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To always
With all due respect whenever I read your posts I come out confused by what you’re actually saying. Rabbi Soloveitchik’s opinion of Chabad from 80 years ago isn’t relevant to our discussion. The point we’re making is that Chabad sees itself as “separate but superior” to mainstream Judaism.
To Philosopher
I think that you accidentally stumbled on the root cause of the Minuval and Benedict ARSo ‘s antipathy. I joined YWN in July 2023. At that time there were several anti-Lubavichers doing battle with Shmei and others but they were getting nowhere. I showed up and, like you, used the straightforward approach, to wit, Chabadianity is not Judaism. Instead of appreciating my posts I was castigated until yankel berel came to my defense. There are at least two reasons even the supposed anti-Lubavichers despise me. One is that I’m effective and they had no idea how to deal with the primordial serpent. Second I’m not yeshivish and they’ve bought the malarkey that only a Gemara Kup can win arguments. I think they dislike you because we’re on the same side. The only side. Hashem’s side.
To always
I’m glad you commented because this is a subject near and dear to my heart. The point I want to bring out is not that Chabad doesn’t promote Agudah. That’s obvious no group promotes any other group. What bothers me is that Chabad is often praised by non- Lubavitchers and they never reciprocate. This past Shabbos one of the higher-ups at the OU, Rabbi Moshe Hauer wrote a long letter in the Jewish Vues singing the praises of Chabad, describing them as incomparable. I have no problem with that. Despite what Benedict ARSo wrote I have much good to say about Chabad. What annoys me and this was the point of the Matzav thread, is that no one from Chabad would acknowledge the amazing accomplishments of the OU. When Shmuel Butman had his radio program he would constantly say that the Almighty looks down and sees the 5000 Shlichim spreading Torah throughout the world. He had no concept that Hashem sees Lakewood. Sees Bnei Brak. He sees every Jew who’s doing His Avodah.Until Chabad accepts that all Jews are precious in Hashem’s eyes there’s no hope for them. Please respond. I’m interested in what you have to say. Apparently you haven’t boycotted my posts like the traitor.
To Philosopher
Every time either of those two clowns makes a comment they reinforce what Mark Twain said, “When you keep your mouth shut I only think you’re stupid, etc.” This nonsense that one needs to go to a yeshiva to learn how to think is an absolute joke. One of my Rebbeim is a total ilui. He’s a Baal Tshuvah. He gave up a big career on Wall Street to devote himself to learning. I don’t know when he became Frum, but few people know as much as he does and he’s among the nicest people I’ve ever met. Initially I thought that this thread pitted pro and anti-Chabad but that’s not what evolved. There are two sides. those who believe in Hashem and those who don’t. Obviously Shmei doesn’t believe in Hashem because he’s Chabad, but the same is true for the pair of anal polyps. Hashem’s seal is Emes but they lie through their teeth (pun intended.) They have no fear of what Hashem will do to them But one day they will find out and it will be too late.
To the group
There’s an interesting thread on Matzav.com. Someone asked why mainstream Jewish media covered the Kinnus Hashluchim but Chabad never publicizes events like the Agudah Convention. It’s a very good “chop” and it speaks to the point that Chabad’s end game is that all Jews become Chabad and accept the Rebbe as their savior.
To Philosopher
I’m glad to see that you’re standing up for yourself but it’s a waste of time because Benedict ARSo and the Minuval zennen umenschem (pardon my poor command of Yiddish). Boruch Hashem we’ve as accomplished the main point which is to expose Chabad as a false religion. I would like to add a point to the discussion of Yaakov Lo Mes. Now we “know” that Eliyahu Hanovi comes to every Bris. What does that mean? Who knows? What does Yaakov Lo Mes mean? Who knows? What we know is that the Rebbe can’t be compared to Biblical figures or to Neviim and Tannaim etc. He’s just a dead Rabbi case closed.
To the group
The Minuval lies again. “One hundred percent of the posters you were arguing on that topic were non-, Lubavitchers. The only non- Lubavicher was Benedict ARSo and he ultimately changed his position. When Benedict was challenged he said that he accepted Menachem Shmei’s view. You’re such a a despicable liar like when you had the temerity to say that no one ever insulted me. You should convert to Chabadianity. You’ve got the lying down pat.
