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Sam2Participant
There is no Chiyuv of Kibbud Av V’em in what type of person you want to marry or how to find a Bashert.
Sam2ParticipantDY: While I won’t defend the poster here because he does have a tendency to do that against the more right-wing communities, in all fairness WOW did say that that was a major concern of hers in this particular community.
Sam2Participant2Scents: No, because we say that staying in the room with a Meis is an Issur of Kum V’asei and not Shev V’al Ta’aseh. So she’d be Mechuyav to leave. But what’s the case in which a woman cannot be in a room with a Meis?
Sam2ParticipantNaysberg: Chatzi Shekel is the source. It’s Assur Min Hatorah to count Jews without purpose.
Sam2ParticipantMod 42: Yes. Rav Abadi has a Tshuvah (in the first Chelek of Or Yitzchak, don’t remember the Siman number) where he says for sure it’s okay. He says you can leave a message on the answering machine. He even says that you can call a Goy from Eretz Yisrael and ask him to do Melachah.
Sam2ParticipantDY: I didn’t quite deny that premise. However, we are intellectual beings and it’s not up to us to tell other people what Muttar things they are and aren’t allowed to be inspired by. If someone would scientifically prove (or at least give very strong, if not absolute, proof) that a certain type of music was guaranteed to only induce certain responses that are not all holy then of course it would be Assur. My point is that just because a certain type of music brings up not nice responses in you (you referring to whoever wants to Assur it, not you personally) doesn’t mean it does that for everyone.
As to your comment about refined music and Kedushah, once again “refined” is a subjective term. Classical music is the most refined music out there to most. Does it contain Kedushah? Maybe some would say that it does. I don’t know. But my whole point is that what people find inspiring is all subjective and no individual has the right or the ability to define or dictate inspiration.
Sam2ParticipantYitay: I was told that the Rambam in the Moreh says that the names Jesus and Mohammed are Assur to say, but I couldn’t find where.
Sam2ParticipantPcoz: Correct. I have said that over many times here. When Rav Elyashiv was then told that that would make Bar Ilan (among other things) Assur to use, his response was “Tzarich Lefarsem”.
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: Sure it does. The picture of myself is directly dictated by my actions. Your case would be similar to turning on the light switch while the electricity is disconnected, which the Shmiras Shabbos says is okay. There’s no Ma’aseh K’siva being done because at the time when you did your Ma’aseh the object that would do the K’siva did not exist yet for our intents and purposes.
Sam2ParticipantCsar: Really? I have a copy. How did I get a copy if he never published it. And he respected public opinion. He has no problem with anything he wrote therein or with distributing it, as far as I know.
Sam2ParticipantPcoz: Rav Elyashiv holds that Shem Hashem written on a computer screen has an Issur of Mechikah.
Sam2ParticipantCsar: I would think there’s a huge movement. If there’s no screen and it’s only data being saved to a hard drive then there’s no K’siva at all because there’s nothing at all being drawn at that time. (This probably gives us another Heter for the satellite issue.)
I would assume there’s no difference. Why would there be?
Sam2ParticipantCsar: Do you know why the Gedolim asked him to withdraw it? Maybe read his second book, The Making of a Ban, before you say anything about his book or what is contained therein.
June 12, 2012 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm in reply to: Matisyahu – what are you doing with his cds? #886207Sam2ParticipantMusicaldignity: It’s nice of you to make (what you obviously think is a negative) personal judgment about me without responding to my point. Moreover, if you had been in the CR longer and seen one of my earlier posts you would know what you said is not true. So, now that that’s out of the way, can you please attempt to respond to my actual point without ignoring it by making a personal “attack”?
Sam2ParticipantI own several copies. It’s not found in stores. Your best bet is to find a friend who owns one or a Shul that has one in the library. Or ebay.
Sam2ParticipantWrite or wrong: You are missing a third possibility. One can experience the outside world and still understand what ideas from that world are antithetical to Judaism. I know of someone who would tell their kids, whenever they were watching a movie, what points in the movie contradict Halachah and Torah ideals. I know that that’s not the Derech you want for yourself or your kids, and it’s definitely a Derech that a lot of people think is very dangerous, but at this moment it seems to be the best-case-scenario Derech for your son.
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: Because in those two cases the camera isn’t doing anything at the time you’re moving. You’re doing something that will be written later, but there is no Ma’aseh K’siva whatsoever because the instrument that’s doing the K’siva doesn’t exist yet. And your comparison is off by a little bit. It’s not having someone else write what you say, it’s like having a computer program set up to type out everything you say. Would you be okay with that?
By the way, I’m not 100% sure of my opinion that it’s real K’siva, so I’m perfectly okay with passing any Shailos about this on to someone reliable who I know is Meikel (e.g. any Talmid of Rav Schachter), but I do know that Rav Elyashiv agrees with me and it makes a lot of sense.
