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Health: The opinion of the Rishon(im) who say that Chinuch is on the kid is very minority and is very Dachuk (to say the least) from many Gemaros. Just because people can make good Lomdus out of it does not make it a Shittah that has Halachic relevance at all.
Rav Schachter apparently has a Heter for it that he allows in YU for security reasons. Part of it, from what I heard, is that the recording is erased less than 24 hours later. I don’t see why it’s not K’siva D’oraisa (and I heard that R’ Elyashiv says it is).
*By Eidah Chareidis I meant Nachal Chareidi. Mods, if you can fix that in my second-to-previous I’d be much obliged. Thank you.
PBA: I once said that to someone. I would be very insulted if I was asked to sign one of these prenups because it would show that the girl I’m marrying doesn’t really trust me not to be M’agen her, which is a huge deal. But what can we do? Those who take advantage of their ex-wives have caused problems for the rest of us.
PBA: I found it very ironic that the same type of blog that was put down for saying that R’ Shteinman endorsed Nachal Chareidi (maybe the same blog, who knows?) is used as the main source for what should be a major P’sak by R’ Elyashiv.
Oomis: A Tallis (and Tzitzis) have no Kedushah. They are Tashmishei Mitzvah. One should not put Tashmishei Mitzvah on top of Tashmishei Kedushah.
PBA: Do you actually know that Rav Elyashiv calls it a Get Meuseh? Do we have a source other than Joseph here?
Tomche: You’re misrepresenting the prenup. Here’s what it says, from the website:
“What Does The Prenup Say?
The Prenup essentially contains two provisions:
1. Each spouse agrees to appear before a panel of Jewish law judges (dayanim) arranged by the Beth Din of America, if the other spouse demands it, and to abide by the decision of the Beth Din with respect to the get.
2. If the couple separates, the Jewish law obligation of the husband to support his wife is formalized, so that he is obligated to pay $150 per day (indexed to inflation), from the date he receives notice from her of her intention to collect that sum, until the date a Jewish divorce is obtained. This support obligation ends if the wife fails to appear at the Beth Din of America or to abide by a decision of the Beth Din of America.
Each of these provisions is important to ensure that a get is given by the husband to his wife in a timely manner following the functional end of a marriage. The first obligation grants authority to the rabbinical court to oversee the get process. The second obligation provides an incentive for the husband to abide by decisions of the rabbinical court, and give a get to his wife once the marriage is over and there is no hope of reconciliation.”
It makes sense to force them to go to the BDA because the BDA trusts itself. They can’t trust every random “Beis Din” made up of three “Rabbonim”, who could be biased in either direction. And they don’t have to go in front of the BDA, just in front of a Beis Din approved by the BDA.
It also clearly states that the wife loses this if she ignore Beis Din at all. And we don’t need to force her to accept a Get because if she refuses then they can give him a Heter Me’ah Rabannim, which is not a recourse available to her.
The $150 a day that they make him pay is the Mezonos that he is Chayav to pay her anyway. The Nachlas Shivah says 10 gold coins, if I recall correctly.
Also, your quote that “The BDA is… known to employ a feminist agenda and often eschew Jewish Law in favor of employing non-Jewish law.” is pure Motzi Shem Ra on big Talmidei Chachamim. I’m shocked the mods let that through. Rav Schachter explains precisely when and how what should be done in Dinei Mamonos. You being Motzi La’az on him is laughable.
PBA: That is a terrible and destructive attitude. On that we say “Shelo L’hotzi La’az Al Gittin Harishonim.” Actually look at a Halachic prenup, show it to your Rav, and honestly try and tell anyone that there is any possible Chashash of Get Meuseh with it. You won’t be able to.
PBA: Laws about allergy information are very severe and explicit nowadays.
Presumably it depends on how he comports himself. It’s probably possible to get on the show without hearing or seeing anything inappropriate, though I am not familiar enough with it to say that for sure. If it’s not possible then it’s probably not a good thing.
BTGuy: You are giving religious meaning to an object that has no inherent meaning. You are treating a black hat as if it has a level of Kedushah. And it should be the opposite. It should be a Tashmishei Mitzvah, not Kedushah. And if one (mistakenly, if one doesn’t ignore the first word of the Mishnah B’rurah’s sentence) that a hat is necessary for Davening then even the lowest of the low should not be exempt from that.
Itche: That’s the second time you’ve posted that wearing a hat indoors is rude. To you I respond Taz O.C. 8:2.
Ohr Chodesh: Rav Schachter is perfectly reliable on when it’s okay to force someone to give a Get.
