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February 10, 2016 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm in reply to: Gut chodesh! Are we supposed to be marbeh b'simchah now? #1137274
That’s why we don’t pasken from Gemara. Take some time and read the teshuvos. (Sh’eilas Yaavetz, SH”T Teshuva Mehava, an others, some referenced above.)
It’s not so simple.February 10, 2016 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm in reply to: Gut chodesh! Are we supposed to be marbeh b'simchah now? #1137271
Many earlier Poskim deal with this question. As for the psak halacha:
Reb Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt”l says it is only in the second Adar. (Hlichos Shlomo in footnote)
Reb Yitzchok Zilberstein (Chashukei Chemed on Meseches Taanis) quotes his father-in-law Reb Elyashiv zt”l also as leaning to say it is only in the seocnd Adar.
Reb Shmuel Vozner st”l in Shevet Halevi (Volune 10) also says it is only the second Adar, athough he says some are noheg in the first Adar too.
Reb Chaim Kanievsky shlita- Some quote him as saying Mishenichnas Adar is also in the first Adar. However, Rav Dardak in his Sefer Yismach Yisroel says that Reb Chaim told him only in the second Adar. When asked about the others who quote Reb Chaim differently, he said that when he wrote his Sefer, he asked Reb Chaim what to write l’hahalcha l’maaseh, and Reb Chaim responded only in the second Adar.
As an aside, most poskim do not make a big deal about the simcha which is included in this mitzvah, even in the second Adar. First of all, it is not brought at all in Shulchan Aruch. The Gemara only says that it is nogea if one has a din with an akum, he should try to push it off until Adar. Reb Shlomo Zalman says that one should remove worries and sadness from his heart during Adar. While Reb Chaim shlita also does not make a big issue out of the simcha this halacha mandates.
Almost all guys nowadays use the word “geshmak”. It has nothing to do with being Yeshivish. The Yeshivishe guys say “geshmak”, and the non-Yeshivsh guys say “it’s freekin’ geshmak”.
I am in that world and know it well.
Just be very cautious. There is a lot of very scary stuff going on in the teenage world nowadays. Even in Yeshivos. So while trying to protect your child from words like “geshmak”, he might get exposed to many things you would have never dreamed of when you were a teenager. I cannot specify on this type of forum, but I can warn you. bIt’s better to send to a sheltered place like Philly, who also take English seriously, then to send to other places, even if your son might use words like “geshmak”.
I do not know anything about Chofetz Chaim. That might be an option. However, as mentioned above. it is a little cult-like. They have their own way of thinking and their own way of living. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. Just different.
If the flavorings are problematic, which the Kashrus experts say they are, then it is a problem. You are swallowing those flavors. That is why people choose their flavor of gum. They don’t want to chew on a tasteless rubbery object.
Toothpaste might be different. Toothpaste is not really edible at all, and we try to rinse and spit out all the toothpaste. The flavoring just masks the icky flavor of the toothpaste, but does not make the toothpaste edible. If too much is digested, it would make a person sick.
I don’t know if I am allowed links, but both the OU and the cRc have excellent articles explaining the difference of opinions about toothpaste. Some hold it needs to be kosher, while others do not.
Although the Dayan of cRc holds toothpaste does not need to be kosher, they do list the kosher toothpastes on their site for those who are stringent. It is on their list of “Over the Counter Medicines”.
Gum, however, needs to be kosher. PERIOD.
For the toothpaste articles, you can google “does toothpaste need to be kosher?” and you will find the OU and cRc articles.
Or, if I am allowed to link: For the OU article, you can look here https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/kashruth-issues-of-toothpaste/ and for the cRc article, over here http://www.crcweb.org/kosher_articles/status_of_toothpaste.php
You say “if I trust the VHQ and the Five Towns Vaad (which I do), I can eat almost anywhere….” That’s true. And that’s the problem. With them, you can eat anywhere…
BTW, maybe ask their mashgichim and their administrator if they would eat by the establishments they visit and certify.
Ever heard of ???? ????? And besides, don’t think it’s a miracle if it’s for just 9 days!
Either you missed the post where I quoted Reb Shlomo Zalman Auerbach zt”l word for word, or you don’t understand Hebrew….
Your comments are not even worthy of a response. Either you are trying to provoke DY and feivel, or you are seriously misguided.