To ARSo
Right, you were attacked for saying that the weather in CH is pleasant. Let’s tell the truth. You showed up on this thread on or about Sept 1st with two valid challenges to Chabad. Menachem Shmei told you how wonderful you were and said that he completely agrees with what you wrote. You bought his malarkey and then pledged your allegiance to him so that when the subject of Yaakov Lo Meis came up you stated that you concur with Shmei that this Chazal should be accepted literally. When you were asked to name a non-Chabad Rabbi who agrees with this interpretation, you refused arguing that you’re too big a scholar to ask anyone else. At the end of the discussion, you did a 180 and said that you don’t actually believe that Yaakov is still literally alive. It’s for this and other reasons that you are reviled in this thread. So keep lying to yourself that everyone else is to blame. No one except the serpent Shmei will agree with you and he’s just using you as a weapon against me. What a hopeless fool you are.
To yashardik
I want to congratulate you. You singlehandedly brought this thread back to life. You had the same effect as Philosopher when she joined several months ago and posted the Cunin video. Yasher Koach.
To Yashardik
As I’ve mentioned in this and other threads, I have extensive dealings with Chabad so I can elaborate on your latest post. Yes, Chabad believes that their Limud Torah is better than all other forms of Limmud. And they believe that their form of Davening is better than all other forms of Davening. I could go on. The point is that Chabad believes that it’s the “Master Race of Judaism” an idea that the Rebbe took from a certain Austrian. This may not sit well with some, but it’s the truth. In 1978 someone asked Rabbi Miller(this question was printed in the FJJ) why Chabad thinks it’s better than all other forms of Judaism and he answered, “Every group should think it’s superior.” I’m proud to be a Lower East Sider but I don’t consider our brand of Judaism better than anyone else’s, and I’m certain that no other group thinks what Chabad openly espouses. That was a push-off answer by Rabbi Miller who always did that when people challenged his endorsement of Chabad.. What’s interesting is that this concept was in Chabad many years before this Moshiach insanity began as we see from the date of the question.
To Yashandik
Very well said. The last few weeks have been a waste of time as a number of individuals try to “prove” that I’m insane. You’re right. The only issue that matters is whether Chabad is a valid form of Judaism or Christianity and the answer is obvious.
To Menachem Shmei
I’m amazed that you continue lying to my face. When you got a letter wrong in columnist and I wrote of instead of or that’s a typo, But he bolloxed an entire sentence. You know full well that’s not the same thing. It’s quite clear that he’s become unhinged. But I admire how you and the Minuval try to stick up for the worthless traitor.
To Menachem Shmei
Welcome back Menachem. I miss you. Frankly it’s dull without you. Maybe I’m missing something but what’s wrong with what I wrote? Oh that I wrote of instead of or. That’s a typo like you spelling columnist wrong. And sorry that was no typo by ARSO. I know the difference. BTW I’m not a Jewish Press columnist nor have I ever been. I’ve been a contributor since I graduated dental school forty years ago. An occasional column, but mostly letters. For the last few years I haven’t been in there very often And that’s by my choice. I’m friends with the editor and owner of the publication. so I can get in as much as I want. I like to set the record straight. Unlike Lubavitchers Lower East Siders follow Rav Moshe and so we don’t lie.
To Neville
Sorry that’s not a typo. That’s a deranged individual who’s so full of hate that he can’t think of write straight. I know he’s capable of properly expressing himself but his anger won’t allow it. The truth is that he’s angry at himself. He started attacking me in September for no reason stating that I was arrogant. He doesn’t need to apologize. If he just leaves me alone I’ll never say another word about him. In August Coffee addict started up with me. We went back and forth for about a week. He stopped and that was it. I actually dropped the Minuval this time because you finally learned to address a comment to me rather than write about me as if I don’t exist.To the group
Benedict ARSo wrote in his last post, “As I have writing a number of time”. So again he claims to have been a high-level Talmud teacher. What yeshiva would hire a functional illiterate?
To Benedict ARSo
You don’t read my posts but you decided that I’m schizophrenic. So now you claim to have Nevuah. I guess you have a lot of time on your hands now that you’re an unemployed bum.
To yankel berel
Don’t you realize that Benedict ARSo is beyond salvation? You probably have a history with him and he may have been a Mench once, but he’s way beyond the pale now. Nebach. I don’t need him to ask me for Mechilah. He needs to leave me alone and keep his stupid mouth shut.
To the group
The Gaon succinctly said, “The simple answer is the truth.” Obviously, I didn’t write those quotes. That some in this thread want to believe otherwise indicates their antipathy for me. We should be focused on the real issue, to wit is Chabad a valid expression of Judaism, and not on trying to expose me as a lunatic.
