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Manmandi means praiseworthy, commendable, granted. G-d just blessed us by getting rid of very evil people in power. Let’s be greatful.
Only if you are brainwashed by the media can you be a Democrat….
Bayot baitar. Finally someone saying it. Redemption writings were written in very cryptic symbolic tone that only wnem the timing comes And the plan unfolds only then prophecy is understood. Until then it’s all speculation.
See ard I see something you don’t that this guy is a weak character. That he got rid of that other bad apple, what’s his face and freed society from a very horrid evil. And also that if he is allected his policies won’t stand and or it will be short time of misery like Biden and then soon he will be replaced. You need to stop looking at the now. Like the meraglem and freaking out over stuff. G-d got you.
Why are you guys even fighting about this how is it even relevant to real life
I hear alot of my way or the highway mentality. There’s these kind of jews and those kind of Jews. Ye ye your way is “only” way. No it’s not everyone has different ways of doing things. If it doesn’t go against my morality there’s no one right way only different traditions. Y’all have to stop being so stuck in a stubborn box
Ah ard I was looking for your commentary
Ujm you clearly don’t see the world. Galus _is_ ending you want to stay in it forever clearly. Hold so strong to your ideals of fear and judgment. Relax. Maybe galus isn’t just. A place but also a state of mind
I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the beauty of our mesorah the reason why I value it at all is because it is beautiful but it does not on any level whatsoever fallow common sense or read the actual written law in context. So sorry. I speak truth even if it’s a wonderful way of life
I am great enough because every single person was inbued with common sense and a moral filter. Given us by Devine right. When you read a book you use discernment on every level with every person and with every place and with everything even G-d expects you to discern for yourself what the truth is cuz he created you and knows how he designed you. Only normal corrupt individuals looking for control try to control a population through fear. And manipulation. That’s a human attribute that cannot and will never be something G-d does. So who wrote the Torah. Moshe brought it down from sania. Yes. But whoever added to G-ds word had an agenda. They cut pieces and took things that weren’t there to create some form of control. Anyone with half a brain can see it. Wakeup. Even our rituals are coming from roots in sorcery. Havadala. They use fire. Nails, cloves. That is some form of spiritual sorcery. Just cuz you want to be a sheep doesn’t mean you know anything at all. Please start to live in reality. Cuz reality itself will teach you things people will hide from you. Start learning and living same way you learned what the color green is. Go look at some trees to discern different colors and stop crying that an authority figure can’t teach you abc cuz you don’t want to learn about nuance and truth. Actual truth
Regardless ard your arguments were so weak. Maybe stop eating from the tree of knowledge of good an evil. Aka reading books. Or learning stuff not from people with experience but people with an agenda for control.
So relax it’s not all black and white and you see he defended netanyahu recently.
First of all Israel isn’t going to be exempt from scrutiny and always perfect. balance is required in your thinking nobody is perfect and if someone scrutinizes something it doesn’t always automatically mean lack of support. Actually support sometimes means telling you off.
Also defined laws are already written in the written word. Why do we need more rules. And it also says do not add or subtract to my word. So who gives us the authority to add. The point is tho I do appreciate Torah shebaal peh and our very rich heritage, the truth will always stand stronger then the manipulations of whichever authority figure had a power grab during the temples distraction cuz if not biblical figure kept Torah shebaal peh and it was only suddenly written down at a certain period in time by people who claim to be like G-ds cuz they were so “holy” and can’t be questioned, what was their agenda and why are they hiding from us the simple truth
Ard halacha is negotiable because we have free will to choose what we keep and what we don’t same way we have free will to cross the street. You can believe it’s set in stone but _nothing_ is set in stone except reality itself. The sky is blue is set in stone. Stealing is wrong is set in stone. But s persons opinion first needs to go through channels of credibility to _be_ the truth. Fallowing an authority figure blindly doesn’t make something true sorry. G-ds word can be tested. G-D doesn’t even write the Bible in first person. It’s written as a story form so you can look in it and learn lessons from it. Despite how scary it comes across it’s still doesn’t even tell you directly what to do. Only human beings that seek to control use manipulative language, fear mongering and take things out of context to push agendas to force their will on people..G-d Himself knows His creation and speaks directly to human nature. You will know the tree by its fruits. The fruits of certain opinions and passed down things is fear. Manipulation and sheep mentality. _that_ is not G-d. G-d is despline, _love_ concepts yada yada yada
Ard it can only _be_ a rulebook if it makes sense. Ard. Not wanting to argue cuz your cliquey mentality can’t handle a difference of opinion means I’m going to assume that you really have no real argument. No I don’t agree it’s truth as it takes the foundation it’s stands on, the written word and takes a lot of it out of context. If the foundation of the Torah shebaal peh is the written word shouldn’t it fallow what the written word says? Second….why also do none of the biblical figures keep the oral tradition at all? If it really was Torah misinai and why is it that all the rules of Torah she baal peh fallow every single red flag of manipulation
Ard, calling me names don’t change facts. Call me something substantial like someone who isn’t a sheep like you.
