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I know this is a little bit off topic, but I think this incident is a huge example of the prevalent attitude towards the medinah. Obviously, the medinah is not as frum as I would like it to be, and there are major issues between the religous in Eretz Yisro’el and the secular of the government. But there is a reason why there are more Jews living in Eretz Yisro’el nowadays then there were for a very long time. There’s a reason why there is more Torah in Eretz Yisro’el nowadays since possibly the fall of Beitar. There’s a reason why Eretz Yisro’el is the only place in the world where taxpayers money goes to support religious (including charedi) institutions. Aside from siyada diShmaya, much of this is because of the medinah. Obviously frum Jews must stand up for Torah values, but there is not enough hakaras hatov going around for all the good that the medinah does.
simcha613ParticipantTaxes are because the government needs funding, but citizens don’t have a say to where it goes. In America, taxes still go to the public school system and yeshivos are privately funded. American citizens can’t tell America what to do with their tax money, and demand that they support the yeshiva system also. The same thing with Eretz Yisro’el. A government needs funding to run, and they use that to support a public school system which they control. The fact that they use that money to support Yeshivos and Beis Ya’akov is a tremendous chesed that no other country does with the frum’s taxes. But just because chareidim are required to pay taxes does not give them the right to demand where it goes. If the charedim want a school that is completely free from medinah interference then the charedim should pay for their own private schools… and they still have to pay taxes!
simcha613ParticipantI’m still very confused. The fact is the medinah has different values than the chareidi world. I don’t think they can be blamed for that, they were brought up not appreciating the things that chareidim appreciate.
At the end of the day, they are supporting the school! So, obviously they are going to impose their values on their school. If the chareidim were sponsoring a school, would they run a school with conservative or reform values? Of course not! So a state is running a school with it’s own money, why shouldn’t they be allowed to run a school according to their own values?
At the end of the day they ARE supporting many yeshivos and Beis Ya’akovs’s across the country. There is a reason why there is no tuition crisis in Eretz Yisro’el as in Amercia. It’s because the charedi institutions have GOVERNMENT FUNDING. They are doing the chareidim a tremendous favor! If the chareidim cannot accept the favors that the governemnt are doing, don’t take their money!
I cannot understand how halachically you can take the governement’s money, and expect and demand them to give in to all of your wishes?
simcha613ParticipantI was under the impression that there is only one school in Emmanuel. Therefore, if it’s a publicly funded school, and there are girls who are left without a school because they don’t live up to those standards, isn’t it the medinah’s responsibility to make sure that its public schools serve the entire community? Therefore, since the Emmanuel Beis Yaakov is a public school, isn’t it the medinah’s responsibility to make sure that it serves those in the community who need it?
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