To Benedict ARSo
For someone who claims to be “a high-level Talmud teacher” you don’t know basic 3rd grade Halacha. There’s a Din of judging frum Jews L’kaf Zchus, but you read yankel berel’s citation of”Qwerty” and decided that I’m schizophrenic. You know full well that my Hebrew literacy is almost non-existent so how could you think I wrote that post? Chazal teach that hatred is akin to idolatry. You hate me so much that you’d believe anything negative said about me. What a Rosho you are. And you still haven’t explained why that yeshiva kicked you out on your ARSo.
To the real Jews in this thread
Lostspark is above responding to my question. Translation, he’s been checkmated. I don’t speak or write Loshon Hora. And Benedict ARSo can add to his list of aveiros in accepting slander directed against me. The fact that people go to such extremes to demonize me is further proof of how effective I am as a writer. Thank you, Benedict. Oh, my mistake you don’t read my posts. LOL
To Lostspark
Sorry to burst your bubble but I, for one, am not a Litvak. I’m a Galitziyaner Chossid, great einekel of Rav Meir Premishlan. Of course, I don’t follow Chassidic mores and neither did my father. What we see from this thread is that all rational G-d-fearing Jews are against Chabad.
To Minuval
You must be beautiful because you’re definitely stupid. Last year someone in Menachem Shmei’s thread wrote that all Lubavichers agreed that Moshiach can’t come from the dead, but they did a 180 on Gimmel Tammuz. I confirmed this with one of my Chabad friends. What does mainstream Judaism believe? We believe that Moshiach will be that person who fulfills Rambam’s criteria. Can that person come from the dead? The Gemara says yes, but I was told that the Chafetz Chaim paskened otherwise. As for your quoting “Qwerty 613” do you not understand that this is an impostor? Take a look at his first post on Nov 7. It’s written by someone who barely speaks English but is fluent in Hebrew. I’ve admitted on numerous occasions that I don’t read Hebrew sources. You’re so desperate to “get” me that you’ve lost all rationality. Then again the Vilna Gaon said that the simplest answer is the truth, “You’re a moron in addition to being a sleaze bag.”
To Lostspark
What’s taking you so long? Oh that’s right you’re busy trying to find the Chofetz Chaim’s Sefer on Shmiras Haloshon. What’s the matter? They don’t sell it in CH?
To Minuval
Let’s set the record straight. The anti Chabadskers are not the ones who said Moshiach can’t come from the dead. That was the position of Chabad until Gimmel Tammuz when they did a 180 and decided to rely on the Gemara. What the anti Lubavitchers are saying is that the Rebbe is not Moshiach at this time as many(all) of his Chassidim believe
And the reason we can aver that he isn’t Moshiach is because he didn’t fulfill Rambam ‘s criteria. Glad that I could clarify these issues for such a clear headed person like you.To Lostspark
Please provide an example of Loshon Hora that I wrote about the Rebbe. That’s post number date and time.
To yankel berel
No point in pushing Menachem Shmei. He knows he’s been defeated but since he’s an idolater he won’t admit it. Like the serpent he is he’s waiting in the bushes for some irrelevant discussion to arise so he can steer the subject. In any event he knows and the moderators know that it’s checkmate for Chabad on this thread.
To yankel berel
During the past summer I spent a Shabbos at a Bikur Cholim residence because I was visiting a family member who was hospitalized. They had numerous Sefarim including a Chabad pamphlet which talka about Moshiach. This pamphlet went through Rambam ‘s criteria. Apparently a segment of Chabad still accepts Rambam s Psak. The point is that Chabad just flings garbage against the wall and hopes something sticks.
To yankel berel
Menachem no Sheim and the Minuval act like it’s a simple thing to argue against Rambam. Maybe for Raavad and Ramban but not for some clowns with Chabad Smicha. Imagine a fifth grade science teacher challenging Einstein. What Chabad is proposing is far more insane.
To Minuval
No one said it’s Kefirah to pasken against Rambam. What I wrote and yankel confirmed is that it’s hypocritical for Chabad to brag that they’re aficionados of Rambam and then when a certain Psak of his refutes their Moshiach claim they reject it. You have a annoying habit of misrepresenting what the real Jews in this thread are saying in order to advance your crooked agenda.