Sam2ParticipantMusicaldignity: And who gets to determine what music has a “Jewish feel”? All of our music was “borrowed” from the neighboring Goyim at some point in our history. I once heard someone say that a certain tune he used on the Yamim Norayim was so powerful that it must have been given at Har Sinai. He said that that’s what “Jewish music” means. It was nothing more than a Russian march. You want the music they had in the Beis Hamikdash? Only listen to Gregorian chants from now on. That’s the one type of music that the Goyim stole from us, not that we stole from them.
Sam2ParticipantBy definition, only one girl can have the “best” boy, right?
Sam2ParticipantFeif Un: R’ Elazar Ben Dordaya, Avodah Zarah 17a if I recall correctly.
Sam2Participant2scents: You’re saying for turning on the motor? No. Because the fridge isn’t designed to turn on when the door is opened, it’s designed to turn on when the temperature goes above a certain level. The camera would be much more similar to, say, a clap-on light.
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: Was that facetious? What difference does T9 make?
Sam2ParticipantWho cares? We don’t count Jews.
Sam2ParticipantSqueak: I am not familiar with all of the Gemaros in Sotah, but I’ll take your word for it that they invited people in.
And your case is only true if you hold by Rav Schachter. The Rokeach brought down by the Shach and other later Poskim specifically says that someone pregnant by a Kohen is allowed to enter a cemetery because there’s a S’fek S’feka (maybe it won’t be a Bar Kayam and maybe it will be a girl). Some of the later Achronim say that the Rokeach can’t be talking about that, it’s a Taharah B’luah anyway. They say it must mean that she’s about to go into labor, and still the Rokeach says she can enter a cemetery. Rav Schachter, in B’ikvei Hatzon, explains the Rokeach’s Shittah and why it can be understood Kipshuto, and then says that since Bizman Hazeh it’s a Safek which is Efshar Livrurei B’kal by a sonogram that the Heter of the Rokeach would no longer apply and that she cannot be in a house with a Meis. So according to Rav Schachter, there’s a second answer. You are correct. There is one answer that should be Muskam by everyone, however.
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: Really? You can find me a Gemara that talks about Talmidei Yeishu Hanotzri? Rishonim, for sure. If you have a Gemara that says it please show it to me. I’d love to see it.
Sam2Participant2scents: We hold that anything specifically designed to work Al Y’dei Grama doesn’t count as a Grama.
HaLeiVi: Because it’s a Davar She’eino Miskaven?
Sam2ParticipantDY: There is music I would cringe at also. Lots of it, probably. And I’m sure there are general rules for what types of music trigger what responses in the brain. Still, everyone’s different and will get different things out of hearing different types of music.
Sam2ParticipantDY: I have never heard Rav Schachter say anything negative about Rav Slifkin. I have heard said in his name, however, that those who called him an Apikores never understood his questions or his answers. I don’t think Rav Schachter agrees with his Derech, but he doesn’t see it as being illegitimate.
WoW: Okay, it was just an idea.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: What’s the Issur in being in a house with Tzara’as? It’s just M’tamei her. There’s no Issur, is there? But you are on the right track.
Sam2ParticipantCsar: Of course not. I believe they only protest once Beis Din has declared someone a Mesareiv.
Sam2ParticipantNechomah: I meant that it’s not her choice to enter the public in such a state. Also, it occurred in the Azarah of the Beis Hamikdash, I believe. I don’t think they allowed audiences in to see the shaming of the Sotah. Who knows, maybe they did? Either way, that’s not what I meant because it’s not her going out into public like that by her own decision.
Sam2ParticipantSorry, I should have been clearer. ORA says they always advise to go to Beis Din first. The “marriage they don’t want” line meant where going to Beis Din either isn’t feasible or hasn’t worked in the past. That is entirely my fault for misstating. Or, better yet, Google “Organization for the Resolution of Agunot” and see what they are for yourselves rather than critiquing my five-second explanation of it.
Sam2ParticipantYT: Sotah’s not in public. I don’t think the public gets to see her. Also, it’s not her obligation. The Mishnah says that if she was pretty the Kohanim wouldn’t do parts of the ordeal.
PBA: Obviously, Pikuach Nefesh is Doche everything. I meant a specific case where the Din would necessitate it.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: ORA is one of these organizations that holds rallies and protests etc. that everyone gets upset about. They represent anyone stuck in a marriage they don’t want and have represented men in the past. But they are contacted by very, very few as opposed to the hundreds of women who contact them. They also ask for Rav Schachter’s Haskama on everything they do.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: Why? How many members do the BDA and RCA have? I assume that’s either pretty close to or over the 100 already. And if there aren’t enough I’m sure they’d go straight to all of the YU Roshei Yeshivah and Kollel Elyon members. That’s at least another 60 or 70, I think. If the BDA ever needed to get an HMR they’d be able to do it without much cost or trouble.