But I must admit, I truly appreciate your comments. It helps me realize how lost and confused we are in this bitter galus, and how badly we really need the Beis HaMikdash to be rebuilt!
That’s not fare! It is simply wrong to take the Aruch HaShulchan completely out of context!
You quote only part of the last line of the three paragraphs. I will judge you favorably. I will assume somebody showed you just that paragraph, without showing you the paragraph preceding this one.
In the previous paragraph, the Aruch HaShulchan speaks about how in his generation people have began to be ????? ?????? ????? ???? ???. He writes how the bathhouses used to be closed all nine days, including Erev Shabbos. He writes ??? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ?? ????.
In the part you are quoting, he is speaking about somebody who soiled himself and needs to remove the dirt. He needs hot water to remove that dirt. He is not talking about somebody who feels yukky and needs a shower. Nobody permits hot water for that! The Aruch Hashulchan does not even permit showering for Shabbos!
Sorry, I did not read your “online” sorces, but all the contemporary Poskim quote the Aruch HaShulchan as being strict on this issue.
Let’s not forget how this thread started. It started with a comment “Can the man that stands next to me in shul and absolutely stinks have a shower. We don’t all have to suffer for your aveilus.”
The implication of that comment is that there is no room to be “stringent”. The comment was shaming anybody who is.
Let’s get it straight. Not taking a shower is not, as you call it, Lifnim MiShuras HaDin. That is the Din. Or as you call it, the Ikkar Din. PERIOD.
There are leniencies which allow certain showering in certain circumstances with certain guidelines. But those are what we call “kullas”. And not all poskim are so happy with them.
So to clarify: There is always Din, Lifnim MiShuras HaDin, and Kullas. Din is not to take any showers. Lifnim MiShuras HaDin may be not to even wash your feet for Shabbos, only hands head and face with cold water and no soap. A Kula might be to take some kind of shower during the week.
Just remember- if you do take your shower during the week, there are rules. Some say only every other day or less frequent than what you are used to. Some say not to wash or immerse the entire body at once; only part by part. You may only stay in the water as little as necessary. And maybe don’t use your best body wash and shampoo that has your favorite fragrance. Remember, you are only allowed to “remove the dirt”, no pleasure is permitted!
???? ????? ????? ???? does not usually apply with regards to the laws of the nine days and tisha b’av.
Just to give you a little taste of the true Torah perspective, I will quote word-for-word what Reb Shlomo Zalman Auerbach ztl writes with regards to washing oneself during the Nine Days:
??? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ????, ?? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ?????, ????? ??? ??? ??????? ???’, ???? ?? ?? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ????… ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?’?
He clearly says that the point of the aveilus is to feel the pain, not merely not to have simcha.
Have you learnt the halachos? Have you read the seforim of the contemporary poskim? Have you spent any time researching the different opinions? Do you realize which Gedolim and Poskim you are calling pathetic?
Clearly not. Your opening statement “the halacha is you are not supposed to have simcha” gives it away. That is not the point. The point is that we are in aveilus. Mourning is not merely the lack of simcha. It is much more than that. When the M.B. says we are supposed to cry for half an hour a day, is that merely to prevent us from having simcha?
The poskim say that in the last generation, when they did not have air conditioning or fans, that the bathhouses were closed for all of the nine days, including Erev Shabbos! I am sure that did not feel too good. Do you consider that pathetic?
I feel for you and encourage you to speak to you Rov for proper hashkafic guidance.
If you learn the Halachos, you would see that Halacha requires us to lead a pretty depressing life during the nine days. No clean clothes. No haircuts. No simcha. No dancing or music. Minimizing business down to what is required for bare necessities. We are supposed to take some time out of each day to cry about the Churban….
In strict Halacha (M.B.), there is no leniency for showers. Not even for this coming Shabbos. We are only permitted to wash our head, face, hands, and feet with cold water for Shabbos. No soap or shampoo.
The leniencies were created mainly for our pampered desensitized generation here in America who can not handle the strict halacha. In the previous generation, nobody even asked to take a shower during these days.
I had the privilege to speak to an older lady who lived in Europe. She told me that where she lived, the entire atmosphere was different during the Nine Days. She related that when you walked in the streets of her town during this time period, there was a feeling of sadness, depression, and even fear in the streets. Everyone, even the regular “baal habayis” felt the Churban. They realized what these days mean for our Nation.