To yankel berel
It seems like Benedict ARSo morphed into Minuval Chamberlain, non Lubavitchers who farenfer for Shmei. Neither one, of course will answer the question. They just dance around it, thinking we’re fooled. Well we’re not fooled and more to the point Hashem isn’t fooled. Not that swine like them care about Hashem.
To the group
Shmei has doubled down on his refusal to answer the question so let me share an answer from a different Lubavicher. Last year:some loony tune wrote on VIN, “Rambam paskens Halacha but Halacha only applies on earth, but Chsbad lives on planet Atzilus which transcends the earth.” Is it any wonder that these lunatics think that a dead Rabbi is god?
To the group
Shmei used his favorite cop-out answer to wit, “I addressed this several times already.” Of course no one will buy that so he’ll try his second favorite answer, “No one in the thread knows enough to understand my logic.” There used to be an ad, “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s.” You don’t have to be a liar to be Chabad but it surely helps. I’m sorry Menachem for humiliating you. Hey I missed you these last two weeks. You have a unique lying style.
To the real Jews
Menachem Shmei writes, “I have clarified my position on this(Chabad rejecting Rambam viv a vis Moshiach):several times here, and I won’t change my mind.” Translation: I’ve been checkmated and I have no answer.
To the group
Let’s not forget the question that stumped Shmei, “How could Chabad reject Rambam ‘s criteria for Moshiach?”
I think all of you just ๐คฃcrazy to talk about Chabad,try to be beasy with mitzvot instead so much avarot.ืืชื ืืื ืืืืื ืืืืื ืืื ื,ืืื ืืขืืื ืืืงืื ืื ืฆื ืืช ืืืืฉืื ืฉืืื ืื ืืช ืืฉืืืืช ืฉืืื ,ืืืืื ืฉืงืจื ืื ืืื ืืื,ืชืฉืชืคื ืืช ืืคืืืช ืฉืืื ืืคื ื ืฉืืืืจืื ืขื ืืื,ืชืชืืืืฉื ืืื ืืชืืื ืืขืืืื ืืขืืจืช ืืฉื.ืชืืื ืืืืช ืขืื ืืืืื.
To the group
“Why should something be a little too far just because it’s a Chabad minhag?” So why do you criticize Chabad for believing that Schneersohn is god? That’s our Minhag. Try again serpent. No one’s buying your garbage. You had ample opportunity to answer our challenges and you failed to do so Case closed. Sorry, checkmate. Time for you to kiss up to ARSo looks like he changed sides again.
To the group
Now I believe that the Rebbe will return. We see from Menachem Shmei that there’s Techiyas Hameisim. The phony returns to start some irrelevant discussion about taking off shoes at the Ohel. Nothing has changed. R.I.P. Chabad on YWN.
To ARSo
I agree with you. Maybe yankel berel is using shtikah khodsah lav Davka. What he means is that Shmei knows he’s been defeated in this thread and so he has to find a different approach. Shmei and the others will never see the light because they’re idolaters.
To the group
I guess the question to ask is, “What’s next for Chabad?” Even though there’s plenty of trash in the Orthodox world, as we saw in this thread, at the end of the day they won’t sign on to Chabad’s godless Judaism. And despite their hype Chabad isn’t getting anywhere with disenfranchised Jews. The answer is to reach out to Christians. We see how excited they got when Milei and Trump visited the Ohel. Initially they’ll pretend that they’re advancing the Rebbe’s Ben Noach initiative but eventually they’ll make them Chabad. Just my theory.
To Philosopher
Yes we’ve eliminated Chabad in this thread but our work is only beginning. You see that always isn’t impressed. He favors the Chabad lies. The Minuval is hiding in Shmei’s bunker. ARSo certainly can’t be trusted. For those who believe in Hashem there are no questions, but many if not most Frum Jews should be considered Orthodox atheists. Their actions belie their belief in Hashem.
To the moderators
You did a wonderful job allowing the truth to win out. Yasher koach.
To always
That story was clearly a lie. Chabad loves taking shots at Aish Hatorah whenever possible. Is it true that Chabad does good,? Definitely and I encourage them but until they drop the deification of the Rebbe we must fight them.