Ard. Do you have a point to refute what I said cuz I’m arguing _for_ Torah misinai and you still have no argument only insults
What mitvos do you need to force yourself to conform to that you don’t find fullffilling. A mitzvah means a good deed. What constitutes a good deed. Lighting shabbas candles or helping someone doing the right thing in a moral situation. Being good to your fellow man. Treating the stranger fairly and with kindness. These are not hard things these are principles for life that we need to do to create a socioty and self that is aligned with truth, faith, and G-d. Confirming to rules doesn’t make you a principled person. So sorry. G-ds law which is the law of good and evil doesn’t =struggle and “convincing’ yourself they are good by “learning” about it. It’s self understood because morality and kindness is something we all inherently understand. “Don’t eat a kid in it’s mother’s milk” is a concept of doing things in alignment with truth. “Keep the shabbat and make it holy” is a very simple concept aligned with simplistic living. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand simple language and concept that feed the soul. Your talking about convincing yourself about all the laws of conformity. G-d is not a conformist. He gives us principles and guides to help navigate the pittfalls of life. Not rituals. _principles_
Emisdik 13. Tottally appreciate your written word but, too much fear mongering. It’s “assur gamur” “over a lav” relax. You want people to listen to you. Noone cares about fear anymore. It doesn’t stick. Can we talk like adults and actually convince people theres a good reason to do something. Otherwise fear is not going to stick, you see. Free will is sacred and it’s a G-d given right
Ard does your belief system crumble under real scrutiny? Is that why you have to villify the other party?
Ard othering someone doesn’t make you win an argument you have a point to refute mine if not your just using a tactic cuz you have no comeback. That’s weak. Facts don’t care about your belief system. Truth transcends your bullying. You cannot escape by othering someone either you bring points to refute mine to convince reality that your correct or your just plain wrong. So sorry to inform you
To trust that G-d anointed him for a reason. And to relaxxxx
G-d did not tell you you can’t use your own brain your misconstruing what a human being said a few thousand years ago to what G-d wrote and told Moshe at har Sinai
Ard your such a sheep. Omg
No, avram the judgment is not based only on law it’s based on wisdom common sense and a very strong connection to morality and real life experience these are very different then the way we live today….also. let’s unpack what you wrote about G-ds judgment. G-d is telling you the consenquences of your behaviour there are moral spiritual consenquences of our behaviour. And no way really to get out of it if we make certain choices. Either by a Devine hand or just simply because that’s already what happens on a natural spiritual level. Do and die is an internal dialogue where someone takes reality out of context and adds fear that wasn’t there.
Avram stop accusing me of distorting anything when I said plain meaning plain context.
Wtsp I think your writing is basically saying what I’m saying but I’m perporting that you can live without the extra add one of humans and stick to what G-d said cuz it alighns and allows us to live much more in alignment with exactly what you speak of. Sorry that it’s so hard for you people to understand thjs basic _concept_.
Avram you know true prayer first of all because it’s a personal thing lol. It’s a _real_ connection to source. Comes from within. We are all connected to the Devine. If you want to call that hedonism sounds like your just hurt that it sounds to good to be true. If you don’t know what morality is or truth is then your a little lost. No offense. Ard so I’m a “kofer” I’m so “happy” now do you hagr actual points to refute what I said or will you continue to”other” me in your cliquey mentality cuz it makes you feel _so_ strong. Ard all languages have the same intentions of words. Meaning every word can be translated into every language and mean the exact same thing. So just cuz someone doesn’t speak a certain language doesn’t mean it can’t be translated in the exact manner into a language he does understand. So how bout we say the Bible is written in the most simple of all language. No _matter_ the language. No actually I would not gauge out an eye for an eye cuz everyone knows that’s _symblic_. “Fruit of your labor” is literal too. Again not everything is litteral in the Bible and you can discern quite easily when. If you have brains which you clearly try to make believe you don’t.
Are and I said that? Right
Avram sounds like your gaslighting yourself into a keeping a job you hate and not listening to yourself. That’s ok keep suffering. Remember we have free will and a playing field to make this life better for us but if you want to justify suffering go ahead.
In those days there’s was no _authority figure_ holding people accountable everyone did what was good in his own eyes. Let’s rephrase things so you understand _context_ and not use it to serve an agenda
The Bible is not filled with a bunch of rituals it’s filled with commandments, concepts stories morality and a way of life. Humans have ritualized it taken it out of context added things that were not there using language that is _controlling_ read the Bible itself with an open heart of wisdom and everything therein makes sense and it’s ease for the soul…also alot of commandments were added to and makes life harder for people the actual commandments is usually easy and much more in line with our nature.