So why not the rest of the year? Why just the Nine Days?
The Gemara in Bava Kama 59b relates the followin story.
Eliezer Zeira was walking around the streets of Naharda wearing black shoes. He was wearing the shoes of mourning during the year. When he was asked why he is wearing those shoes, he answered he was mourning the destruction of Yerushalayim. At first, the people from the Beis Medrash of the Reish Galusa were upset at him. They asked him “Are you such an important person that you feel you can mourn the destruction of Yerushalayim all year?” He answered them “Yes. I am a Gavra Rabah!” I am a great man. Then he proved to them that he was a great Talmid Chochom.
There are many different explanations to that Gemara. But one thing is clear. A regular person is NOT ALLOWED to mourn the destruction of the Beis Hamikdash all year. Only a Gavra Rabah can do that. We are only given a small time period each year which we have the opportunity to mourn our great loss.
Perhaps, Chazal were afraid that if we were allowed to mourn all year, we would lose the feeling of sadness that we are supposed to have. We would get so used to the motions, they would be meaningless.
But during this period of time, we are all Gavra Rabas. We are all allowed to mourn the destruction of the Beis Hamikdash. Why let that opportunity go to waste!
Let us remember the famous Shla Hakodesh. We all know that this year, we will not be fasting on Tisha B’av. We do not mourn on Shabbos. We will push off the aveilus until Sunday. But why? Isn’t the Churban Beis Hamikdosh important enough that we should fats on Shabbos!?
The Shla offers an amazing incite. He says every tear we shed over the Churban, is actually building the Beis Hamikdash. When we cry enough and enough tears are collected, the Beis Hamikdosh will be completely built.
But on Shabbos, Binyan is one of the 39 melachos. We are not allowed to build on Shabbos! Therefore we cannot cry on Shabbos. That is why we postpone the mourning until Sunday.
Maybe if we stopped looking how to get out of the aveilus, we would feel the Churban the way we are supposed to. Maybe we would even shed some tears, build the Beis Hamikdosh and get out of this bitter galus quickly!
Not all Poskim agree it is permitted to shower at all. And even if it is, it not permitted to take a regular shower. There are levels; cold water, without soap, not entire body at once etc.. A Rabbi must be consulted.
The Halschic system permits a shower for those who are an “istanis”, those who cannot handle the lack of a shower and therefore ask their Rabbi for a leniency. My point was, that if we really felt the Churban, we would not ask for a leniency. We would not even feel the discomfort of not taking a shower in perspective to what we really should be feeling during these days.
Just saw this post. The opening post is extremely bothersome! “We don’t all have to suffer for your aveilus.”
First of all, it is not just “his” aveilus, it is all of our aveilus.
Secondly, the answer is yes, you also have to suffer. Do you not realize the Beis Hamikdash was destroyed?!? Do you not realize the Shechina is in terrible pain without a place to dwell? Can you imagine the pain of the Shecchina observing who is in His dwelling place?!? Do you not realize how much we are suffering in galus without the Beis HaMikdash? Do you realize how many of Hashems children our suffering and/or completely lost as a result to the Churban?!?
We are only asked to mourn for 9 days out of the whole year. Are you mourning properly? Do you feel the Nine Days? Do you have a constant reminder of the aveilus throughout the day? Are you doing anything different?
Of course there are poskim to rely on to take a shower. But is that really what Hashem wants of us? Do you think that the smelly guy feels good not taking a shower for a week?!? Let me tell you, I haven’t taken a shower yet and I feel disgusting 24/7. I don’t take my mind of of the aveilus for a moment because I have a yucky feeling. And I know the Shechina feels even yuckier in this bitter galus!
Maybe think about how many Yidden throughout our Galus suffered and couldn’t take a shower for more than a week. They also couldn’t eat sleep either!
Do you know why that person next to you smells?!? It’s because you DID take a shower. If we would all be mourning properly, we would all smell the same and wouldn’t be paying attention to the person next to us. We would be standing in Shul crying “V’l’Yerushalyim Ircha B’rachamim Tasshuv”! We would all be wailing in tears through the entire tefila begging for the end of this bitter Galus. We wouldn’t even notice the person next to us, certainly not how he smells.
