ see why I talk about morality all day.
We are morally corrupt.
SadGuys! Their sensoring my posts. Now you can all feel good that I’m gone. I did try to post _alot_ of really interesting info. Haha sorry you didn’t see it
Do you actually _love_ the basis hamikdosh. I dont. Something tells me your trying very hard to convince yourself but you don’t even know what it is how can you fake love it
What do you think. Sacrificing your future husband not to embarrass your sister. That trumps obedience and suffering. That’s sacrifice and absolute faith
Mashiach is a frequency and a belief system. A belief system of freedom and a heart full of love. Love for G-d love for man and love for everyone….madhisch is Hanna “kill” you. Ye know that’s not a mashiach mindset.
Square root. The melech hamadiash will execute _figureitvely_ bro. Your fear mongering and out of touch belief system is a little insane. G-d and mashiach will live _with_ the times
Second, we are a very very small minority on earth. That means that just cuz everyone doesn’t conform to our “way” means we are correct.
We have a burtifull way of life. But the fact that we are a minority means we have a lifestyle and perhaps not the truth.
Morality _is_ the truth.
And truth is the truth. And
If someone believes and fallows morality
He’s a child of G-d essentially.
Well most people don’t keep shabbas so maybe then they aren’t following things exactly
But don’t forget that your belief system isn’t the only way.First of all the temple was destroyed because of “cruelty” that came about because of actual evil hatred. So whoever was at the hand of that hatred became vindicative and went to the emperor. Let’s not stretch the letter of the law to a harmless discussion.
Landon hara can unfortunatly be used as a form of censurship and control. Let people speak freely. They think this in their head anyways. And if they want to villify, you can easily come up with a comeback to put them in thie place
Let’s rephrase from controlling people. It really isn’t normal or healthy. And people will talk _anywsys_Make it to the mashiach _frequency_ everyone else will struggle in the dark mindset.
Ok let’s get down to brass tax. A mamzir isn’t a child born outside wedlock lol or a child born from a woman who is separated from her husband. A mamzir is actually a child born from a woman who _cheated_ and is still _with_ her husband. Thank you. An illegitimate Child born outside wedlock doesn’t change the child in _any_ way. Maybe only spiritually. That’s not what a mamzir _actually_ is. Thanks
Second a get is a very nice thing and has become necessary because we have to nullify all the promises made under the chuppah but I don’t believe a get the way we say is actually _necessary_. Beating up the other party to “make him choose freely” is stil a form of force. So our way doesn’t exactly fallow common sense. Maybe we should read the actual text, understand the concept and see if we are actually doing this correctly cus this doesn’t fallow reality
That’s first. The reason a mamzir is a problem is because he’s impacted _genetically_ by how he was convinced. That’s why he can’t marry anyone who isn’t a mamzir. Cuz he psychologically won’t be able to. Y’all don’t _really_ understand the Torah. So sorry
At this point gadol Hador it’s clear you can’t handle someone thinking differently then what you’ve been brainwashed with your whole life. I’m not _really_ the one who needs a refuah shelaima
You just _love_ the chains echo every time you walk
The sound is just too familiar.
It’s always people who refuse to see sense that justify their own bondageThe fact that your asking, always ask questions is because you refuse to use your own common sense. If your _really_ confused, your right, I’d say go ask a wise person
“Ujm is wise enough to come to the correct conclusion”
Really. And I’m wise enough to conclude your a loser therefore I should tell everyone about it. Your not a loser. But a+b doesn’t justify cYou don’t really know what conformity is. Do you?
It doesn’t matter how many people knew the law. It still did not fallow common sense or morality. Do you even know what morality is
Happy New Year. How did the law come about if it wasn’t written and it clearly states that we were given the ten commandments at har sinia. Also the mishnah and Talmud are _based_ off the tanach….so….
Ideology is a belief system, an agenda driven system disconnected _frrom_ reality. Im just observing actual reality and telling you the truth.
Sorry it hurtsMiddle ages. Or at the time of creation .
Do you know what basic common sense is
Basic morality
Black and white
Right and wrong.
These are basic _principles_ built into creation.
That’s not ideology
That’s truth.
Why oh why can’t you see sense.