To Philosopher
Most Chareidim associate Judaism with rituals, a nice esrog, fancy shtreimels so they won’t even listen when the subject of theology comes up.To ARSo
So now you want to return to our side? Okay. I’ll “forget” what you did and welcome you back. Let me share something that Rabbi Dovid Hollander told me, “You can’t understand a Rosho, because you’re not a Rasha.” Chabad obviously will never admit defeat. I’ll give you a Moshol. Someone started a business and was introduced to an investment advisor. The fellow told him to put aside a small amount every month and trust him to invest it. They decided on $200 a month. It went very nicely. The businessman was making between 7 and 8 percent a month. After 20 years he had accumulated a small fortune, but the advisor told him not to take anything out until he retired or he’ll get killed with the taxes. Of course he agreed. One day an emergency arose and he needed to tap into the fund. You can guess the rest. He had been scammed from the start. Do you know how hard it is to deal with that. Shmei’s bright. He knows his religion is a lie but he can’t deal with it so he looks to convince people like you to join with him in his fantasy. And he pulled it off. I saw what he was trying and I warned you not to fall for it but you accepted his blandishments. He tried to do the same to yankel berel but it didn’t work.
To yankel berel
You’re obviously right. Let me share another story.More than a dozen years ago I attended the Jewish National Retreat. That’s Chabad’s annual Convention (it’s a story as to why I went). It ran Wednesday through Sunday. On Shabbos afternoon I attended a lecture but I don’t recall the “Rabbi”. He related the following, “There was a Yemenite boy, about 20 years old who wanted to become religious so he went to one of those heh, heh, heh Kiruv Yeshivas in Israel. The first day day he was there they told him that you get rewarded for every Mitzvah and punished for every sin. And when thep punish you they put you in hell and burn you with coals. The boy went through this abuse for a week and finally told the Rabbi to go to hell. Then he came to Chabad and he found love. And now he’s happy.” Obviously Aush Haftorah doesn’t use such an approach but it’s true that there’s reward and punishment. Chabad’s Rabbis laugh it off because Schneersohn told them that he eliminated Gehinnom.
To Menachem Shmei
I can’t speak for the others but AFAIC, if you admit that we’re right I’ll welcome you back to actual Judaism. You have my word no checkmates whatsoever.
To yankel berel
I like to be fair. Shmei is bright. He knows that he’s lost. Obviously he can’t admit it so he’s laying low hoping that some opening develops. He thought he could turn you against me and Philosopher. When that failed he disappeared. Moreover, the traitors who sided with him left the thread.
To the real Jews
Sue Fishkoff wrote a book called “The Rebbe’s Army” about 20 years ago. She interviewed prominent Lubavitchers male and female. Once she spoke to Rebbetzin Rivka Slonim who happens to be a fine person. She told Ms Fishkoff that when she was a little girl she went to sleep away camp and they taught her, “From 770 we are marching out.” She said the song made no sense to her because the Rebbe was totally spiritual. I understand how difficult it is for Chabad to face the truth about their leader but it’s very clear. When he was 3 years old he had a dream that he’ll rule the world and everything he did in his life was to make that Mishigas a reality.
To coffee addict
Shmei is hiding in his bunker. He finally realizes that his cause is lost. He’s afraid of yankel berel because he knows he can’t attack him like he does to me and Philosopher.Baruch Hashem the real Jews have exposed the truth about Chabadianity.
To Philosopher
I’m glad you mentioned Manis Friedman. He has enough cache to speak the truth. The same for the Jacobson brothers. They know that the Rebbe spouted Kefirah but they won’t say anything. They’re very smart guys and they could spin it in a way that it almost sounds Kosher but they refuse.
To yankel berel
Again you’re absolutely right. The thing with Chabad is that they have no concern for the truth. Moreover they take pride in lying so you can’t get them to concede to anything. We know that at 120 we have to answer to Hashem. They have a different mindset, if you catch my drift.
To Menachem Shmei
Your last post was very well written. So why don’t you use your Torah erudition to explain why Chabad rejects Rambam ‘s criteria for Moshiach? Checkmate.
To coffee addict
It’s just another example of their deification of the Rebbe. Chabad has their own Ushpizin whom they honor rather than our traditional seven. They have nine . The Rebbe is number nine and they honor him on Simchas Torah. Since there’s no longer any inyan of Sukkah he’s free to travel all over the world.
To Philosopher
Manis Friedman is a Chabad Rabbi which means he’s a puppet of the Rebbe. No Chabad Rabbi will ever exercise his free will and announce that their religion is a set of lies. According to Chabad the Mitzvahs are optional and there are no consequences if someone rejects them. As we see from this thread Lubavitchers throw themselves on a sword to farenfer all the Rebbe’s heresies.