Galus smells. We need to get out of it quick!
?? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ????? ??????. Let’s mourn properly so we can rejoice with the building of the third Beis Hamikdash speedily in or days!
Gevinas Akum is prohibited. Period. Cholov Stam cheese is not Gevinas Akum. It is cheese made with Cholov Stam, supervised by a Jew, making it Gevinas Yisroel made out of Cholov Stam milk.
1) apushatayid- You are simply mistaken. Without Reb Msshe zt”l’s heter, there are only two type of milk; Cholov Yisroel which is kosher, and Cholov Akum which is not. Reb Moshe is the one who classified the milk of the companies as Cholov Stam, not Cholov Akum, and permitted the milk, albeit not as a l’chatchila.
2) It is important to note, that the heter of butter no longer applies. Although many poskim permitted butter because it can only be made with cows milk, nowadays their are dairy additives which are added to the butter. Those additives/ingredients are Cholov Yisroel sensitive, and therefore for those who are makpid on Cholov Yisroel, there is no heter to eat Cholov Stam butter.
DaasYochid, Now I see you are correct. He writes on the letter that the ones with stickers are under ????? ?????. HOWEVER, that does not mean there is any difference in the product. All that means is that he is in the building during production. Riccola does not change their ingredients or their sources when he is standing the plant. A company that size rarely changes their formulas ever.
I have spoken with European Rabonim who visited the plant. They had real issues with the sources of some of the flavorings. That is why there are “lists”. When these Rabonim go in, they create a list of non-problematic flavors.
yehudayona- cRc Chicago would never declare “not recommended” on any item which has any kosher certification whatsoever. Even a non-frum one. They would get sued for that. That is why on their Directory of Kosher Agencies that have a disclaimer “The fact that a particular agency does not appear on this list does not imply that the cRc has determined it to be substandard.” That is so they will not get sued for leaving someone off their list.
P.S. The certifying agency for Ricola is not on that list.
Syag Lchochma- You obviously did not understand my post.
With stickers and without stickers is exactly the same. They are all under the same supervision. All of them also have the issues I mentioned, both with stickers and without. There is no difference between the ones with the stickers and the packages sole in Walmart, besides the price.
DaMoshe, The certificate provided on their website is signed by the same person who signed the stickers. The stickers are merely a marketing scam to get people to purchase the product from a frum store instead of CVS or Walmart.
That being said, there are different standards in Kashrus, and not all Ricolas meet everyone’s standards. I have spoken to other agencies in Europe who have visited the plant and were not happy with the Kashrus standards there.
Many American hashgochos do not accept all Ricolas, only specific flavors. A list can be found on the cRc Chicgao’s website.
nishtdayngesheft, They do not have any certifiers. They are not certified at all. They list those certifying agencies as examples of what might be found on their products.
They also list “K” as one of the certifiers they accept and sell. This company is obviously not run by frum people. They are a bit misleading. I wish there would be a way to let everyone know that although they sound like a Kosher company, they are not.
But someone should contact the frum companies who sell them their products. Especially their rainbow products. I am sure they would not be happy knowing people are buying/selling their products to celebrate toeiva.
I hope this question is theoretical- not l’maaseh. If it is l’maaseh, you should pose this question to a kashrus organization like the cRc Chicago. They do not have a problem telling people which products do not require certification.
The Lakewood posek quoted above has many leniencies which are not accepted by almost any of the reliable kashrus organizations.
Obaminator: GREAT POST!!
As a side point, anybody who has been involved in shiduchim understands calling somebody by their first name actually does.
When a boy and girl are going out and want the shiduch to “move on” and “take it to the next level”, the shadchan often advises the young man to call his future Kallah by her first name. And for the girl to do the same to her future Chosson.
This often helps them to take their relationship to the next level.
YES. Calling someone by their first name does mean something!!
Listen up fellow coffee drinkers!!
This has nothing to do with Rabbi Falk. All the men who have frum female workers understand why they should not be calling females by their first names. Let’s not fool ourselves.
In our society it has become normal to call females by their first names BECAUSE our society has sunk so low. It has also become “normal” for bosses to have improper relationships with their co-workers.
In our times harchokos are needed more than ever before.