You keep saying I’m saying do whatever you want to his world is a free playing field but its not free of consenquces I’m saying, filter things through your intellect so you know right and wrong so you can choose properly. That’s not saying do whatever you want. You cannot do whatever you want lol. And I’m using the Torah as a guidebook but reading it in context. The Torah is written in the most simple English/Hebrew theres no way you can misinterpret it unless you don’t know simple language.
Lol. I “appear” as a “kofer” therefore you’ll “other” me. Sounds very mature. At least say something mature. Like refute my points. Lol
Yes avram I think if we don’t feel something we are exempt from doing it because actually we are here to be real people with real emotions. Shachris isn’t thanking hashem out of appreciation and frankly it has nothing to do with a relationship. It’s route where you get up and _do_ something you are told to do. Repeat the same words you are supposed to repeat. You do it because that’s what they told you to do it but I’m sure if you had a different out you wouldn’t even bother. Cuz a relationship with G-d is _personal_ you can’t conform an entire socioty to serve G-d in a specific manner that’s not honoring people as individuals and that’s not a real relationship
And _thats_ what I mean, when I say you need to _filter_ things through your own intellect. Aka _think_ for yourself. You see why? Cuz if you were a blind sheep youd draw a sword for your master. If you didn’t ask yourself if you dont agree with what is said, first, you’d justify things that may actually be wrong. Avram. So again who’s your master, G-d? Who actually respects you as an individual and respects who and what your capable of it man who _alwsys_ seeks to manipulate and control
thats the thing avram I believe Hashem ever asks anyone to fallow authority blindly. Because He never designed us that way. It’s not healthy it’s not natural and it’s also dangerous, I bet if the rabanim told you to unalive someone ( well in _that_ situation you’ll suddenly start thinking for yourself, of course cuz that goes against sanity) but, if they somehow found a way to justify unaliving someone using all the lovely manipulations of interpretation and using some pasuk in the Torah to do so, would you still listen to them
Avram why would I want to bother you? Exactly? I don’t have a reason I’m just telling you the fallacy of your thinking….I’m not capable of it because why? Cuz I don’t conform to your way of interacting things? I wasn’t insulting you. Not intentionally. I think avram your glitching. Moral relativism has nothing to do with reading a simple paragraph in context. You really stretch the truth here. No offense. Finding out what is right and wrong and trying to translate what G-d wrote (in the most simplistic language mind you) is not “moral relativism” lol that’s litterlou reading a book in context without all the holler holler from other people’s translations that take things out of context. Can you translate the word “we” can you translate the word “I” so you can _also_ translate “thou shall not kill” now that we translated all things should we move up a level?
Avram how do you know if the meforshim didn’t say it and codify it for you. Who gives you the authority to translate that word for yourself ?
Hakatan the Torah is a codified book _of_ morality. Lol truth _is_ morality. You confuse Torah and morality it’s the same thing. It’s a Devine book to teach you right from wrong but also to make you into a nation of specific roles in earth. Please think about it. The way you worded what you said was as if the person himself is sperate from his responsibility from morality and the only reason he does it is cuz the book says it. No, the book says it because he has a responsibility to do it not the other way around. Your using the book as a control method not as a guide for something that’s already inherently what we should be doing with or without the book
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ופרע את ראש האישה can roughly translate to loosen or uncover her heart. You need an authority figure to tell you how your allowed to translate something….sounds like manipulation to me
You have no idea how liberal your way of thinking sounds. Let’s use for example liberal speak. They use the words “red herring” they say there’s a “specific way” to interpret certain things that if someone is doing XYZ even if it makes perfect sense they are just using a straw man…..you don’t see the pattern your using. There’s a specific “way” to interpret things. What about reading the plain text and understanding it in context. I’m ok with everyone’s interactions but I have my own too. And how do we know who’s is the truth. Not which authority tells me “how” to interpret things but whatever is of sound mind. Does that make sense. Thanks
The rules come from tradition blah blah. Do you think for yourself. And who made those rules to apply to everyone. I still have a brain and my own thoughts. do you have yours?
Hakatan can I rephrase what you said. The “Torah” says lifnei eiver so if you see someone drowning you can choose not to save them but the Torah says it’s assur. Here is where you are dead wrong. The Torah codafies right and wrong for us to always remember and hold as torch for all the nations lest they forget morality. But it is _not_ ok to pass by someone while they are drowning and not helping them. It is moraly corrupt and wrong….._thats_ why the Torah says it’s wrong.