147: That’s just not true. Beis Din has complete permission to beat people in necessary circumstances.
I have nothing against wearing a hat. I wear one myself. I have a problem with thinking that wearing a hat requires a certain “Madreiga” or that there is an inherent spiritual growth or something better about wearing a hat.
Hence, my comment that it might look a little weird. 🙂 Not that it matters though. There’s nothing wrong with looking a little weird.
Naysberg: It’s nice of you to repeat something that’s been stated. I gave you a potentially overriding Halachic concept. You can’t just deny the second concept by restating the first. Why wouldn’t it apply?
BTGuy: That’s a serious complaint that a lot of people have against that community.
That’s not a Giyur Lechumra. If your mother was never born Jewish and only converted reform, then she is not Jewish. Reform conversations do not, and never did, contain Kabbalas Ol Mitzvos and are therefore invalid.
And yes, we treat someone who underwent Giyur Lechumra as a Ger for some things. I do not believe that we allow a woman who underwent Giyur Lechumra to marry a Kohen, for example.
I once did the math but don’t remember the answer. I believe a Gemara (maybe Rashi Al Hatorah, but somewhere) says that Moshe Rabbeinu was 10 Amos tall, had a 10 Amah axe, and jumped and cut off Og’s ankle. If we take this Medrash literally, that means that Og’s ankle was 30 Amos tall. I asked a doctor what percentage of the body goes up to the ankle and calculated from there. It was somewhere around 1/15th the height, if I recall correctly.
Naysberg: So ask your Rav if it’s a usable S’vara. Why, by the way, do you think it’s incorrect? Kavod Habriyos is Doche D’rabannans. Since, in this case, we obviously see that it disgusts the public, why wouldn’t it be applicable?
Sam4: I am unclear with the Shulchan Haleivi but I see no reason why mesh itself would be a problem. It’s woven, isn’t it?
Pcoz: Do you mean OC 5? There is no OC 8, but OC 5 is in volume 8.
Unclear. I once heard someone say that the Gedolim are made by having followers who hold by them and not necessarily by the biggest Talmidei Chachamim. There are no criteria for being a “Godol”. Nor is there any Halachic Nafka Minah for being a “Godol”, so I’m not sure that a definition is necessary or relevant. It’s one of those “you know it when you see it” things.
Naysberg: Why is the pocket Assur? I think my Gadol Kavod Habriyos argument is correct.
Health: I don’t know off the top of my head. I do know that Rav Schachter quoted a Noda Bihudah that attacks the whole premise of the Sefer Abudraham. Part of his Ta’ana was that Davening isn’t in an inherent Lashon Hakodesh because it’s not in Biblical Hebrew. The Abudraham would say back that since it was the spoken Hebrew of the time of Chazal it counts as Lashon Hakodesh.
Sushee: Don’t forget. And if someone does actually forget, then they’re a Misasek.
Itche: Those are Rov cotton, right? It’s B’feirush that you go Basar Rov by determining if it’s a Begged or not.
Yitay: Ooh, that is a good additional problem. Never thought of that one. But it’s only Shayach where there’s no Eruv. I’m not sure it’s a problem though. Even if it’s not a Begged it’s still a Malbush, and if you want to assume that at the very least there’s a Safek whether it’s a Begged or not (though in America K’negged an accepted P’sak of R’ Moshe I don’t know if the opposing Shittos can even count to make this a Safek) then wearing the Tzitzis to be Yotzei the Safek should count as a Noi.
I’ve been thinking about this all night, and I’m very hesitant about it, but I have a feeling that in this case one might be allowed to put the tissues in your pocket because Gadol Kavod Habriyos…
Chulent: That’s not the important Chasam Sofer. He says that Kavod Hachayim beats not doing Aveilus, and that if an “important family” will be Bazui because of it then you do a normal Kevura and everything. Since we can’t really define what an “important family” is, almost every Rov Lema’aseh will say to not treat it like a suicide so as not to embarrass the family.
You ignored the “common usage” part of that post.
Chulent: Didn’t you start posting here well after Mod-80 retired?
OOM, I got one for you…
By the way, it’s a common misconception that the issue with mesh is that it’s mesh. That’s not the problem. Mesh (the style) is woven and is a Begged. The issue is that the mesh Tzitzis are made out of nylon, which is a synthetic material. If I would make “mesh” Tzitzis out of cotton then everyone agrees that I can wear them with a Brachah. The Machlokes I mentioned above is about Tzitzis made from synthetic materials.