I heard from Reb Moshe Aharon Stern zt”l that couples calling each others spouces by their first names is one of the most common causes for Shalom Bayis issues. When men become friendly with the other gender, and visa verso, it makes people compare others, albeit subconsciously, to their own spouse. This is not healthy.
I have heard from girls who were extremely uncomfortable with their frum male boss. I have also heard of girls who, unfortunately enjoy their relationship a little too much.
When a female gets dressed in the morning and, even if subconsciously, tries to look nice for the “people” in the office, we know there’s trouble.
If one of the Gedolim would be sitting in the office, would the men and women act the same? Would they address each other in the same manner? The SHECHINA should nor be viewed as any less.
You are all correct, in the previous generations things might have been different. They may have called each other by their first names. I don’t know. But the taivos were certainly more tame back then, And the women dressed a lot different then!!
Let’s not all fool ourselves!!
Sorry, I meant “How does it compare to a Simmons”?
once your on the sheitel topic, Does anybody know about Miriam Wolpin’s sheitels?
How do they compare to other brands like Sussman’s?
600 Kilo Bear-
I have no idea what your rant is about Coke, which kehilah here assurs it, or what it has to do with Starbucks. I always thought that the Coke syrup is the same here as in E.Y. But this is not a Coke thread.
the boss- and kollelguy_dot_com-
The website you are referring to has no backing from any Rabbonim or experts in the field of kashrus. Kashrus is quite complicated. Two guys doing research into Starbucks have no business runnng this type of website without any Rabbinic backing.
They have no problem arguing with the CRC based on their own logic. CRC did at least as much research as they did. They have experience. They have poskim (who are not extreme machmirim.)
The BIG kulos given on that site are based on a psak from a Rabbi who’s standards are not accepted by almost any other orthodox Rabbi or any kashrus organization. According to that Rabbi, one may eat Hellmans mayonnaise on Pesach. In fact, you can eat almost anything on Pesach. His Sifrei Torah were rendered posul by almost every one of the accepted Poskim of our times, here and in Eretz Yisroel.
Don’t drink off of websites who have no Vaad or Rabbi backing them. Stick to the reputable Vaadim such as CRC and others.
And by the way, enjoy your kosher coffee!!
First of all, in this case the goy for sure has no neemanus. The worker does not care about any “bad name” that might come out of how he claims he washes the dishes etc..
Second of all, according to CRC, who did moths of research on Starbucks, the Frappuccino base is not certified and has kosher sensitive ingredients. See the link I left above and here:
http://www.crcweb.org/Starbucks%20cRc%20Full%20Article%20April%202011.pdf an extensive report on Starbucks.
As is clear on the CRC’s report, they were not looking for chumros at all. They are also not a “right wing” hisachdus type of organization. Rabbi Fishbein of the CRC is one of the leading kashrus experts in the U.S.A. and heads the A.K.O.- Association of Kashrus Organizations of America. If he has a problem with this drink, so should you.
As far as your Rov, I do not know who he is, nor do I want to know who he his. However, very few Rabonim are experts in the kashrus field. They might be able to answer kashrus questions, but many of them are not up to date with the modern complications which are presented with today’s advanced technology, even in coffee shops.
I am not at all familiar with the Star-K. All i know is that they are far from leaning to chumros. They permit what many kashrus organizations do not.
If it is true, as posted earlier, that they also feel one may not drink a Frappuccino, it might be time for your “Rov” to pick up the phone and speak to some kashrus vaadim who are familiar with the situation.
You return it without the cups b/c most of them were already drunk!
I certainly do not have to buy new ones to replace those I already used. This is ligit. The thing is broken.
It’s all of the above!
Chareidi, centered, left of center, right of cenetr, Frum, MO, right of MO, left of MO, and Lubavitch!!
Whatever it takes to sell their magazine.
And that is why some people do not want their children to read it!
For the most reliable Starbucks information see http://www.crcweb.org/starbucks_intro.php
They did the most research and are the most reliable.
And by the way, a goy has no neemunus no matter how honest he seems!!
skiaddict: I don’t know what music you’ve been listening to, but…
If he would be recording those types of sounds, it would not be Yiddeshe mechanchim asking us not to listen to his music. Many international organizations would have banned it already!
I am just having trouble understanding. If it is O.K. for productions, then why would it be bad for the car or home?!?