Oh right you can’t admit the truth because either your purposefully missing the point
Or it’s too hard for you to admit it
Do you have _one_ point to refute anything I said?The farmer doesn’t need simple rules G-d already spelled it out for him and G-d rules was _already_ enough because the farmer was also given intellect discernment and his own brain to know what he needs to do.
That is an _add_ on to the law.
If G-d already wrote the law simply that means it fits with reality exactly and we will be able to use that principle as is in real life to apply to _every_ situation.. Try it and seeGafol hador. It’s not kefirah. It’s common sense grounded in wisdom. If you want to continue to lie to yourself and control the narrative and close your eyes that’s ok.
Second always ask questions.If you find 500 dollars in middle of nowhere it’s yours. Stop complicating things. If you want you can find the owner. That’s your choice but if it’s in middle of the street, it’s obviously hefker
How do you “know?”
Use your brain.
Don’t be stupid.If your Rav was chosen only cuz he knows “halacha” and not because he was “wise and understanding” his views are moot. And irrelevant.
Also I _dont_ propose deleting this thread even despite it being whatever it is. I know why it happened it’s humorous and adorable lol and funny. I can take a hit. My views will never just be “accepted” villification only makes me stronger lol. my rhetoric more true. My views more hated cuz it’s a self hatred. But, I don’t propose taking it down in the name of being “nice” to one another cuz only allowing “our way” I also a form of censorship and control. We need to learn to handle the battle and become stronger. If this broke me I’m a snowflake. Thankfully I’ve been vilified long enough that this is nothing. It’s like an humorous fly on the wall. How can this bother me lol. So relax. We need to become strong to withstand adversity.
Anywho it’s ok y’all I get it. You don’t understand. Rather villify the messager then listen to the message. Things that are too complex or too simplistic or too life-changing or too hard to come to terms with always get rejected. You can villify me and everyone else for that matter. But we all know when the computer shuts off and the only person you have to face is yourself. You _know_ the truth. It’s easier to push away reality. Then it is to accept that all the effort you put into one way of thinking your whole life, may be wrong. Or simply doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. I’m sorry guys. I’m not here to make y’all uncomfortable I’m here to stand firm in the gap of ridiculous add ons to morality that we as humans need to put in the past. It’s time to stand firm in our humanness and our understanding of self and of reality and start making choices based off common sense. What you wouldn’t accept as a relationship with anyone in your life is the same way you wouldn’t accept fallowing people or anyone, blindly. It’s not normal. It’s not natural and it’s not the way G-d designed us. And _thats_ how you know it’s not Devine
Amom I doubt highly that karaites Intpret the Bible correctly it takes wisdom and common sense. Something people have missed of old for millenia.. now with real life experience the Internet and a life full of moral choices. Like in biblical times the biblical principles of reality are coming back to life. No more lies. Only truth. It’s becoming clearer and clearer every single day. Are you on the train or you simply can’t help but keep those chains tied around your neck like the good robot that you are.
Face palm why are you guys crying about someone having their own opinion and humiliating then publicly like kids pointing at someone and laughing. Why do you think this behavior is normal. It’s not. All your doing is the equivalent of a bunch of bullies whispering to each other and then laughing cuz someone doesn’t conform to your way of thinking. Aka: lol. You guys are like cruel bullies. Sick and twisted in your self rightousness. Yes you _never_ did grow up did you. Sick.
Your trying really hard to gain some “clout” ujm but please examine your belief system most things you think is backwards. Good job tho
They hate him in a similar fashion that y’all hate me. He breaks the chains of lies that have been constricting and controlling reality for far too long and the people on the left aren’t ready for change, have no connection to truth. And aren’t ready to face reality.
You are not “required” to listen to anyone. Nobody can force anyone to listen to anything especially not a human being. Only G-d can do that and generally he does it when you do something morally _currupt_ see the difference.
What about your view or the truths view. Does any of that matter? No it doesn’t clearly
The oral law, I mean. The written law is very clearly from a Devine source. If you live a little bit it becomes self evident
It’s not that I “only” believe in the written Torah. Thanks for carpementalizing me so you don’t have to examine your belief system. How convenient.
The written Torah simply doesn’t hold up to scrutiny and doesn’t fallow common sense and morality