Also, I asked someone at ORA, for whatever that’s worth. I was told that in their history they’ve had several hundred women contact them whose husbands were refusing to give Gittin or go to Beis Din. They’ve had less than 10 men asked to be represented.
Sam2ParticipantHealth: No, look at your own original post. Musser Zoger very correctly made the point that the kid is not Chayav in Mitzvos. You said that’s not true because some hold that a kid is Chayav in Chinuch. That’s not you bringing it up, that’s you practically saying that it’s a Shittah that some Pasken by. My point is that that Shittah might exist, but it’s a minority Shittah in the Rishonim and no one at all Paskens by it.
Sam2Participant2scents: It certainly is a fairly normal Derech nowadays.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: Because, again, male Agunim are much rarer and have the recourse of a Heter Meah Rabannim. And I’m sure if the BDA ruled her a Mesarevet that between the members of the BDA, RCA, YU Roshei Yeshivah, Mashgichim, Kollel Elyon members, etc. a Heter Meah Rabbanim would not be hard at all for the BDA to get.
June 12, 2012 1:47 am at 1:47 am in reply to: What are the meaning of rainbow–did anyone see one on Friday? #879231Sam2ParticipantYitay: I always found that Chayei Adam’s source interesting (“I saw in a Sefer but I don’t remember where”). I spent quite a long time trying to look for the source. It is Mashma from the Gemara though. I always wondered about that too-if telling someone else about it only so they can make the Bracha is wrong according to him. I have thought that P’shat is that it’s K’ilu telling Lashon Harah on the whole world, because you’re pointing out that the world right now isn’t Ra’ui to be saved from Mei Hamabul (see, also, the story in Kesubos when R’ Yehoshua Ben Levi, I think, went up to Shamayim).
Sam2ParticipantDY: I don’t judge musical styles. I’m not at all arrogant enough to think that whatever music I find enjoyable or distasteful means that everyone else has to think that way. Who am I to dictate what someone else can find inspiring?
June 12, 2012 12:59 am at 12:59 am in reply to: Matisyahu – what are you doing with his cds? #886181Sam2ParticipantTomche: And that random thought is relevant at all why?
June 12, 2012 12:36 am at 12:36 am in reply to: Matisyahu – what are you doing with his cds? #886178Sam2ParticipantDaasYochid: There’s no Iglaei Milsa. Everyone knew Lechatchilah that people tell Lashon Harah about anyone famous. Maybe we should throw out all CDs because every famous person is being Over on Lifnei Iveir just by being famous. Don’t look at Lashon Harah, don’t listen to Lashon Harah, and if the CDs were enjoyable or inspiring or okay to listen to or whatever then there’s no reason not to listen to them now.
June 12, 2012 12:21 am at 12:21 am in reply to: Matisyahu – what are you doing with his cds? #886175Sam2ParticipantWhat, his music was okay then but now that maybe he isn’t Frum (no one knows for sure) the music becomes Treif Lemafrea? You realize the ridiculousness of that idea, right?
Sam2ParticipantDoes he know they’re Passul?
Sam2ParticipantShishi: A Tallis may only be put on top of a Sefer Torah in a case where it’s a Kavod for the Torah (meaning it would be a Bizayon to be left sitting uncovered).
Interestingly enough, your comment made me realize that public Taleisim in Shul probably also have a Din of Tashmishei Kedushah because they are occasionally used to cover the Sefer Torah.
Sam2ParticipantYour walking in front of the camera is a Ma’aseh K’sivah. And R’ Elyashiv says that for sure. I know someone who asked him and he responded that you cannot walk in front of a digital camera (on purpose; otherwise it’s a Melacha She’einah Tzricha L’gufah) held by an Israeli on second day Yom Tov because walking in front of it is a Ma’aseh K’siva.
Sam2ParticipantHealth: You missed my point. My point was that just because the Shittah exists does not mean that it’s relevant or that it necessitates being brought up.
June 11, 2012 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm in reply to: What are the meaning of rainbow–did anyone see one on Friday? #879229Sam2ParticipantPeople really need to learn Maseches Chagigah. Also, see the Chayei Adam (I think it’s by the Bracha on the rainbow in his Klal on Birchos R’iyah).
Sam2ParticipantZaidy: It could be that was a Remez, but Yeishu is also short for Yeshua, which was most likely his real name. Also, the Gemara refers to him as Oso Ha’ish (maybe, this is all not so cleay) and not as Yeshu (though whether that’s the original or a self-censored version we can’t say). I think, though, the earliest Jewish references to him as Yeishu are from the Geonim/Rishonim, well after the name “Jesus” was well known.
Sam2ParticipantWoW: After reading more of this, I think it might be very good for your son if you showed him Rabbi Slifkin’s blog (rationalistjudaism). It might be something that he can greatly enjoy, appreciate, and show him a side of Judaism that he might love.
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