Ohr Chodesh: Thank you for ignoring the whole post where I say,
“I would never Ta’ana that Ben Yehudah making up words makes them Lashon Hakodesh. I don’t even really hold that modern Hebrew is LK, but I think thinking that it does is a valid Shittah with what to rely on. My point was that if modern Hebrew became LK, it did so because it became common usage among a very large percentage of Jewish people (whether as a first language or a second), not because Ben Yehudah invented the words.”
PBA: Be careful how you talk here, by the way. Just because you disagree with him it doesn’t give you the right to mock or reject someone who, by all accounts that I’ve seen, is a Gadol Batorah.
Chulent: Look at that Siman in the SH”A and all the later Poskim and T’shuvos (except the Besamim Rosh who we ignore but pay special attention to the Chassam Sofer-I don’t remember which Siman off the top of my head). Lema’aseh, we never treat anyone as a M’abeid Atzmo L’da’as for the burial differences. The cases in which it can happen are incredibly, incredibly limited.
There’s no problem whatsoever with wearing them. Mimah Nafshach. If they’re a Begged then you’re fine. And if not then they’re not Chayav in Tzitzis. The only issue with them is whether or not it’s Muttar to make a Brachah on them. R’ Moshe says they’re not clothing and that making a Brachah on them is a Brachah Levatalah. The Tzitz Eliezer says they’re okay, if I recall correctly. It’s very, very hard to be Meikel anywhere on an issue like this K’negged Rav Moshe, and I’d even be willing to say that anyone who wants to wear them in America doesn’t even have a legitimate Shittah to rely upon to make a Brachah.
Health: That is an entirely valid Shittah. However, as I mentioned above, it is seemingly a Machlokes between the Nodah Bihudah and the Sefer Abudraham as to whether or not Lashon Hakodesh can change based on how people speak (and based on whether Davening is inherently Lashon Hakodesh etc.). You perfectly explained the Shittah that Halachic Lashon Hakodesh predates the world and has complete mystical meanings etc. However, there is an opposing Shittah that Lashon Hakodesh can change like any other language and that the Ikkar importance of Lashon Hakodesh is that it’s the language the Torah was given in and that K’lal Yisrael speaks. So according to this Shittah, I can hear the claim that modern Hebrew has the Halachic status of Lashon Hakodesh.
If you know there’s no Eruv and you don’t have a Tallis bag, why not put a bag near your seat before Shabbos so you can put your tissues in them on Shabbos?
147: Why is being an Ohev Yisroel mutually exclusive with being an Apikores?
Chance: You are hijacking a serious thread with a ridiculous personal opinion. You can’t blame all of everyone’s problems in life on vaccinations.
147: Yom Kippur is an Issur Kareis, not Missah.
And probably not. People don’t think it’s okay to text on Shabbos; they just don’t respect Shabbos. I think even teenagers still respect Yom Kippur. Those who are “frum” but only text on Shabbos probably wouldn’t on Yom Kippur, not that that made them any less of a Mechalel Shabbos.
Havarka and 147: No, because for Halachos based on Sakanah it’s entirely valid to say “Puk Chazi May Ima Davar” and “Keivan D’dashu Bei Rabim…”. And Havarka, putting an Issur based entirely on Sakanah (which might have the status of an Issur D’rabannan, I’m not sure of that, but presumably the only Issur is the Sakanah part) on the same level of Shabbos is ridiculous and you know it.
Loyal Jew: First you say that no one here is on the level to hand down a Psak, then you have the arrogance to presume to know what ever Rov and Gadol thinks. How your own post didn’t sound ridiculous even to you I have no idea.
Health: I would never Ta’ana that Ben Yehudah making up words makes them Lashon Hakodesh. I don’t even really hold that modern Hebrew is LK, but I think thinking that it does is a valid Shittah with what to rely on. My point was that if modern Hebrew became LK, it did so because it became common usage among a very large percentage of Jewish people (whether as a first language or a second), not because Ben Yehudah invented the words.
Havarka: It’s a Halachah based on a Sakanah that we see doesn’t exist Bizman Hazeh for whatever reason. There is definitely a strong support to rely on for those who are not Makpid on it.
Health: Not commenting on anything in particular here, but I don’t think being an Am Ha’aretz saves one from being Megaleh Panim. It’s one thing to be wrong. It’s another to take whatever knowledge you know (be it little or much) and distort it.
Health: You think when the Mishnah or Gemara uses Hebrew words that aren’t in Chumash that the Ba’alei Hamishnah or Gemara added them personally? It was just representative of the spoken language at the time. Ben Yehudah himself may not have been someone to standardize a language. But when people start speaking that way it’s what the language itself becomes.